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Car Forum / Jeep / June 2005NV4500 or AX5 in an 02 tj ?
I'm trying to figure out what transmission my 02 tj ( 4.0 5spd standard ) has in it and what fluid it takes. There are no tags on the thing , it does have " NG " stamped on the side of it in several places but everything I see here and on the web seems to suggest that since it is an 02 it must have an AX 5 in it. From what I have found so far the AX 5 was in tjs up until 02 and then 03 they have NV4500's . The shifter assembly on the top of NV4500's I found pictures of look exactly like what is atop my tranny (big square plate with four bolts ) and not like the smaller round shifter assembly (or whatever it's called) on the top of all the AX transmissions I found pictures of. I bought the jeep new, the transmission in it is factory, could it have a NV4500 in it ? Anyone tell me how to tell exactly what tranny I have and what fluid goes in it ? Gear oil ? Synthetic ? Thanks for any help. Farrell Christeson Nevermind, it is an AX5 I wasn't looking at it right. Farrell Christeson > I'm trying to figure out what transmission my 02 tj ( 4.0 5spd standard ) > has in it and what fluid it takes. There are no tags on the thing , it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Farrell Christeson you mean "Never mind, it's an AX15" :-) (the AX5 is only used in the 2.5 litre 4 cylinder) Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > Nevermind, it is an AX5 I wasn't looking at it right. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > Farrell Christeson Hmm... really hate it when my ignorance shows. Twice. Thanks for pointing that out. Had them backwards. Farrell Christeson > you mean "Never mind, it's an AX15" > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> > >> > Farrell Christeson sorry, didn't mean to sound like a smart arse ! Although at the risk of doing it again, you probably meant the NV3550 which replaced the AX15 in ... emmm... around 2000 I think. The NV4500 is used in 3/4 ton Dodges and is a popular upgrade (e.g. http://www.off-road.com/jeep/reviews/yj1-nv45001.htm ) Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > Hmm... really hate it when my ignorance shows. Twice. > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >> > > >> > Farrell Christeson I didn't take it that way. I actually got the NV4500 info off some web site , I guess they ment NV3550 and right now I'll believe anything I read. I'm so inept when it comes to this stuff. The other day I started to have a garage do it for me and I told them 'twice' it was a standard transmission they told me 'twice' it would be $38.00 labor + the gasket , filter and fluid.... I didn't 'think' a standard transmission has filter , I couldn't figure out what the gasket was for, and $38.00 to unscrew a drain plug and put it back in ? I wasn't confident enough in my knowledge (or lack of) to argue the point so I decided to do it myself and then I would know if the damn thing needed a filter and a gasket. Farrell Christeson > sorry, didn't mean to sound like a smart arse ! > Although at the risk of doing it again, you probably meant the NV3550 [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >> >> > >> >> > Farrell Christeson It has the NV 3550, if I remember correctly. > I'm trying to figure out what transmission my 02 tj ( 4.0 5spd standard ) > has in it and what fluid it takes. There are no tags on the thing , it does [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Farrell Christeson It could be, but if a NV3550 looks like a NV4500 (I don't have that big square bulge on the driver side of my tranny that the NV4500 has) then it don't have . I'm pretty confident at this point that it has an AX15. I'm going to fill it with Redline MT90 whatever it is and see if it blows up. Well, that is as soon as I find some place that tells me about how much fluid it takes in ounces or pints or quarts or gallons instead of " until it runs out the fill hole " so I have some idea how much I need to order. Farrell Christeson > It has the NV 3550, if I remember correctly. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >> Farrell Christeson It'll be the New Venture 3550, using a special Mopar oil like: http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gear_oil/syncro_fluid.html The build order if still caught in your seat springs will tell you for sure. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/ > It could be, but if a NV3550 looks like a NV4500 (I don't have that big > square bulge on the driver side of my tranny that the NV4500 has) then it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Farrell Christeson it should be a nv3500 > I'm trying to figure out what transmission my 02 tj ( 4.0 5spd standard ) > has in it and what fluid it takes. There are no tags on the thing , it does [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Farrell Christeson ARGH! NV3550 , NV3500 , AX15 ... they all look alike... well, mounted up were it is under the Jeep I guess I should say it looks like all of them but after you post and went and googled for pics of the NV3550 and 3500 and the only thing that really stands out is that big square shifter assembly on the top of the transmission, that looks right. I guess all I really need to know is, can I put Redline MT90 in it ? Farrell Christeson > it should be a nv3500 > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> >> Farrell Christeson Put in enough that it comes out of the fill hole. > ARGH! NV3550 , NV3500 , AX15 ... they all look alike... well, mounted up > were it is under the Jeep I guess I should say it looks like all of them but [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >> > >> Farrell Christeson LOL... I found the specs on the 3500 / 3550 , I think I can order enough to make it do that now ! Farrell Christeson > Put in enough that it comes out of the fill hole. > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >> >> >> >> Farrell Christeson The only aftermarket fluid that I know of that meets the specs for the New Venture manual transmissions is http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gear_oil/syncro_fluid.html. The factory service manual in fact says do not use anything but. You might be OK with Redline, I think several with the NV transmissions here have used it, but you would do so at your own risk. > LOL... I found the specs on the 3500 / 3550 , I think I can order enough > to make it do that now ! [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >>> >> >>> >> Farrell Christeson It's a New Venture 3550 for the '02 six cylinder. Just use GL-3 (75W-90) but change it twice as often like when ever you forge a mud puddle: http://www.billhughes.com/lubeSchedule.pdf Check to see if your build ticket is still caught in your under seat springs. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com > I'm trying to figure out what transmission my 02 tj ( 4.0 5spd standard ) > has in it and what fluid it takes. There are no tags on the thing , it does [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Farrell Christeson |
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