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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / April 2006

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Old tyres: marks on road/pavement?

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Ian Rawlings - 21 Apr 2006 10:25 GMT
Hello peeps, I've noticed that my new toy is leaving tyre marks on the
neighbour's drive (I have to drive across part of their driveway to
get to the back of my house).  They've not complained but I like to
leave as little impact on others as I can, especially when they live
next door.  The marks aren't due to the vehicle turning as it's going
mostly straight and there is evidence that some of the marks are down
to the front tyres so I don't think the sideways dragging from the
four wheels at the rear are a problem.

So I reckon it's down to the tyres being about 1,000 years old
(probably 6-8 minimum really), have any of you with older ex-mil
vehicles noticed marks being left by the original tyres?  I'd like to
replace them anyway when I can afford it.

Cheers!

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AJH - 21 Apr 2006 10:54 GMT
>The marks aren't due to the vehicle turning as it's going
>mostly straight and there is evidence that some of the marks are down
>to the front tyres so I don't think the sideways dragging from the
>four wheels at the rear are a problem.

Are you sure the front wheels aren't being driven and the wind up is
showing at the front because the two rear axles exert more force?

AJH
Ian Rawlings - 21 Apr 2006 11:12 GMT
> Are you sure the front wheels aren't being driven and the wind up is
> showing at the front because the two rear axles exert more force?

Yep.  Drive to the front is off, and all the cross-axle diffs are off.

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beamendsltd - 21 Apr 2006 11:30 GMT
> Hello peeps, I've noticed that my new toy is leaving tyre marks on the
> neighbour's drive (I have to drive across part of their driveway to
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> Cheers!

My Michellin XCL's used to turn everything black with a five mile
radius - it must be down to the compound or something. I've not
noticed this with other tyres I've lugged around.

Richard
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Ian Rawlings - 21 Apr 2006 12:11 GMT
> My Michellin XCL's used to turn everything black with a five mile
> radius - it must be down to the compound or something. I've not
> noticed this with other tyres I've lugged around.

OK, so it's likely to be age, or compound, or both.  I was going to
replace the tyres with technic trackers, which have been ace on my
Defender and didn't leave any blacking, they're also not too
aggressive for green laning unlike the anaconda's that I've been
recommended by mud-plugging pinz owners.

Cheers fer the feedback.

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Derek - 21 Apr 2006 21:52 GMT
> Hello peeps, I've noticed that my new toy is leaving tyre marks on the
> neighbour's drive (I have to drive across part of their driveway to
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>
> Cheers!

Sounds like the rubber compound is breaking down ( dey do dat dont dey)
and releasing the carbon black ( I used to get mucky delivering to tyre
manufacturers) more modern componds use silica which doesnt mark the same
http://www.etyres.co.uk/glossary-tyre-terms?term=carbon-black
Derek
Disco 200Tdi ( breathes sigh of relief )
Ian Rawlings - 21 Apr 2006 22:30 GMT
> Sounds like the rubber compound is breaking down ( dey do dat dont
> dey) and releasing the carbon black ( I used to get mucky delivering
> to tyre manufacturers) more modern componds use silica which doesnt
> mark the same

I'll check to see if there are codes on the tyres that I can use to
determine the age, I wouldn't be surprised to find that they're over
10 years old.

Of course the neighbours hadn't even noticed until I spoke to them a
little while ago, must learn to keep my mouth shut!

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Derek - 23 Apr 2006 01:36 GMT
>> Sounds like the rubber compound is breaking down ( dey do dat dont
>> dey) and releasing the carbon black ( I used to get mucky delivering
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> Of course the neighbours hadn't even noticed until I spoke to them a
> little while ago, must learn to keep my mouth shut!

Ah well these thinks happen but for goodness sake don't mention those drops
of oil that have appeared. I'm going to service the Disco next week and
while lying underneath checking whether those side steps are going to play
nice when I take them off I noticed my first drip - what a relief I thought
the gearbox must surely be empty
Derek
Disco-loured driveway
Jon - 24 Apr 2006 08:22 GMT
My BFG ATs leave black marks on my tarmac turning circle.  They are
about 2 years old now.

short of not turning or turning on grass (not without problems!) i
cant think how you would stop it.

Jon

>Hello peeps, I've noticed that my new toy is leaving tyre marks on the
>neighbour's drive (I have to drive across part of their driveway to
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>
>Cheers!
 
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