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Car Forum / Kia Cars / December 2006

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2001 Kia Rio Starting Issues

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Bernie - 05 Dec 2006 01:26 GMT
My reliable '01 Kia Rio, has 114,000 miles. I have maintained it very
well since buying it with 15,000 miles in '02. In the past few months I
have had problems starting the car. Often this occurs after driving
great distances though sometimes it will occur just after I fill the
tank. Sometimes it will start right up then I will drive 100 yards and
it will die but it always starts up eventually. It might take a few
cranks or10-minutes of sporadic cranks but it has always started and I
won't have the problem again for a day, or a week, or if I am lucky, a
month. This problem comes and goes. I have had it looked at by two
reliable mechanics who are close friends of mine and neither could
figure it out. They gave it a tune-up, tried to reenact the problem in
the shop by running the car and trying to start it, etc. to no avail.
Since the car would always start I decided to just keep driving it. I
haven't had this problem for a month or so but today, it died about a
hundred yards from my house. I sat with the car trying to start it
every minute or so but after 20 minutes I realized it was a lost cause.
It was the first cold day of the season (30's F). The oil level was
fine and color was ok. I checked the coolant and it was empty! Could
this be a gasket/radiator issue? I also noticed some other people
having similar issues and a loose starter connection or timing belt
could be to blame. Is today's issue different from the other issue or
is this the culmination of the one underlying problem. I know very
little about cars besides turn the key and drive so forgive my
ignorance. I realize I run the car hard and have got a lot of use out
of the car, so if it is a loss I definitely got my money's worth but I
am hoping it is fixable. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Bernie - 05 Dec 2006 02:02 GMT
I went back to check on the car and there was some coolant so that
cancels that aspect out. I will have it towed to my mechanic but I'd
like to have some suggestions for areas to check. Any suggestions are
appreciated. Thanks.

> My reliable '01 Kia Rio, has 114,000 miles. I have maintained it very
> well since buying it with 15,000 miles in '02. In the past few months I
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> of the car, so if it is a loss I definitely got my money's worth but I
> am hoping it is fixable. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Phil - 05 Dec 2006 05:53 GMT
> My reliable '01 Kia Rio, has 114,000 miles. I have maintained it very
> well since buying it with 15,000 miles in '02. In the past few months I
> have had problems starting the car. Often this occurs after driving
> great distances though sometimes it will occur just after I fill the
> tank. Sometimes it will start right up then I will drive 100 yards and

May seem a little basic but a loose gas cap will cause a lot of problems,
check the cap seal/ gasket also.
Bernie - 07 Dec 2006 04:15 GMT
OK. The car started today. The weather is warmer. Could that have
played a factor? Still looking for answers...

> > My reliable '01 Kia Rio, has 114,000 miles. I have maintained it very
> > well since buying it with 15,000 miles in '02. In the past few months I
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>  May seem a little basic but a loose gas cap will cause a lot of problems,
> check the cap seal/ gasket also.
steve@bankstreetkia.com - 16 Dec 2006 20:24 GMT
The problem you are having sounds very similar to to the symptoms
caused by a clogged CCV.  The CCV is a charcol filter at the rear of
the car near the gas tank, this filter could be clogged or frozen if
the environmental temp allows for it.  Also, if the fuel pump is
getting an incorrect voltage reference then the pump may not be
working.  We have also seen a loose connection at the bottom of the
fuse box located under the hood on the driver's side.  Worst case it
may be corrosion between the fuse box layers.  .....Good luck I hope
one of these helps.

> OK. The car started today. The weather is warmer. Could that have
> played a factor? Still looking for answers...
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> >  May seem a little basic but a loose gas cap will cause a lot of problems,
> > check the cap seal/ gasket also.
 
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