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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / May 2006

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Age old problem - RRC tailgate adjustment

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Dave R - 12 May 2006 11:29 GMT
After getting the Range Rover fairly good, and having fixed most of the
problems. Even the electrics work!

The question I have is although I put a new(ish) tailgate on, the
bloody thing keeps popping open on one side and it's bloody annoying
me.

Any experience of this?

Dave
Oily - 12 May 2006 13:33 GMT
> After getting the Range Rover fairly good, and having fixed most of the
> problems. Even the electrics work!
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>
> Dave

Mine ('94 RRC) used to do this a lot and I put this down to the body sagging
at the corners due to rot at each end of the rear body crossmember. I took
off  the right rear corner panel, cut the end out of the crossmember, pulled
out the wiring for the no plate lamps and self tappers for the bottom
tailgate spring guides, cleaned out the hollow member and forced in a new
one made out of 3mm steel, 64" long whilst jacking up the corners then plug
welded it to the good bits and reinforced the body corners. It has now
started to do it again occasionally and as you say it is bloody annoying but
I think the catches are worn or damaged due to the weight that was on them.
I'm going to try some new catches but at the moment I've disconnected one of
the gas struts as a temporary measure to stop it lifting even if it does
release itself 'cos it's a real pain in the butt!

Martin
Martin Coombs - 12 May 2006 14:12 GMT
You may have tried this, but you can slacken the screws holding the pin to
the body side and tap it in the direction to get a better latch and tighten
screws again. Worked for me.

Martin

>> After getting the Range Rover fairly good, and having fixed most of the
>> problems. Even the electrics work!
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>
> Martin
Lee_D - 12 May 2006 14:51 GMT
Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> After getting the Range Rover fairly good, and having fixed most of
> the problems. Even the electrics work!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Dave

yup....

BTDT

http://www.lrproject.com/alfie/catches/index.html

HTH

Most unnerving when the tail gate opens at 40mph with two German Shepheards
in the back.

Lee
Dave R - 12 May 2006 15:55 GMT
Cheers All,

I thought you might have had experience of this Lee. I'll have a look
at his over the weekend if I can. I;ve got the whole weekend off,
unheard of in high season!!!

Dave
Dave R - 12 May 2006 18:28 GMT
I forgot to mention, it never opens all the way, just the port side
opens up and rattles. I thought it my have been what "oily" was talking
about  but I completely redid the rear crossmember and floor last
month. All I can think is that I've welded the sag in place, if you
know what i mean.

I have to reverse down a very steep drive onto the lane so I'm think
the body flexes and then "pop" she flips open. I nearly lost the plot
this morning and bought a toilet door latch and put that on.

Dave
Lee_D - 12 May 2006 18:59 GMT
Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> I forgot to mention, it never opens all the way, just the port side
> opens up and rattles. I thought it my have been what "oily" was
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Dave

Sounds like an adjustment issue then on the particuar side affected. Try
slackening the rods a touch on that side. Only a nats cock mind. On my last
tailgate that I replaced with new the rod through the frame was well gunked
up and needed to be cleared out as the gunk held it open. Also the rods
being able to "chatter" with engine/movement vibes is sometimes enough to
allow the catch to slip to the firrst latch. There are clips to prevent this
occuring so check they are in place... if they are there then again they may
need lubricating too. Don't forget the doofer on the body work can also be
adjusted but I'd leave that to the last thing, the thickness of the rubber
seal along the bottom of the tailgate can also put some heavy presure on the
latch and if the workings of the latch are fecked as they were in the write
up linked then no amount of adjustment will help.. it'll be a replacement
latch which isn't uncommon as I've had two go on two different RRC's

Lee D
Dave R - 13 May 2006 18:14 GMT
> Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> > I forgot to mention, it never opens all the way, just the port side
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>
> Lee D

I'm just out to have a fiddle now. It now seems to be an intermittent
problem though now. The handle part on the  inside with two bolts on it
was loose so that can't have helped and it happens less now. When you
say "slacken the rod" do you mean lengthen it or shorten it? I might
just try and give it a clean out. Can you remember how much new latches
are?

Dave
Lee_D - 13 May 2006 18:49 GMT
Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:

> I'm just out to have a fiddle now. It now seems to be an intermittent
> problem though now. The handle part on the  inside with two bolts on
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Dave

I recall around £25 or so each.. slacken is to lengthen on this occasion,
don't forget new bolts if you do need a catch the others will probably be
well munged when they come out.
Dave R - 13 May 2006 18:53 GMT
Cheers, just going to have a tinker, other half having worrying
contraction like pains! Tsk, do this woman not understand that I have
things to fix!!!

Dave
Lee_D - 13 May 2006 19:55 GMT
Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Cheers, just going to have a tinker, other half having worrying
> contraction like pains! Tsk, do this woman not understand that I have
> things to fix!!!
>
> Dave

Braxton Hicks I think they are called , basically practice contractions

a) to get them used to the pain
b) to save a fortune on Beer (stops you drinking at night just in case)

Mrs D had some the night I came out of Hospital from a Knee op.... 3am and
she was ready to pull the wall paper off and I'm hoping around the room
packing a hospital bag for her, 30 minutes of pain for me later and she says
, "It's ok they've gone off now."

Lee D
Dave R - 13 May 2006 20:30 GMT
> Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> > Cheers, just going to have a tinker, other half having worrying
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>
> Lee D

I seem to recognise the words "Braxton Hicks", even though it was hard
to recognise them in between "F^&K", "C$%^ST, and "B*%%*"£$". Her
stomach goes so hard you could bounce Range Rover wheel nuts off them
when it's happening!

