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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / May 2006Exporting a Land Rover from England into the States?
Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to get a Defender to, let's say, the Port of Jacksonville, FL? TIA! --PirateJohn-- www.PirateJohn.com www.BuccaneerPress.com PirateJohn <PirateJohn@aol.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: > Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to > get a Defender to, let's say, the Port of Jacksonville, FL? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > www.PirateJohn.com > www.BuccaneerPress.com Hi, None personally but Sis recently sold JLO http://www.lrproject.com/jlo/index.htm to a chap who exported her to the US. If you email me off list via the email on the linked site then I'll forward it on to Sis and ask her to forward on to the chap your side IYSWIM. Other than that you may have some luck speaking to Paddocks http://www.paddockspares.com/ who I understand have some experience in this area. What ever you do come back though and let us know! Lee D  Signaturewww.lrproject.com Reaching the parts other Landrover restorers can't reach - JLo makes new home in the USA. Percy IIa - two Engines to the mile, awaits a new chassis. Morph - He's "living the dream". a.f.l. & 101ers Unofficial October 2006 <http://www.lrproject.com/afl__101_owners_unofficial.htm> > PirateJohn <PirateJohn@aol.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: > > Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Lee D Also check out the pre-1972 rule- for all I know there may be exceptions though. Richard Signaturewww.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone? Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay beamendsltd <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: > Also check out the pre-1972 rule- for all I know there may be > exceptions though. > > Richard H'mmmm, must be a loop hole or some ringering going on come to think of it... Mind the bloke did wait for the Docs to be sent to the DVLA for the engine number to be corrected as he said it would need to be bob on for the export... was it Pre 72 or pre a certain age? Lee >was it Pre 72 or pre a certain age? My understanding from reading the 101 list was that it was a 25 year rule. Mind it also has something to do with the state involved. AJH > beamendsltd <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> uttered summat worrerz funny > about: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Lee All I know is that the bloke who exported my 101 said that to go to the US it had to be pre-1972 or 76 (don't know if that's build date or first use) and have no repairs to the chassis). Richard Signaturewww.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone? Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay << All I know is that the bloke who exported my 101 said that to go to the US it had to be pre-1972 or 76 (don't know if that's build date or first use) and have no repairs to the chassis). >> One gentleman was nice enough to send me some links to the official US policies and so forth. Must be over 25 years old or comply with standards that a Defender couldn't possibly comply with, no exceptions for offroad usage, etc., etc. And yet at http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140000245256&fromM akeTrack=true you have someone trying to sell a Defender diesel parts truck that is supposed to be sitting in Miami. Someone 'splain this to me, please ;) > you have someone trying to sell a Defender diesel parts truck that is > supposed to be sitting in Miami. Can you not call them and ask them about whether it's legal and prod around for some info? SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> you have someone trying to sell a Defender diesel parts truck that is >> supposed to be sitting in Miami. > >Can you not call them and ask them about whether it's legal and prod >around for some info? As far as Defenders go there are of course a number of special USA limited addition versions that snuck in under the radar for a year or so. They were fitted with integral roll cages and had other special US standards met at the time. I think since then, sometime in the early 90's, later Federal standards put an end to it. I note from the web that these models fetch fancy prices over there, more than when new. The thing about all (except the Freelander) Land Rovers though, is their unit construction. They are a bag of bolt on bits and more customisable and rebuildable than just about any other car around.. One can import an old series Land Rover, over 25 years or whatever the rule is, and effectively rebuild it from spare parts that are available and/or importable. I've seen a great custom rebuild Series 3 in the US that had a new galvanised chassis, coil springs and Range Rover running gear. As good or better than a new Defender. Considering