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Car Forum / Kia Cars / February 2004

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Kia Amanti vs. Mazda Amati ?

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aniram - 04 Feb 2004 02:19 GMT
Anyone ever remember that mazda once planned to introduce new luxury
line called Amati ? I recall that the plan was dropped.
This was the time when Honda introduced Acura, Toyota with Lexus, and
Nissan with Infiniti lines.
Was this correct or am I imagining things?... It was Amati or
something that sounds like that.
I wonder if Mazda is still planning with the luxury line now.
xxx - 04 Feb 2004 14:24 GMT
> Anyone ever remember that mazda once planned to introduce new luxury
> line called Amati ? I recall that the plan was dropped.
> I wonder if Mazda is still planning with the luxury line now.

The Millenia was the Amati car. Mazda decided it was more feasible just to
introduce it as a Mazda. Mazda's luxury aspirations went away when Ford
completely took over.
aniram - 05 Feb 2004 01:56 GMT
Did Ford actually take over Mazda 100% ?
If I recall, Ford only owns about 25% (or was it 40%) of Mazda.
However, I noticed recently that they put Mazda under Ford flagship
(just like Volvo, Jaguar, etc).
When did Ford actually acquire 100% of Mazda ?

> > Anyone ever remember that mazda once planned to introduce new luxury
> > line called Amati ? I recall that the plan was dropped.
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> introduce it as a Mazda. Mazda's luxury aspirations went away when Ford
> completely took over.
Doug1up - 18 Feb 2004 02:49 GMT
>Mazda's luxury aspirations went away when Ford
>completely took over.

Actually I read their luxury aspirations went away because Mazda wasn't doing
so hot back then and they believed the new Amati line was more than they could
handle.  That and stiff competition from Acura, Lexus, Infiniti.
Geoff Miller - 04 Feb 2004 22:59 GMT
> Anyone ever remember that mazda once planned to introduce
> new luxury line called Amati ? I recall that the plan was
> dropped.

Yeah.  The car that was to be the first Amati model ended up
being sold as the Mazda Millenia.  It had a "Miller Cycle"
engine, whatever that was.  I seem to recall that it had
something to do with overlapping spark timing or something
like that, nothing very radical.

Geoff

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