She's due on the 22nd do it really is any time now. There's  a really
sharp turn into the hospital so at least I should be able to see if
I've fixed my tailgate if it happens tonight........

Dave
Richard Brookman - 13 May 2006 21:27 GMT
| She's due on the 22nd do it really is any time now. There's  a really
| sharp turn into the hospital so at least I should be able to see if
| I've fixed my tailgate if it happens tonight........
|
| Dave

Oy, I'm only a mile or two away.  Give a shout if you need owt.

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Dave R - 13 May 2006 21:37 GMT
cheers mate, it's noted, and appreciated. Do you want to be put on "the
list" (of people who want to be told within 24hrs of it's arrival?!)

Dave
Richard Brookman - 13 May 2006 21:48 GMT
|| cheers mate, it's noted, and appreciated. Do you want to be put on
|| "the list" (of people who want to be told within 24hrs of it's
|| arrival?!)
||
|| Dave

Yes please.  But don't leave it 24hrs!

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Rich
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Lee_D - 13 May 2006 23:18 GMT
Richard Brookman <newsboy@nowhere.com> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:

>>> cheers mate, it's noted, and appreciated. Do you want to be put on
>>> "the list" (of people who want to be told within 24hrs of it's
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Yes please.  But don't leave it 24hrs!

I knew my way to our hospital in my sleep by the time our first actually
arrived , we had about four or five tyre burning rehersals, each time
setting a new lap record, could have been the warm tyres or carrying less
fuel... or the need for a full nights kip. Ah yes I remember it well, not a
million years ago mind. If yer that close it's probably revving up, Braxton
Hicks comes alot sooner if my memory serves me well......

Lee
Dave R - 14 May 2006 00:03 GMT
Thats the thing that's bothering me. It seems that there seems to be a
"set order" for doing things and for things happening to give you a bit
of a warning, and Ang has been about a fortnight ahead of them all
along. I'm fully expecting a midnight dash any night soon. Mind you, if
it looks like it may be overdue i'm going to take Ang for a jaunt up a
particularly rocky track (fnar! fnar!) and try to hurry things along.
After all, I've got a trial to go to on the 28th!!
Tim Hobbs - 21 May 2006 21:47 GMT
>Thats the thing that's bothering me. It seems that there seems to be a
>"set order" for doing things and for things happening to give you a bit
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>particularly rocky track (fnar! fnar!) and try to hurry things along.
>After all, I've got a trial to go to on the 28th!!

Mandy was 10 days overdue, and in the end was induced.  Best advice
from the midwife was that the most effective way to induce birth is
sex, sex and more sex.  The stuff they use to bring on labour is
apparently found naturally in sperm.  No, really....

When labour starts, don't panic.  There's loads of time, and it will
seem like even longer!

Good luck!

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'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
'06 Nissan Navara aka "The Truck"

Dave Liquorice - 21 May 2006 23:21 GMT
> When labour starts, don't panic.  There's loads of time, and it will
> seem like even longer!

The early stages are a bit slow but the end is quick. I can't describe
the feelings when handed this tiny purple fading to pink blood stained
blotchy creature. And if anyone says a brand new newborn doesn't have a
personality  don't believe 'em.

Duration of labour is very variable. Firsts can be a bit drawn out but
beware of subsequent ones. Sisters first was the normal sort of 12+ hrs
jobbie, 2nd, 4hrs and born at home, unplanned. But, yeah, don't panic.
The human species has been doing it very succesfully for thousands of
years.

Wot's with all these AFL babies? What happened 9 months ago, some meet in
the back of a 101?

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Tim Hobbs - 22 May 2006 13:24 GMT
>> When labour starts, don't panic.  There's loads of time, and it will
>> seem like even longer!
>
>The early stages are a bit slow but the end is quick.

You want to see what happens when they accidentally induce you
twice....

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'03 Volvo V70
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Austin Shackles - 22 May 2006 19:28 GMT
>>> When labour starts, don't panic.  There's loads of time, and it will
>>> seem like even longer!
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>You want to see what happens when they accidentally induce you
>twice....

I don't think I do... sounds nasty.

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Tim Hobbs - 22 May 2006 19:56 GMT
>>>> When labour starts, don't panic.  There's loads of time, and it will
>>>> seem like even longer!
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>
>I don't think I do... sounds nasty.

Memorable, I think is the best way to describe it...
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Richard Brookman - 22 May 2006 20:28 GMT
|| Best advice from the midwife was that the most effective way to induce
birth is
|| sex, sex and more sex.  The stuff they use to bring on labour is
|| apparently found naturally in sperm.  No, really....
||
|| When labour starts, don't panic....

Just back out very slowly...

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Dave R - 15 May 2006 21:47 GMT
Meant to thank you Lee, if you didn't pick it up elsewhere, the
tailgate has satayed firmly shut as required for the last few days!
many thanks

Dave
Lee_D - 15 May 2006 22:31 GMT
Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Meant to thank you Lee, if you didn't pick it up elsewhere, the
> tailgate has satayed firmly shut as required for the last few days!
> many thanks
>
> Dave

Way hay! Another happy customer.

I knew all those hours would come in handy for someone :-)

Lee D
beamendsltd - 14 May 2006 08:56 GMT
> Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> >> Dave R <v8bobber@yahoo.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> don't forget new bolts if you do need a catch the others will probably be
> well munged when they come out.

MXC8420  Upper Tailgate Catch Assembly - RRC RH  £19.97 inc VAT
MXC8421  Upper Tailgate Catch Assembly - RRC LH  £19.97 inc VAT

Richard
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