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Bob Hobden - 18 Apr 2006 15:52 GMT

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18042006/344/summer-fuel-prices-set-spiral.html

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Dom J - 18 Apr 2006 17:55 GMT

Fuel's been creeping up for a while round here (Chelt area). BP seems
to be the highest, Shell seem to be cheapest. Not too bothered as i
don't pay for fuel in the van (although we have been told this week to
buy where is cheapest), don't use Disco that much so will again buy
where ever is cheapest.

How do the petrol stations set their prices??. Manager at one garage
has admitted to me that he sets his prices against Tesco's. BP range
from 96.9p on one side of town to 98.9 over the other side. What will
annoy me though is the 'lets blockade fuel depots' types who will
undoubtably crawl out of the woodwork again.

Dom Jackson

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Andrew Renshaw - 18 Apr 2006 19:26 GMT

While wittering aimlessly and without thinking Dom said:-

> How do the petrol stations set their prices??. Manager at one garage
> has admitted to me that he sets his prices against Tesco's. BP range
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> Dom Jackson

I have recently travelled across West Africa and paid from 11 pence (UK) per
litre (the cheapest) to 70 pence per litre in Mauritania (the most expensive
because of transport and road infrastructure). The average I paid was in
West Sahara the grand total of 22 pence per litre for Shell.

Now do tell me if they are charging and average of 22 pence per litre in
such places and making a profit then why should we have such high charges
here? Now I understand the argument about a percentage being tax in this
country but the tax increases the more expensive it is.

Diesel prices are a rip off and I for one feel that people in the country
(where there is no or little public transport) and people who need a car are
being penalised and taxed. This puts a heavy burden on farmers and increases
the cost of food to us all. Speak to any hauliers and they will tell you
that fuel is to expensive.

I really think before posting in a public forum, you need to think through
your comments or is it you are just a townie.

Yours

Andy

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Gary G Jones - 18 Apr 2006 19:45 GMT

Could reach a £1 a ltr this summer, we should be so lucky, most places in
West Norfolk are 99.9 or if you are near Three Holes its been 105 a ltr or
so for around 6 months or more now.
I bet most places round here are over the £1 by the end of April.
GGJ

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Richard Brookman - 18 Apr 2006 19:49 GMT

|| While wittering aimlessly and without thinking Dom said:-
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|| percentage being tax in this country but the tax increases the more
|| expensive it is.

In the UK it is not a percentage as such. Added to the retailer's charge
for the actual fuel (which isn't far from your 22 pence) is the fuel DUTY
which I think is in the order of 47 pence and then VAT (which is a
percentage) is added on top of all of the previous. VAT would be peanuts
without the duty being added on first. And remember that you are paying VAT
on the duty itself - being taxed on the tax you've paid, in effect.

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Derek - 18 Apr 2006 22:41 GMT

> While wittering aimlessly and without thinking Dom said:-
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> Andy

Hmm the problem is thats the way the industry works my prices were set
against the competition when you realise that some sites in a conurbation
are selling at 91.9 and others at 96.9 somebody is maximising their profit
and as I posted about a month ago when Total (my employers of 20 odd years
ago) closed our local site leaving only shell based and Tesco the price
ramped up.
But globally try this piece of logic
Who has caused the current round of price increases by threatening Iran with
unspecified (maybe nuclear) action?
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article351712.ece
Who pays his wages?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3332.htm
Who profits?
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/031406EB.shtml

sad that the most powerful man in the world behaves like J R Ewing

Derek
( I did forecast this didn't I?)

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Dom J - 18 Apr 2006 23:27 GMT

Good old Mr Bush!.

Maybe my comments about fuel protesters were a bit harsh.

I appriciate that Haulage contractors, farmers etc need to use fuel to
earn a living and that fuel is incredibaly expensive. I have no
problem with a peaceful protest outside a refinary, but what i have a
problem with is the rent-a-mob element who get involved.

Also what doesn't help is the press hyping the price rise out of all
proportion. How long before we see panic buying at the pumps again,
probably within a few hours of the first 'Fuel Rationing......'
headline on a tabloid.

.....and to answer your question Andrew.........no i'm not a 'townie'.
Lived in the sticks where using a car is essential for day to day
living all my life.

Dom J

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Larry - 19 Apr 2006 21:58 GMT

Bloody middle east wars again innit.

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