the premium price of these relatively rare cars over there I'd imagine that custom rebuilding would be a good investment. SignatureJohn Lubran << As far as Defenders go there are of course a number of special USA limited addition versions that snuck in under the radar for a year or so. >> No diesels, alas. And the body selection is pretty limited. That, and the fact that a used Defender 90 over here is priced sky high anyway. << The thing about all (except the Freelander) Land Rovers though, is their unit construction. They are a bag of bolt on bits and more customisable and rebuildable than just about any other car around.. >> Yeah, that's pretty much what seems to be happening. Having seen commercial trucks rebuilt and 911 Porsches rebuilt about an older chassis, a Defender would be a piece of cake. Still, how do you get a 90's Defender into the US? Cut it in half and call it parts? >Still, how do you get a 90's Defender into the US? Cut it in half and >call it parts? I reckon just so. Import it in a dozen separate crates, all you need is a foundation vehicle with a legal status. SignatureJohn Lubran << Can you not call them and ask them about whether it's legal and prod around for some info? >> Actually, I have sent them an email. The one that they have for sale is a bit, uh, "less well maintained" than what I have in mind but they are close enough to my residence that I wouldn't mind running down to Miami and having a chat with them. > Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to get > a Defender to, let's say, the Port of Jacksonville, FL? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > www.PirateJohn.com > www.BuccaneerPress.com I cut this from the US customs site SAFETY, BUMPER, AND THEFT PREVENTION STANDARDS Importers of motor vehicles must file form HS-7 at the time of vehicle is imported to declare whether the vehicle complies with DOT requirements. As a general rule, motor vehicles less than 25 years old must comply with all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) in order to be imported permanently into the United States. Vehicles manufactured after September 1, 1978, must also meet the bumper standard, and vehicles beginning with model year 1987 must meet the theft-prevention standard.. also you need to have the chassis and anywhere that mud and sundry debris might accumulate thoroughly cleaned or you will be in for a severe arse kicking off the Agriculture Department there is a webpage with the rest of the info plus some experienced importers to help you through the regs http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ Derek >> Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to get >> a Defender to, let's say, the Port of Jacksonville, FL? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Derek You could try chatting to the Huddersfield land rover centre they export to the U.S and are a friendly bunch Icky >>> Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to get >>> a Defender to, let's say, the Port of Jacksonville, FL? [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Icky Just spoken to Huddersfield Land Rover centre as I have had an enquiry about my 200tdi from the sates. Apparently only Landrovers 25 years old or more can be imported... No exceptions. Guess my 200tdi isnt going overseas then! Jon > Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to get > a Defender to, let's say, the Port of Jacksonville, FL? http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ELIG010906.html The above has lists of vehicles that are eligible for importing into the states, and the Defender 110 is on it, but only the 1993 model year from the look of it. I've not checked out the page in any detail but it might be worth you having a look and asking the right questions to the NHTSA (whoever they are). SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! << I've not checked out the page in any detail but it might be worth you having a look and asking the right questions to the NHTSA (whoever they are). >> Thanks Ian. A couple of folks have sent me that list and I've had a few back channel conversations with folks who have imported a few vehicles, both above the table and under the table. The sad reality with importing a Defender on the NHTSA list and having it converted is that one will wind up with an older vehicle that will cost more than one of the new US spec Defenders that are supposed to be arriving in the USA late in 2007. What I was hoping to find was a somewhat inexpensive Defender (although some of the more expensive 110's really look good!) that I could operate in the Mexican desert and jungle and take out to go fishin' here in Florida every so often. Oh yeah ... with a diesel, which was never offered here. I dunno. I may wind up buying a container of parts and rebuilding them around a donor Range Rover or pre-1980 LR ;) --PirateJohn-- www.PirateJohn.com > Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to get > a Defender to, let's say, the Port of Jacksonville, FL? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > www.PirateJohn.com > www.BuccaneerPress.com John: http://www.skytoprover.com imports Land Rovers all the time to the US. They will even transport what your looking for to your front door via car-carrier. Call then with your specs. Good luck. Jack. > http://www.skytoprover.com imports Land Rovers all the time to the US. They > will even transport what your looking for to your front door via > car-carrier. Call then with your specs. Good luck. They all appear to be past the 25-year mark, apart from one 1993 Camel Trophy Defender 200TDi, a snip at about £30,000! The OP was after a more recent Defender at somewhat less than £30k. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! << John: http://www.skytoprover.com imports Land Rovers all the time to the US. They will even transport what your looking for to your front door via car-carrier. Call then with your specs. Good luck. >> Thanks Jack! > Anyone have any experience? Specifically, how tough would it be to get > a Defender to, let's say, the Port of Jacksonville, FL? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > www.PirateJohn.com > www.BuccaneerPress.com John Wesley Gilmer III, 12526 Agatite Road, Jacksonville, Florida 32258; (904) 247-3543 or (904) 652-7222 or (904) 268-5220 or (904) 673-0932; "I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are. You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I had to kill. Legally." -- john wesley gilmer III; john wesley gilmer III is, of course, "el Presidente, Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club, www.ABVMC.com" ~~~ The information below is verified data regarding the malicious miscreant - "PigSty Pirate John" Wesley Gilmer III - who hides behind dozens of aliases to flame, harass, and infringe upon other people. It is unknown how many more aliases the scumbag hides behind. John Wesley Gilmer III 12526 Agatite Road Jacksonville, Florida 32258 (904) 268-5220 or (904) 673-0932 (904) 247-3543 or (904) 652-7222 Known and verified aliases: piratejohn@aol.com buccaneerjuan@aol.com BuccaneerPress@aol.com Updates@BuccaneerPublishing.com jgilmer@moffitthvac.com piratejohnjax@aol.com "Douggie" <Douglas_Long@hushmail.com> Alcibiades@hush.com "Nightmare" <your_worse_nightmare@mac.hush.com> "Willy" <Hoodoo@hush.com> Yellow-Eyed-Ferret@hushmail.com "Scipio's roommate" <scipios_pal@yahoo.com> "Ginger" <Ginger_Germany@yahoo.com> "Floyd" <scipios_pal@yahoo.com> "Viper" <rattler_stomper@yahoo.com> "Jose" <rattler_stomper@yahoo.com> Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo <rattler_stomper@yahoo.com> BuccaneerJuan@aol.com piratejohn@aol.comNOSPAM PirateJWG@aol.com Billy_Cmelaks_daddy@hushmail.com "Bill Cmelak" Hoodoo@hush.com "Smelly Billy" <Hoodoo@hush.com> "Guy Good" <TrollWatch@hush.com> matanzastrading@aol.com piratejohn2@yahoo.com warp12sys@aol.com WarpTwelve@aol.com TeamConfuzed@aol.com JWGilmer@aol.com TrollWatch@hush.com BillyRighteous@aol.com GodIsSpanish@aol.com Mr.Good@aol.com FreddyGoode@aol.com Take notice of the "NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245" data in the headers of messages he has transmitted. He posted those messages via his place of employment, Moffitt Corporation in Jacksonville Beach, Florida. What a sh.t-hole that must be to allow an abject loser like him to post all manner of malicious and racist content all day long. 209.177.232.245 = Moffitt Corporation Moffitt Corporation 1351 13th Avenue South, Suite 130 Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250 The messages whose headers are transmitted via "NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189" are those he typically spews away from Moffitt Corporation, usually from the house owned by his facilitating girlfriend Deborah Lynch rather than that of his current wife Claudia, aka "Joey. The latest development is that "PirateJohn" Gilmer has posted messages that originate from the 216.253.112.18 domain which is registered to Venus Medical Communications, 1351 13TH AVE S, JAXVILLE BCH, FL, 32250 which, not too surprisingly, is a very close neighbor of Moffitt Corporation whose address is 1351 13th Avenue South, Suite 130, Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250! -- "PigSty PirateJohn" Weasely Gilmer III who initiates and perpetuates, yet refuses to take responsibility for, internet and real life abuse: John Wesley Gilmer III, 12526 Agatite Road, Jacksonville, Florida 32258; (904) 247-3543 or (904) 652-7222 or (904) 268-5220 or (904) 673-0932; "I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are. You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I had to kill. Legally." -- john wesley gilmer III; john wesley gilmer III is, of course, "el Presidente, Atlantic Beach Vintage Motorcycle Club, www.ABVMC.com" |
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