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Car Forum / Jeep / October 2005

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Tony - 10 Oct 2005 00:28 GMT
I have an 87 YJ with an 258 six in it and today I was backing out of the
driveway and it stalled...tried to restart..fired for a couple of seconds
then quit again...now it wont start at all....rolls over very well
....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
first...thanks in advance
Billy Ray - 10 Oct 2005 01:37 GMT
crank sensor

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>I have an 87 YJ with an 258 six in it and today I was backing out of the
>driveway and it stalled...tried to restart..fired for a couple of seconds
>then quit again...now it wont start at all....rolls over very well
>....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
>first...thanks in advance
Patrick Ô¿Ô - 10 Oct 2005 02:00 GMT
is everyones crank sensor going out at the same time?

Patrick
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> crank sensor
>
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>>....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
>>first...thanks in advance
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III - 10 Oct 2005 02:40 GMT
    A very common problem for the early XJs, however the Poster's is a
carburated YJ. Most likely a magnetic pickup or brain box.
       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com http://www.billhughes.com/

> is everyones crank sensor going out at the same time?
>
> Patrick
Mike Romain - 10 Oct 2005 14:51 GMT
The OP doesn't have that type of engine.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> is everyones crank sensor going out at the same time?
>
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> >>....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
> >>first...thanks in advance
DougW - 10 Oct 2005 01:50 GMT
Tony did pass the time by typing:
> I have an 87 YJ with an 258 six in it and today I was backing out of the
> driveway and it stalled...tried to restart..fired for a couple of seconds
> then quit again...now it wont start at all....rolls over very well
> ....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
> first...thanks in advance

Several things, is it getting spark?
Also unplug/replug in the CPS sensor.

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Tomes - 10 Oct 2005 03:52 GMT
I used to have an 87 YJ with the 258 and this happened to me.  For me it
would mysteriously quit, and when it occurred it was right after it started
or it would not start.  Cranked fine.  If I walked away it might or might
not decide to be OK again.  I replaced the ignition control module and it
never happened again.  The ICM is a silver colored flat box that is located
in the wheel well (driver's side, in with the wheel, if I am remembering
right) of all places.  I followed the wire to find it.  6 years ago it cost
about $50US.  It just unbolts and unplugs, easy as cake, once you find it.
Hope this might help,
Tomes

> I have an 87 YJ with an 258 six in it and today I was backing out of the
> driveway and it stalled...tried to restart..fired for a couple of seconds
> then quit again...now it wont start at all....rolls over very well
> ....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
> first...thanks in advance
bllsht - 10 Oct 2005 07:05 GMT
Don't waste your time looking for the crank sensor (cps).  It doesn't have one.
Most likely a bad ignition module.

>I have an 87 YJ with an 258 six in it and today I was backing out of the
>driveway and it stalled...tried to restart..fired for a couple of seconds
>then quit again...now it wont start at all....rolls over very well
>....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
>first...thanks in advance
Mike Romain - 10 Oct 2005 14:50 GMT
That sounds like either the ignition module or body ground strap have
gone bad to me.  Because you were in reverse, I would look to the ground
first.  That is a mesh cable from the engine head to the firewall.  I
test them by running a booster cable from the battery negative to the
firewall and see if they then run.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> I have an 87 YJ with an 258 six in it and today I was backing out of the
> driveway and it stalled...tried to restart..fired for a couple of seconds
> then quit again...now it wont start at all....rolls over very well
> ....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
> first...thanks in advance
Tony - 10 Oct 2005 20:51 GMT
Tried both things...new module and ground strap still nothing...could it be
the coil?

> That sounds like either the ignition module or body ground strap have
> gone bad to me.  Because you were in reverse, I would look to the ground
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>> ....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
>> first...thanks in advance
Mike Romain - 10 Oct 2005 22:10 GMT
Or the distributor pickup.  It should have between 400 to 800 ohms on
the orange and purple wires.

The coil primary circuit should have 1.13-1.23 ohms cold and 7700-9300
ohms on the secondary.

Mike

> Tried both things...new module and ground strap still nothing...could it be
> the coil?
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> >> ....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
> >> first...thanks in advance
DougW - 10 Oct 2005 22:16 GMT
Mike Romain did pass the time by typing:
> Or the distributor pickup.  It should have between 400 to 800 ohms on
> the orange and purple wires.
>
> The coil primary circuit should have 1.13-1.23 ohms cold and 7700-9300
> ohms on the secondary.

Ya know, the odd thing about measuring coils..  I've tested at least five
that measure fine but were actually dead.  They all had a high voltage break
down and arced out inside.  Measure them at 9V with a DMM and they look fine.

That's why I got one of these thingies.
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/THE-404.html

>> Tried both things...new module and ground strap still nothing...could it be
>> the coil?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>>> ....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
>>>> first...thanks in advance
philthy - 10 Oct 2005 22:47 GMT
check all the fuses there is a 10 amper under the dash the runs the ingition

> Or the distributor pickup.  It should have between 400 to 800 ohms on
> the orange and purple wires.
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> > >> ....getting fuel...seems to be no fire...any ideas what to check
> > >> first...thanks in advance
 
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