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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / July 2006Discovery track rod
Quick question: I'm doing the front swivels on my old 1990 Disco and I've noticed that the track rod has a slight bend in it at the point where the steering damper is fixed. Is this correct or is it bent? Cheers Julian. > Quick question: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cheers Julian. It should be dead straight......... in theory. Richard  Signaturewww.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone? Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive > It should be dead straight......... in theory. Cheers, it's off to my mate with oxy/acet to warm and straighten it then. Julian. >> It should be dead straight......... in theory. > >Cheers, it's off to my mate with oxy/acet to warm and straighten it then. > >Julian. Before you decide to straighten it, think about the implications of what would happen if the now weakened component was to break. Track rod ends are cheap. David "rads" <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> > Before you decide to straighten it, think about the implications of > what would happen if the now weakened component was to break. I'm not convinced that taking a slight bow out of a mild steel tubular member will weaken it to any degree, also it's got to be much better than a bent one WRT it buckling under compression? > Track rod ends are cheap. Maybe, but the item in question is the track rod, not the ends. Do new TRE's come with a new trackrod? Julian. >"rads" <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in >message >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Julian. Oops. Read TRE, not TR. Carry on. David > "rads" <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in > message >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Julian. It is unlikely to be mild steel - it is probably a low alloy medium carbon steel with carefully planned heat treatment. JD > It is unlikely to be mild steel - it is probably a low alloy medium carbon > steel with carefully planned heat treatment. > JD It's very likely to be mild steel, actually. And in my experience that's the case - soft as cheese. In normal use the rod, even with partially seized rod ends sees little more that straightforward tension and compression - nothing 'sophisticated' is needed. Mild steel will do the job fine. The buckling load is largely independent of the grade of steel and it is only once buckling has occurred that a 'better' grade will show any advantage. >> It is unlikely to be mild steel - it is probably a low alloy medium carbon >> steel with carefully planned heat treatment. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >is only once buckling has occurred that a 'better' grade will show any >advantage. they don't machine like mild steel. and they're a bastard to straighten. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt" (confound the men who have made our remarks before us.) Aelius Donatus (4th Cent.) [St. Jerome, Commentary on Ecclesiastes] >>>It is unlikely to be mild steel - it is probably a low alloy medium carbon >>>steel with carefully planned heat treatment. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > they don't machine like mild steel. and they're a bastard to straighten. I've only attacked old ones - they hacksawed easily. Straightening is an issue but that's a geometry problem rather than a material one, I think. It'll be a few years before I get a current production one to play with! > "rads" <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in > message >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Maybe, but the item in question is the track rod, not the ends. Do new TRE's > come with a new trackrod? They can do - a complete track rod is about £70 though. The adjuster link, TRE's and tube with bracket are available sperately though. > Julian. Richard Signaturewww.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone? Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive >> "rads" <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in >> message >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >They can do - a complete track rod is about £70 though. The adjuster >link, TRE's and tube with bracket are available sperately though. I straightened a 110 rod once as a short-term fix - the new rod though is not all that pricey if the ends are good. dunno if a disco one is more, mind. The 110 one even including the ends wasn't silly money. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed." Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard. >Quick question: > >I'm doing the front swivels on my old 1990 Disco and I've noticed that the >track rod has a slight bend in it at the point where the steering damper is >fixed. Is this correct or is it bent? If you decide to replace it, I'm interested in the old one. I've a use for short (about 30mm and also sometimes around 200mm) sections of LR track rod - and I've just used up the last of the one I bent... don't know if series ones are the same size... the one I've been using was a 110 one. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945) from Mein Kampf, Ch 10 > If you decide to replace it, I'm interested in the old one. I've a use > for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > a > 110 one. OK, I'll let you know how I get on, you can have it if it won't straighten. I'm still on the last swivel at the moment, and work is going to get in the way for the next few days. (Grrrrr!!) I may need new tie rod ends yet, they seem rather 'notchy,' so if I can't peel back the rubber and grease them then I'll swop them for new ones. WRT the rod, It's such a slight bend that I'm thinking it will straighten if I stick it between two axle stands and sit on the bugger! Julian. >I may need new tie rod ends yet, they seem rather 'notchy,' so if I can't >peel back the rubber and grease them then I'll swop them for new ones. nah, the only way to grease 'em is a grease nipple in the "back" side of the thing. if they have 'em. >WRT the rod, It's such a slight bend that I'm thinking it will straighten if >I stick it between two axle stands and sit on the bugger! mine had quite an impressive bend in it - I got it more-or-less straight by heating it red-hot and straightening it. If it's a *really* slight bend then I'd ignore it, myself... mind, you need to know why it bent - if it's been in a collision (most common cause) then the ends may be iffy. If it's been driven over a lump, then it's just the rod. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Appearances: You don't really need make-up. Celebrate your authentic face by frightening people in the street. from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton. > > If you decide to replace it, I'm interested in the old one. I've a use > > for [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Julian. I've got a good secondhand one if you want one Dave > I've got a good secondhand one if you want one > > Dave Cheers, where abouts are you? I'm near Warrington. I'll not know if I need one for a day or so, work commitments are stopping me from making progress. Julian. > If you decide to replace it, I'm interested in the old one. It's yours for nowt. I straightened it by placing it across some axle stands and thumping it with a lump hammer - dead easy! Next I needed to replace the track rod ends because the old one were knackered, one was seized in the shaft so warmed it up with the propane torch and wound it out together with all the threads in the rod! (Grrr) Beam Ends on Monday for a new one - they seem quite a good price. Julian. >> If you decide to replace it, I'm interested in the old one. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Beam Ends on Monday for a new one - they seem quite a good price. You coming to Malvern, or know anyone who is? SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "'Tis a mad world, my masters" John Taylor (1580-1633) Western Voyage, 1 "Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message > You coming to Malvern, or know anyone who is? Malvern? I'm guessing that this is an enthusiasts meeting? Sorry, I won't be attending, I know two enthusiasts with series LR's, they live close to me but I've never heard Malvern mentioned. But I'll keep the old rod for you just in case you are ever passing. Julian. >"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >but I've never heard Malvern mentioned. But I'll keep the old rod for you >just in case you are ever passing. LRO show, Malvern show ground, august bank holiday weekend. last year, it was a nice show. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria" - Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno' |
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