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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / July 2006Air con 101
Ok probably a good reason not too but.... what about one of these.... <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-0KW-R410A-PORTABLE-AIR-CONDITIONING_W0QQitemZ4640271328Q QihZ002QQcategoryZ36798QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> being run off one of them 2kw EUi2 or what ever they are Gennys .. strapped to a craddle such that it could be used on the move as well as on site. Thoughts please. Lee >Thoughts please. It'll never work! ;-) >>Thoughts please. > >It'll never work! ;-) although I can loan an EU20i for testing should you wish to try....  SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '03 Volvo V70 '06 Nissan Navara aka "The Truck" Tim Hobbs <tim@spam.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: >>> Thoughts please. >> >> It'll never work! ;-) > > although I can loan an EU20i for testing should you wish to try.... I may take you up on that Tim. Any Air con Wizards out there know what 2kw of cooling means in a caravan / 101? I'd go for the kit as I could use it in both the 101 and Caravan which would be more likely to get the approval from the financial advisor. I'm also keen to ditch my current genny (Makro special) having seen the Honda in action and barely heard it. Which reminds me... I think I have a spark plug to go and clean before it's needed in an emegency. Lee D > Tim Hobbs <tim@spam.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Lee D With generators you do need to be careful as there is some reference to an inductive load i.e. motors and this reduces what the genny will run, so you may need a bigger genny than you think, the air con unit seems a bit dear as you can get a 9000 btu one at B&Q for £200. what ever size you have, whether it is big enough for the job or not you will still get a cold breeze out of it, remember to use the exhaust air tube to an outside point as this is used to remove the heat. Rich >Any Air con Wizards out there know what 2kw of cooling means in a caravan / >101? Have just had a serverroom done at work. tis about 12ftx30ft and contains 15 or so always on computers and 2 people during working hours and has big windows that catch the sun up one side. I think the aircon in that is rated at either 8 or 11kw (i cant remember which). Either way - just to cool the inside of a 101 then 2kw sounds like plenty. >> Any Air con Wizards out there know what 2kw of cooling means in a >> caravan / 101? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > remember which). Either way - just to cool the inside of a 101 then > 2kw sounds like plenty. Thats depends on a sunny day in summer the incident radiation from the sun is of order of 1kW/m^2. How big is the side of a 101?... IMHO small "air conditioning" units are a waste of space, doubly so for the evaporative rather than heat pump type. Probably better of fitting a decent ceiling fan(*) that can slowly move the whole body of air in the room. Table fans just shift a bit of air at high speed rather then set up a very gently flow. (*) Head room might be a problem in a 101 but high volume low speed is the key to a fan. SignatureCheers new5pam@howhill.com Dave. pam is missing e-mail > Thats depends on a sunny day in summer the incident radiation from > the sun is of order of 1kW/m^2. How big is the side of a 101?... A chap on another list who fits air con units to all sorts of vehicles, mostly off-road expedition vehicles and haulage trucks, found that anything less than an 8.5Kw (29000 btu) unit wasn't really suitable for Florida. A smaller 4Kw unit he fitted to a Volvo C303 (similar in size and shape to a 101) sucked 58 amps on full load and 7 amps once it cooled the air sufficiently. Those current draws at 24v I believe. A 5Kw like a Webasto CC5E might be OK for hot days in Britain. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! Dave Liquorice <new5pam@howhill.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: >>> Any Air con Wizards out there know what 2kw of cooling means in a >>> caravan / 101? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > (*) Head room might be a problem in a 101 but high volume low speed is > the key to a fan. Lee_D <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: >> (*) Head room might be a problem in a 101 but high volume low speed >> is the key to a fan. whoops wrong button! I'm thinking on that logic after my last trip... output from the pto to a Chinnook rota should have it sorted then. ;-) Sun is not something to worry about, the heat from the Engine & Gearbox is the main issue. If it could be bought down to sunny day in a non aircon car temperatures then that would be a start, a cool burst of coldness would be pure luxury. Give me three months mind and I'll be trying to squeeze a few more BTU's from the Eberspacher again. I've a vision on bonnet scoops mounted just behind the doors to afford draught for the rear seat occupants. Trouble with the last trip with the roof hatch open, twin fans blowing in air which was warm by default and another heater again blowing warm (ambient temperature at the time) it was a tad sticky should we say. The Welsh greenlaning trip was fine so it's purely an ambient temperature issue. Lee D > I've a vision on bonnet scoops mounted just behind the doors to afford > draught for the rear seat occupants. Trouble with the last trip with > the roof hatch open, twin fans blowing in air which was warm by default > and another heater again blowing warm (ambient temperature at the time) > it was a tad sticky should we say. I half got the impression you wanted something for use when stationary. If moving and thus have a reasonable flow of air some form of evaporative cooler in the existing ventilation may help a lot. I don't know how the cheap evaporative coolers do the evaporation, presumably some form of large wick and water reservoir arrangement. They certainly produce cool air. The snag it it's rather damp cool air so running one in an unventilated area soon produces condensation problems... SignatureCheers new5pam@howhill.com Dave. pam is missing e-mail >>Thoughts please. > >It'll never work! ;-) This will... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4639717954 SignatureComing quite soon: http://www.ulrc.net > This will... > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4639717954 'Tis a gorgeous thing. I hope it fits.... Steve >> This will... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Steve it will, when warren gets round to it!!!!!!! SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... Simon Isaacs <crgreobebhtu4k4@ogbcrajbeyq.pbz> uttered summat worrerz funny about: > it will, when warren gets round to it!!!!!!! me thinks my Diff is going to suddenly take priority... looks like a job for another year :-( Lee >>> Thoughts please. