Here is a WEB site that sells shop Manuals for cars
several KIA Owners have expressed the desire to
have shop manuals for their cars.Some are listed
on this site at:
http://www.books4cars.com/result1.asp?findmake=Kia&imageField.x=109&imageField.y
=57&offset=50
It is interesting to note that they are as expensive as
for a Ferrai.
It looks like KIA is more intersted in screwing their car owners
than anything else.
hyundaitech - 19 May 2004 22:30 GMT
The Kia shop manuals on your page were $84.95 to $129.95. I took a small
sample of other makes including American, German, and Japanese cars. The
range was (gasp!) $69.95 to $129.95.
I really fail to see how Kia is screwing anyone here. Actually, these
books are available directly from the publisher, who sets their price.
The site mentioned sells manuals for all types of cars at whatever prices
they want. And no matter how (in)expensive the car is, the book is still
about the same price to publish.
Hal - 21 May 2004 18:31 GMT
> I really fail to see how Kia is screwing anyone here. Actually, these
> books are available directly from the publisher, who sets their price.
> The site mentioned sells manuals for all types of cars at whatever prices
> they want. And no matter how (in)expensive the car is, the book is still
> about the same price to publish.
The only thing screwed is some of the information contained in the
books. On the 1997 sephia service manual, under the timing belt
replacement section it says to set the cams and crank to TDC, install
the belt, and then loosen the bolt on the tensioner to allow it to
tension the belt. It then proceeds to tell you to button everything up
because you're done. Doing it this way is guaranteed to leave you with
a belt that will jump teeth.
Later in the same section of the book under cylinder head replacement,
it says to install the belt, rotate 1 5/6 turns to the tension set
mark, and then loosen the bolt in the tensioner pulley to tension the
belt and tighten to 35 ft/lbs. This is the correct way to do it.
The sephia book also says to use 'silicone sealant' between the #5
camshaft bearing cap and the head. Using silicone here will change the
oil clearance in my opinion, what you are supposed to use here is a
THIN flange sealant such as hylomar. Silicone is for the corners of
the caps and is intended to seal up the valve cover, not the cap to
the head.
I could go on and on..the book is good in some respects and just plain
sucks in others. I'm not sure if similar problems exist for the
service manuals on other types of cars or not.
Chris
pheasant - 20 May 2004 12:42 GMT
> Here is a WEB site that sells shop Manuals for cars
> several KIA Owners have expressed the desire to
> have shop manuals for their cars.Some are listed
> on this site at:
http://www.books4cars.com/result1.asp?findmake=Kia&imageField.x=109&imageField.y
=57&offset=50
> It is interesting to note that they are as expensive as
> for a Ferrai.
>
> It looks like KIA is more intersted in screwing their car owners
> than anything else.
Ditto hyundaitech's sentiments. It ain't Kia tht sets the price, it's the
publisher. DOH!!!!
When you look at flat rates of 75+ dollars per hour, I fail to see how a
manual for 125 buck is ripping you off. If you can do a 2 hour job, it's
paid for. Plus if you're a proficient wrench spinner, you can oft beat the
flat rate, how do you think a good mechanic (tech) makes above and beyond
their salary?
PLUS with a 5 year/60k unlimited and 10/100 powertrain, know it'll be pretty
much oil changing for me until the year 2012.
I'm again tickled pink the way our Sedonda runs once I convinced the shop it
needed something fixed they said it didn't.
Great value for the money. Book or vehicle.
Mark
Jamie Aycock - 20 May 2004 13:40 GMT
Why not go to http://www.kiatechinfo.com/logon.aspx?url=%2fDefault.aspx%3f
and use the free online shop manuals?
Jamie
> Here is a WEB site that sells shop Manuals for cars
> several KIA Owners have expressed the desire to
> have shop manuals for their cars.Some are listed
> on this site at:
http://www.books4cars.com/result1.asp?findmake=Kia&imageField.x=109&imageField.y
=57&offset=50
> It is interesting to note that they are as expensive as
> for a Ferrai.
>
> It looks like KIA is more intersted in screwing their car owners
> than anything else.
Nate - 24 May 2004 02:12 GMT
Hey guys! I just bought something off e-bay. It's a complete manual on a
CD. I bought it for like $20 or something. It has complete graphs, parts,
instructions, etc. Definitely worth checking out. Just do a search for the
type of manual you want. Hope this helps. Later.

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> Here is a WEB site that sells shop Manuals for cars
> several KIA Owners have expressed the desire to
> have shop manuals for their cars.Some are listed
> on this site at:
http://www.books4cars.com/result1.asp?findmake=Kia&imageField.x=109&imageField.y
=57&offset=50
> It is interesting to note that they are as expensive as
> for a Ferrai.
>
> It looks like KIA is more intersted in screwing their car owners
> than anything else.