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Car Forum / Kia Cars / July 2006

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60K Maintenance - Timing Belt

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PerfectReign - 15 Jun 2006 17:54 GMT
I was looking in my manual for the 60K maintenance items I'll need to do.
(I just rolled past 60K this week.) I noticed that the timing belt says to
replace - except in California. We only have to inspect it and are
suggested to replace it.

Interesting. I wonder why that is.

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CMM - 15 Jun 2006 18:17 GMT
>I was looking in my manual for the 60K maintenance items I'll need to do.
>(I just rolled past 60K this week.) I noticed that the timing belt says to
>replace - except in California. We only have to inspect it and are
>suggested to replace it.
>
>Interesting. I wonder why that is.

That is odd. Maybe it's sturdier in CA than in the other States and
parts of the world...

-- Christian
chrome - 16 Jun 2006 01:44 GMT
>>I was looking in my manual for the 60K maintenance items I'll need to do.
>>(I just rolled past 60K this week.) I noticed that the timing belt says to
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>
> -- Christian

Low emissions belts, last longer by law.
Rev. Tom Wenndt - 16 Jun 2006 02:14 GMT
"Chrome," in a response about why replacing the timing belt is not required
in California said:  "Low emissions belts, last longer by law." ......

That may be part of it, but I also know that the California Attorney
General's office got deluged with complaints in the early days of timing
belts, when companies (especially Honda) started making them part of
required maintenance.

Since maintenance used to involve oil, plugs, fluids (even points and
condenser years back), all of which were reasonably priced, this was worse
than sticker shock.  No matter what the car was (and is), replacing it is
very expensive and time consuming.

So California actually passed a law banning automakers from REQUIRING timing
belt replacement.

Nice idea, but the timing belts still break, even in California.  What I am
told is that what some of the dealers are now doing is, if they break
during, say a 100,000 mile warranty, after 60,000 but before 100,000, they
will look for proof that you had the belt inspected.

Say what you will.  Until a car gives a relatively reliable feel of how long
it can go between timing belts, (that is several years of the same motor
showing many mechanics about how long it goes), best stick with the
maintenance schedule, or close to it.

Hope this helps.

Tom Wenndt
helix - 23 Jun 2006 20:22 GMT
I changed mine of both Sportages, 2000 and 2001 at 60k. the belt, rollers
and water pump were under $100 total. took about 4 hours once you figured
out how to get the alternator barcket off (and back on). did plugs, fuel
filter, and a lower hose and valve cover gaskets while I had it all apart.
I actually bought the parts from a guy on eBay who has and ebay store
called the Parts Dinosoar. really helpful, nice fellow. other thing you
should inspect is the EGR valve and the onnector attached to it. the pins
corrode sometimes if the rubber cover has been moved or not locked on.
pm4hire@excite.com - 23 Jun 2006 21:01 GMT
I changed my timing belt on a 2K Accent
@ 60K.  This car now has 94K and running
great, will I need to change the timing belt
again @ 120K?

Tom
Kevin - 24 Jun 2006 02:55 GMT
Could be worse.  Optima needs the timing belt changed at 45,000.
That was a surprise.

>I changed my timing belt on a 2K Accent
> @ 60K.  This car now has 94K and running
> great, will I need to change the timing belt
> again @ 120K?
>
> Tom
badaveil - 24 Jun 2006 15:03 GMT
Hi

I visited my regular KIA mechanic and whilst he acknowledge what the
manual mentions, there have already 3 cases of timing belt slipage even
before it hit 70K at his workshop. Suprising but what to do.

> I was looking in my manual for the 60K maintenance items I'll need to do.
> (I just rolled past 60K this week.) I noticed that the timing belt says to
> replace - except in California. We only have to inspect it and are
> suggested to replace it.
>
> Interesting. I wonder why that is.
helix - 27 Jul 2006 13:44 GMT
it's your proximity to an earth quake zone. They figure sooner or later you
won't make it, so they are off the hook. Or maybe the California attitude.
Hey Dude, my engine just disintigrated, That cool or what? In new york we
change them at 60k because we are all so uptight, we are waiting for
something to go wrong, so we can blame the government and sue everybody.
PerfectReign - 28 Jul 2006 03:19 GMT
> it's your proximity to an earth quake zone. They figure sooner or later you
> won't make it, so they are off the hook. Or maybe the California attitude.
> Hey Dude, my engine just disintigrated, That cool or what? In new york we
> change them at 60k because we are all so uptight, we are waiting for
> something to go wrong, so we can blame the government and sue everybody.

ROTFLMAO!!

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