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Car Forum / Jeep / August 2005

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Jeep 4.0 litre oil pressure

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Danny - 27 Aug 2005 23:17 GMT
My 1997 Cherokee 4l (with 54k on the clock) started to have lower oil
pressure when hot.  Always greater than 3 bar when cold, but can drop
to 1 bar when hot.  Oil was clean and less than 4k old but I changed
the oil and filter (or the local garage did), but with no change.
Still low when hot, and often doesn't quite get to 3 bars at cruising
speed when hot either.  I don't know the oil used, but it was Castrol,
and probably a 10W40.  I would normally blame thinning or old oil, but
this is unlikely to be the case.  I'm a careful driver, never over
revving when cold, and treating it reasonably gently, especially when
towing.

Is the failing pressure sender fault as often posted here likely to be
a problem, or is there another likely other source?

Car has full service history and one previous owner who I've spoken
to.  He reports that he always had it serviced regularly whether the
mileage was due a service or not, hence the book is stamped to 78k
with only 53k when I bought it.

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Bret Ludwig - 27 Aug 2005 23:28 GMT
The pressure sender certainly can be removed and tested by a cal
fixture, which is not something automotive shops have, though it's
easily built. You need an air source, a valve and a gauge-your air
conditioning manifold gauge set will work OK. Just need the fitting.

If the pressure sender is ok, you probably have an oil pump or
pressure relief issue.
Danny - 28 Aug 2005 00:01 GMT
>  The pressure sender certainly can be removed and tested by a cal
> fixture, which is not something automotive shops have, though it's
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>  If the pressure sender is ok, you probably have an oil pump or
> pressure relief issue.

Thanks.  I'd probably just test by substitution - I don't imagine a
sender to be expensive.

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Bret Ludwig - 28 Aug 2005 01:01 GMT
Stateside no, but over there it might well be.
Drifter - 28 Aug 2005 05:54 GMT
> Stateside no, but over there it might well be.

I guess it depends on your definition of expensive.  It ran me $65 for
one in Washington DC (ugh).  Seemed like a lot for a damn pressure
sensor.  Of course compared to a Neutral Safety Switch ($400) it does
seem downright cheap (double ugh).

And before people barrage me... No I didn't spend $400 on a new NSS, I
disassembled mine and rebuilt it for about $3.00 and it's worked fine
since. <grin>

Drifter
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Snow - 28 Aug 2005 21:01 GMT
> And before people barrage me... No I didn't spend $400 on a new NSS, I
> disassembled mine and rebuilt it for about $3.00 and it's worked fine
> since. <grin>

I just rewired the harness, since I'm the only one who drives the XJ, I'm
not worried about it right now, one of these days I will get to around to
fixing it.

Snow
Jo Bo - 27 Aug 2005 23:36 GMT
Could be your oil filter. Fram filters are reported to cause this problem.
Purolater filters are supposed to be good.

JoBo

> My 1997 Cherokee 4l (with 54k on the clock) started to have lower oil
> pressure when hot.  Always greater than 3 bar when cold, but can drop to 1
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> was due a service or not, hence the book is stamped to 78k with only 53k
> when I bought it.
Danny - 28 Aug 2005 00:01 GMT
> Could be your oil filter. Fram filters are reported to cause this problem.
> Purolater filters are supposed to be good.

Thanks, I'll check the filter.  If I get a genuine filter can I change
it with the oil int he vehicle still...Only had new oil a couple of
weeks ago...

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THOR - 31 Aug 2005 14:06 GMT
You Sure can, since it sits above the oil pan.
" can I change
: it with the oil int he vehicle still...Only had new oil a couple of
: weeks ago...
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