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Car Forum / Kia Cars / September 2006

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Warning Lights for Charging System & Brake

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CMM - 29 Aug 2006 15:44 GMT
As of late, my battery has being going dead while I'm driving. In an
effort to track down the problem (battery or charging system), I
starting paying closer attention to the Charging System warning light
in the instrument cluster only to realize that it does not work. With
the key on but before starting, neither it nor the Brake warning light
illuminate.

The Oil Pressure warning light works fine. I swapped bulbs around and
found no problem with them. I checked fuses but am unsure which one
applies.

Any thoughts on what I need to do to fix this (or what fuse I
specifically need to examine)?

-- Christian
2002 Kia Sedona EX 3.5L
halatos@gmail.com - 30 Aug 2006 03:54 GMT
> As of late, my battery has being going dead while I'm driving. In an
> effort to track down the problem (battery or charging system), I
> starting paying closer attention to the Charging System warning light
> in the instrument cluster only to realize that it does not work. With
> the key on but before starting, neither it nor the Brake warning light
> illuminate.

Typically a problem like this is indicative of a failed alternator.
With the engine running what does a voltmeter read at the battery
terminals? Anything less than 12.6 volts would mean your charging
system is not working.

Chris
CMM - 30 Aug 2006 16:47 GMT
>Typically a problem like this is indicative of a failed alternator.
>With the engine running what does a voltmeter read at the battery
>terminals? Anything less than 12.6 volts would mean your charging
>system is not working.

Hey Chris,

I think you're right. I'm going to check the voltage tonight. This
would account for the battery drain but does it explain the
non-functioning warning  lights?

-- Christian
halatos@gmail.com - 30 Aug 2006 17:04 GMT
> Hey Chris,
>
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>
> -- Christian

If you confirmed the bulb is good then what you probably have is a
failed voltage regulator. They can go bad in such a way as to put a
drain on the battery even with the car off.

Chris
CMM - 31 Aug 2006 14:46 GMT
>If you confirmed the bulb is good then what you probably have is a
>failed voltage regulator. They can go bad in such a way as to put a
>drain on the battery even with the car off.
>
>Chris

Is the voltage regulator integrated into the alternator or is it a
separate component and can it be tested?

Should I just replace the entire alternator?

I tested across battery posts with the car running and found 11.5V so
there's definitely no charge going in.

-- Christian
Spanner - 30 Aug 2006 21:54 GMT
> As of late, my battery has being going dead while I'm driving. In an
> effort to track down the problem (battery or charging system), I
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> -- Christian
> 2002 Kia Sedona EX 3.5L
Hello
I looked up the connection to Brake & Ign lights. Both are routed through
Connector block 'C' .  pin 3 is Brake warning light, and pin 4 is Ignition
light.
Gordon
CMM - 31 Aug 2006 14:47 GMT
>Hello
>I looked up the connection to Brake & Ign lights. Both are routed through
>Connector block 'C' .  pin 3 is Brake warning light, and pin 4 is Ignition
>light.
>Gordon

Thanks, Gordon. Any idea where the fuse for these is? I just need to
take a look and either rule it out or replace it.

-- Christian
Spanner - 31 Aug 2006 18:56 GMT
>>Hello
>>I looked up the connection to Brake & Ign lights. Both are routed through
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -- Christian

Hello
There doesn't appear to be any individual fuses for these panel indications,
these two and others are all connected to common A7+, but there is a diode
D2 across term'ls C3 & C4, if this goes faulty, it could prevent both lights
operating.  I think!
Gordon
CMM - 07 Sep 2006 15:29 GMT
>>>Hello
>>>I looked up the connection to Brake & Ign lights. Both are routed through
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>D2 across term'ls C3 & C4, if this goes faulty, it could prevent both lights
>operating.  I think!

I appreciate the info. If I get this fixed, I'll let you know.

-- Christian

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