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Car Forum / Kia Cars / October 2004

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Kia Rio air bag deployment

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E.A. Sloan - 17 Oct 2004 21:41 GMT
Hello all:

Can anyone tell me, "at what minimum speed should the air bag(s) deploy in a
front end accident in the 2002 Kia Rio?"  Does the owner's manual provide
any insight into this question?

I am a paralegal student researching product liability cases and I'm in need
of this information.  I thought I'd try this group before I call around to
the dealers, who are not really willing to give out information if you're
not buying a car.

Thanks in advance for any help that can be provided.

Eddie
Jonathan Race - 18 Oct 2004 00:28 GMT
An easier question to ask than it is to answer.

As with airbags in all vehicles, deployment criteria is not entirely based
on one parameter, but rather a dynamic combination of several.  For example,
what would make an airbag deploy in one vehicle going 25mph during an
accident and not deploy in an identical vehicle going 25mph in another
accident?

Here are just a few of the parameters:
Overall rate of decelaration.
Duration of decelaration.
Angle of impact.
Outside forces (speed of the other vehicle in a head-on collision, for
example)
Some measure the degree of braking before the impact.
Some may take into account the weight of the person and perhaps the
position/proximity of the seat to the steering wheel/dash.
Some vehicles have higher thresholds (for example, 4 wheel drive trucks,
which are expected to be used on rough terrain).
Some vehicles have lower thresholds (for example, light-weight sub compact
cars, with low mass and small passenger compartments).

Anyone who gives you a fixed figure for any vehicle (like 30mph) is just
blowing smoke at you unless they also tell you the exact parameters of the
incident as well (like "head-on collision against an immovable wall at
exactly 90 degrees impact angle with a 150lbs driver who is restrained and
has the seat all the way back and didn't apply his brakes).  Even changing
the angle of impact by only a few degrees at exactly the same speed can make
a world of difference.

In 20 years on the job including 16 years at my current department, I have
heard a great many people say they couldn't understand why the airbag did
(or didn't) go off in their accident.  Funny thing is they were all alive
and well to be able to ask that question.  The very few who were involved in
accidents where the airbag didn't help were situations where nothing would
have helped (children in reverse-facing car seat are a different story,
however).

Every time airbags are mentioned on any newsgroup it usually starts a
(sometimes heated) discussion.

Cheers - Jonathan
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Lieutenant, EMS Supervisor
Orange County (FL) Fire Rescue Department

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E.A. Sloan - 20 Oct 2004 00:57 GMT
Hello Jonathan:

Thanks for your very informative response.  You could have easily stated
your first sentence about the question being easier asked than answered, but
thankfully you went much further.  Based on your response, I'm going to
bypass this deployment issue and focus on other similarly important aspects
of the investigation I'm conducting.

I also was in the fire/rescue field for ten years.  I was a Volunteer
Fireman, Fire Marshall, and Fire Code Enforcement Office in Montgomery
County, PA between 1984-1994.  I then went on to work for the University of
Penn Health System as their Life Safety Coordinator.  Over the years, I have
taught many fire related programs as a way of passing along all of the
knowledge I have been fortunate enough to accumulate over the years.  I was
glad to see that you passed along some of your technical knowledge to
someone who had an immediate need to better understand a particular safety
issue.

Thanks again for the insight.  Although it didn't give me the simple numeric
answer that I was hoping for, it did open my eyes to the big picture for
future reference.

E.A. Sloan
Paralegal Student/Intern

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