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Car Forum / Jeep / August 2005

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jnbthomas@gmail.com - 23 Aug 2005 19:24 GMT
I recently did an oil change on a '93 Buick Century. I used a 5W/ 30
oil. After I was finished putting the oil in, I read on the cap " use
10W/30". Is it a problem if I use a lighter weight? Thanks.
Earle Horton - 23 Aug 2005 19:57 GMT
You are supposed to read the cap before putting oil in, but I guess you
figured that out by now.  5W30 is not optimal, but it won't make your engine
seize after ten miles.  If you change your oil every 2000 to 3000 miles, I
wouldn't worry about it.  If you change it at a year or 7000 miles, then
consider putting 10W30 in it.  What are we talking about here, ten dollars
worth of oil?

Your oil gauge or indicator light will tell you if the pressure in the oil
feed passages is too low, but that isn't your real worry.  What you have to
worry about, is the instantaneous pressure at the crankshaft bearings.  5W30
is probably good enough, unless you plan on racing the vehicle.

There is no real answer to this question.

Earle

> I recently did an oil change on a '93 Buick Century. I used a 5W/ 30
> oil. After I was finished putting the oil in, I read on the cap " use
> 10W/30". Is it a problem if I use a lighter weight? Thanks.
Bret Ludwig - 23 Aug 2005 20:18 GMT
Probably not, but if it's a 93 it probably has a lot of time (miles) on
it, so the clearances are even wider than when made. It's usually best
to put in heavier oils the older an engine gets.
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III - 23 Aug 2005 21:22 GMT
    I think you are asking for it. Especially if it's still up around a
hundred degrees, and you use the air conditioning. Just, consider it an
flush, like they did in the old days. Like you may be hearing your main
bearings knock as they refill after it sitting, now
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> I recently did an oil change on a '93 Buick Century. I used a 5W/ 30
> oil. After I was finished putting the oil in, I read on the cap " use
> 10W/30". Is it a problem if I use a lighter weight? Thanks.
Billy Ray - 23 Aug 2005 22:40 GMT
You needn't change the filter again, just the oil.

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>     I think you are asking for it. Especially if it's still up around a
> hundred degrees, and you use the air conditioning. Just, consider it an
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>> oil. After I was finished putting the oil in, I read on the cap " use
>> 10W/30". Is it a problem if I use a lighter weight? Thanks.
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III - 23 Aug 2005 23:00 GMT
Hi Bill,
    I think I'd get all those metal to metal shavings out of there,
too. The car's a '93 at twenty thousand a year it has well over two
hundred thousand miles, now the equivalent of three.
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> You needn't change the filter again, just the oil.
>
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Billy Ray - 23 Aug 2005 23:13 GMT
If he has that many miles he should consider 15W-40 or 20W-50 wouldn't you
think?

I used Shell's Rotella T 15W-40 for a long time in high mileage cars

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> Hi Bill,
>     I think I'd get all those metal to metal shavings out of there,
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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III - 23 Aug 2005 23:43 GMT
Hi Bill,
    Yes, I use Pennzoil 20/50 in my '89 Thunderbird, and '78 Bronco,
both with over three hundred thousand miles on them without have their
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> If he has that many miles he should consider 15W-40 or 20W-50 wouldn't you
> think?
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Firebat5000 - 25 Aug 2005 23:36 GMT
Thanks for all the input. Believe it or not, the car only has 70K on
it. It was a grandma's car that was only driven to church on Sunday's.
1 owner. My wife got it 2 years ago with 23K on it. It is nearing the
end of summer, so should I worry about changing it to 10W/30 or
2000-3000 Miles... It is not the cost of the oil... its the time.....
Billy Ray - 26 Aug 2005 04:51 GMT
Does the owners manual say anything about alternate oil viscosities?  I have
a vague recollection GM had gone to 5W-30 before that....

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> Thanks for all the input. Believe it or not, the car only has 70K on
> it. It was a grandma's car that was only driven to church on Sunday's.
> 1 owner. My wife got it 2 years ago with 23K on it. It is nearing the
> end of summer, so should I worry about changing it to 10W/30 or
> 2000-3000 Miles... It is not the cost of the oil... its the time.....
Jerry Bransford - 24 Aug 2005 01:12 GMT
5W-30 and 10W-30 are both the same 30 weight oil once warmed up.  In
talking to both Mobil and Shell reps a few times on the 5W vs. 10W at
startup, they have begun to change my thinking on using 5W-30 vs. using
10W-30.  I used to avoid 5W-30 thinking the 5 weight oil when the engine
was cold was too thin.  Both reps assured me that the 5 weight oil
circulates a lot faster when the engine is cold which gives better
protection at start up.  That both 5W-30 and 10W-30 become 30 weight
once warm means they're equal at that time. :)

>      I think you are asking for it. Especially if it's still up around a
> hundred degrees, and you use the air conditioning. Just, consider it an
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>>oil. After I was finished putting the oil in, I read on the cap " use
>>10W/30". Is it a problem if I use a lighter weight? Thanks.

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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III - 24 Aug 2005 01:48 GMT
    Do you use 5W/30? http://www.billhughes.com/lubeSchedule.pdf It's
not recommended for temperatures above freezing.
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> 5W-30 and 10W-30 are both the same 30 weight oil once warmed up.  In
> talking to both Mobil and Shell reps a few times on the 5W vs. 10W at
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> protection at start up.  That both 5W-30 and 10W-30 become 30 weight
> once warm means they're equal at that time. :)
Rod Gramlich - 29 Aug 2005 22:33 GMT
The necessity to go to a 5W-X isn't even fathonable until you own an AMC 258
in Northern Canada   LMARO !!!!

> 5W-30 and 10W-30 are both the same 30 weight oil once warmed up.  In
> talking to both Mobil and Shell reps a few times on the 5W vs. 10W at
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> >>oil. After I was finished putting the oil in, I read on the cap " use
> >>10W/30". Is it a problem if I use a lighter weight? Thanks.
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III - 30 Aug 2005 02:42 GMT
    That would be in the Great White North. ;-)
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> The necessity to go to a 5W-X isn't even fathonable until you own an AMC 258
> in Northern Canada   LMARO !!!!
J Strickland - 24 Aug 2005 01:04 GMT
No, it'll leak out faster than the thicker oil, that's a downside. But it'll
get into the tight places -- if there are any left -- easier in winter,
that's an upside.

>I recently did an oil change on a '93 Buick Century. I used a 5W/ 30
> oil. After I was finished putting the oil in, I read on the cap " use
> 10W/30". Is it a problem if I use a lighter weight? Thanks.
 
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