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Car Forum / Jeep / November 2005

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94 YJ Clutch fluid leaking

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Jimbo - 29 Nov 2005 02:26 GMT
Hello all
My 94 YJ 2.5, 5spd is leaking clutch fluid and would like to draw upon the
experience here. The 94 YJ has a sealed system and requires the replacement
of the clutch master/slave cylinder and hydraulic throw out bearing which is
all in one according to Chilton's. Since it is a sealed system, I assume if
I am leaking clutch fluid then I would need to replace this system. Is this
correct? I have been unable to find this part online; does anybody have a
favorite online parts house? I am in Hawaii and parts are ridiculously high.
I assume I should replace the clutch and pressure plate while the
transmission and t-case are removed. Is this correct and are there any other
components that should be replaced at this time? I appreciate any help you
can give me I intend to tackle this on an upcoming weekend. Thanks for your
time

r/

Jim
Will Honea - 29 Nov 2005 04:07 GMT
I thought that 94 was the year they went to the external slave for
both the I6 and the 4-banger but that wouldn't be my first
misinformation <g> .  With the 4.0, you still have the "sealed" system
- master and slave - but the slave is external to the bell housing and
can be changed without pulling the tranny.  Advanced Auto for one
carries the separate master and slave cylinders.  There is a plactic
tube between the two cylinders and the fittings are a push fit with a
roll pin to lock the tube in place.  It's simple to replace either one
or both.  The dealer sells a "set" which is pre-filled and includes
the tube for (last I heard) $225 - $250.  The Advanced Auto cost for
both the master and the slave was about $140.  Expensive little
buggers. The setup I'm running came off a '94 YJ, so the 4.0L version
was definitely the external set.

It's easy enough to tell which you have (internal or external).  One
the left rear of the bell housing, the internal version has a hose and
a bleed nipple while the external version has a cylinder about 4
inches long X 1 inch diameter on the outside.

> Hello all
> My 94 YJ 2.5, 5spd is leaking clutch fluid and would like to draw upon the
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>
> Jim

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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III - 29 Nov 2005 05:10 GMT
Hi Jim,
    The fluid used in the clutch hydraulics is brake fluid. Like Will
said you lucked out for your year, '94 is external, and master and slave
are sold separate at partsamerica.com:
http://www.billhughes.com/temp/94TJ4cylMasterSlave.jpg
       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com

Jumbo wrote:

> Hello all
> My 94 YJ 2.5, 5spd is leaking clutch fluid and would like to draw upon the
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>
> Jim
Earle Horton - 29 Nov 2005 08:03 GMT
This could have been a late or mid-model-year change.  The best thing is to
crawl under the vehicle and verify which system he has, before trying to
order parts.  I would replace both master and slave, so as to get another
ten years out of the system.  In humid Hawaii, it wouldn't hurt to flush the
system periodically, to postpone the inevitable.

Earle

> Hi Jim,
>      The fluid used in the clutch hydraulics is brake fluid. Like Will
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> >
> > Jim
Jimbo - 29 Nov 2005 21:47 GMT
The leak is coming from the front of the bellhousing, from within the bell
housing. I suspect the hydraulic throw-out bearing but while researching a
solution in Chilton's, a simple statement is all that is there "refer to
master cylinder removal and installation procedure outlined earlier....." .
Removal and installation is just 4 lines of instruction basically unbolt,
replace. Sounds easy but would replacing this system fix the leak? I have
pictures but I do not know how to link them to the group. Again I really
appreciate all of you folks help.
r/
Jimbo
> This could have been a late or mid-model-year change.  The best thing is
> to
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>> > Jim
Earle Horton - 29 Nov 2005 22:28 GMT
Replacing the slave would fix the leak.  You should replace the master at
the same time, for two reasons.  One, it is likely to be as worn as the
slave, and destined to fail soon too.  Two, the fluid that is in the master
right now is contaminated and will get into the slave, damaging it, unless
you flush it real well.  What I am wondering about, is whether you actually
have the new easy-to-remove slave or the old hard-to-remove part.  If you
can indeed remove the part without disassembling the clutch housing, then
that answers my question.

Earle

> The leak is coming from the front of the bellhousing, from within the bell
> housing. I suspect the hydraulic throw-out bearing but while researching a
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> >> > Jim
Jimbo - 29 Nov 2005 23:58 GMT
Earle
I emailed you a pic of the slave cylinder to see if it matched yours. If it
is, I'll replace the master and slave cylinders. It seems impossible to be
that easy therefore I am really happy. Thanks for your help
r/
Jimbo

> Replacing the slave would fix the leak.  You should replace the master at
> the same time, for two reasons.  One, it is likely to be as worn as the
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>> >> > Jim
L.W.(ßill) Hughes III - 30 Nov 2005 01:05 GMT
   Yes, the year before it was sitting on your input shaft:
http://www.billhughes.com/YJslave.jpg
       God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com

> Earle
> I emailed you a pic of the slave cylinder to see if it matched yours. If it
> is, I'll replace the master and slave cylinders. It seems impossible to be
> that easy therefore I am really happy. Thanks for your help
> r/
> Jimbo
Earle Horton - 30 Nov 2005 08:14 GMT
Well I can't go out to the Jeep to verify for sure, but from the picture he
sent me, he seems to have the external one.

Earle

>     Yes, the year before it was sitting on your input shaft:
> http://www.billhughes.com/YJslave.jpg
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> > r/
> > Jimbo
 
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