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4639717954 Not without the rest of the kit it won't. Signature"He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt her doing it." The fiend of my fiend is my enema! >> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4639717954 > >Not without the rest of the kit it won't. Eh? What extra kit? I have all the leccie bits, vaccu, enough pipework to go around the truck three times and the compressor. Can't think there's much missing - but then again, haven't got around to fitting it yet. SignatureComing quite soon: http://www.ulrc.net >>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4639717954 >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Can't think there's much missing - but then again, haven't got around > to fitting it yet. The ad denied presence of compressor Signature"He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt her doing it." The fiend of my fiend is my enema! >> Can't think there's much missing - but then again, haven't got around >> to fitting it yet. > >The ad denied presence of compressor Oh, yeah it didn't mention it - the chap threw a new one in at time of collection - plus some other bits - I really wish all eBay purchases were as pleasant. Got a DVD a few weeks ago - turned out to be a poor quality VHS to DVD copy - not worth leaving Negative feedback only to get the same in return :-( SignatureComing quite soon: http://www.ulrc.net >>> Can't think there's much missing - but then again, haven't got >>> around to fitting it yet. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > quality VHS to DVD copy - not worth leaving Negative feedback only to > get the same in return :-( Who's a jammy wotsit then. Signature"He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt her doing it." If the answer is offensive maybe the question was inappropriate The fiend of my fiend is my enema! > Got a DVD a few weeks ago - turned out to be a poor >quality VHS to DVD copy - not worth leaving Negative feedback only to >get the same in return :-( that is, of course, where the whole feedback thing falls down. The sort of arse who sells dodgy goods won't care about his own reputation and won't think twice about retaliating, which spoils your record. These days I'm very fussy about who I deal with on eBay. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee" John Donne (1571? - 1631) Devotions, XVII >>> Can't think there's much missing - but then again, haven't got around >>> to fitting it yet. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >quality VHS to DVD copy - not worth leaving Negative feedback only to >get the same in return :-( No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading Standards.... SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '03 Volvo V70 '06 Nissan Navara aka "The Truck" >No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading Standards.... In Eire? SignatureComing quite soon: http://www.ulrc.net >>No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading Standards.... > >In Eire? http://www.odca.ie/ They get really pissed when you call it Eire... SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '03 Volvo V70 '06 Nissan Navara aka "The Truck" >>>No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading Standards.... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >They get really pissed when you call it Eire... what do they think it's called then? SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "It is a characteristic of the human mind to hate the man one has injured" Tacitus (c.55 - c.117) Agricola, 45 >>>> No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading >>>> Standards.... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > what do they think it's called then? Ireland! Signature"He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt her doing it." If the answer is offensive maybe the question was inappropriate The fiend of my fiend is my enema! >>>>No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading Standards.... >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >what do they think it's called then? I don't know for sure (because it's the one place where I steer very clear of politics!) but I believe it is seen as meaning "the bit the Brits didn't nick off us'. There seems to be a desire to be Irish (regardless of 'Northern' or 'Republic of' prefixes), which Eire / Ulster doesn't sit well with. Recently I've done lots of work in Enniskillen, Belfast, Co Mayo, Dublin and Co Cork and would be happy to emigrate to any of them... That said, most of the workforce seems to actually be Polish. SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '03 Volvo V70 '06 Nissan Navara aka "The Truck" >Recently I've done lots of work in Enniskillen, Belfast, Co Mayo, >Dublin and Co Cork and would be happy to emigrate to any of them... >That said, most of the workforce seems to actually be Polish. yer need a big salary in NI to pay for the insurance though. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination - we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994) >>>No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading Standards.... >> >>In Eire? > >http://www.odca.ie/ Well, can't hurt I guess, ta. >They get really pissed when you call it Eire... Who do? Most of the new members I get from there put Eire on the application, so I dunno. Mind, I'm never very good at keeping up with the new terms. None of my West Indian friends would give room to any other term... SignatureComing quite soon: http://www.ulrc.net > >>No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading Standards.... > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > They get really pissed when you call it Eire... Only the ones that don't realise that Éire is the official name of the country. > -- > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > '03 Volvo V70 > '06 Nissan Navara aka "The Truck" >> >>No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading Standards.... >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Only the ones that don't realise that Éire is the official name of the >country. that's what I thought... SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell" Gen. Sherman (1820-1891) Attr. words in Address at Michigan Military Academy, 19 June 1879. >>>>> No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading >>>>> Standards.... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > that's what I thought... You speaka da Irish? The English for the Irish word/name Éire is Ireland. Signature"He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt her doing it." If the answer is offensive maybe the question was inappropriate The fiend of my fiend is my enema! > >>>>> No, leave him a positive and then call his local Trading > >>>>> Standards.... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The English for the Irish word/name Éire is Ireland. True, but no Irish person should feel offended at anyone's use of the word Éire. According to the Constitution, the name of the country is Éire, or in the English language, Ireland. So either is completely acceptable. Éire appears on all of the coins, stamps, Acts of Parliament, Presidential Seal, you name it. > -- > "He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The fiend of my fiend is my enema! |
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