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Derek - 24 Sep 2006 01:31 GMT
The lad has managed to take a trip across the ward to the toilets so it
looks like he's on the mend nice one Hamster!
Derek
aghasee - 24 Sep 2006 11:33 GMT
> The lad has managed to take a trip across the ward to the toilets so it
> looks like he's on the mend nice one Hamster!
> Derek

The oh-look-how-dangerous nitwits are already on top of it.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/leaders/story/0,,1879641,00.html
The comments are pretty funny.

http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=105&ArticleID=1783548
Sent him an e-mail telling him to get a life.

It won't take long before 'they' tackle our beloved sport... Sad enough.
Derek - 24 Sep 2006 12:04 GMT
>> The lad has managed to take a trip across the ward to the toilets so it
>> looks like he's on the mend nice one Hamster!
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> It won't take long before 'they' tackle our beloved sport... Sad enough.

I like that disclaimer "As a motoring writer, I suppose I should be an avid
watcher of motoring programmes."   its called your job if you ignore them
you getting money inder false pretenses - bit like the X factor really but
without 3 people to tell you that you appear a useless pratt. I won't pick
holes in the rest of the article sinply not worth the effort.
Derek
Richard Brookman - 24 Sep 2006 12:08 GMT
||| On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:31:14 +0100, Derek
||| <del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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||| http://observer.guardian.co.uk/leaders/story/0,,1879641,00.html
||| The comments are pretty funny.

http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=105&ArticleID=1783548
||| Sent him an e-mail telling him to get a life.
|||
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
|| sinply not worth the effort.
|| Derek

Donations to the YAA here: http://www.justgiving.com/PHRichardHammond

I've just sold the trialler, so £20 of the sale is on it's way there.

(Sorry if this has been posted before, but I didn't see it.)

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Nige - 24 Sep 2006 14:57 GMT
>>>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:31:14 +0100, Derek
>>>> <del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> there.
> (Sorry if this has been posted before, but I didn't see it.)

Given my new hobbies (in my sig) I thought it best to donate!!!

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KTM 520 SX (2001)
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Ian Rawlings - 24 Sep 2006 15:12 GMT
> Given my new hobbies (in my sig) I thought it best to donate!!!

If you're off-roading on them, best take a GPS so you can gasp out the
OS grid co-ordinates so they can find you!  A lorry yard I went to
recently had the OSGB co-ordinates written on the wall in big letters
billed as the "air ambulance location reference", they were quite far
from civilisation.

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Nige - 24 Sep 2006 15:44 GMT
>> Given my new hobbies (in my sig) I thought it best to donate!!!
>
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> letters billed as the "air ambulance location reference", they were
> quite far from civilisation.

The KTM is a Motocross bike, but can be used for pretty much any off road use bar trials riding. Took it
out yesterday & by god it has some power & is very controllable. It's got that much engine compression
you dont seem to need the brakes at all!! The gears are sweet too, only 4 of them to worry about & then
1st really a hill climbing gear. A novice rider could easy scare themsleves to death on something like
that.

I put a quiet exhuast on it as i dont like silly loud 'look at me' pipes & they do not improve
performance anyway.

I'm a sensible riuder anyway & dont take any risks i shouldn't, but i hear you!!!

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Ian Rawlings - 24 Sep 2006 15:47 GMT
> I'm a sensible riuder anyway & dont take any risks i shouldn't, but
> i hear you!!!

..what with numpties putting wire across byways to catch
motorcyclists.  Mind you I've only heard of one such case so far.

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Dom J - 24 Sep 2006 16:12 GMT
> >> Given my new hobbies (in my sig) I thought it best to donate!!!
> >
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> > letters billed as the "air ambulance location reference", they were
> > quite far from civilisation.

Good news on the Hammond front, lets hope he's back driving his Series
1 soon.  All this talk of the H+S nannies is really annoying me.  If
'they' get Top Gear pulled because it's too dangerous then whats
next...hows about Eastenders coz it's so godamn depressing!.  If the
show is that dangerous then how come it's been going for so long?.
This accident is AFAIK the only serious one that has happened.  Word of
warning about OSGB refs and the emergency services.......

Rang up the cops and said that there was a crash on the main road out
of Cheltenham.

"Where abouts exactly Sir?"
Gave them a 6 fig grid ref
"What do those numbers mean sir" said chap in control room
Explained what a grid ref was
"Never heard of that sir, are there any large buildings nearby"
"Er no it's out in the countryside"
"Ah well where is the nearest village then sir?."
Told him and he said..........
"Oh thats not on our system sir"
Argggghhhhhhgggghhhhhh
"Right" says me
"Tell which ever emergency service is coming to drive out of Cheltenham
on the A40 towards Oxford and stop when they see a very upset man
waving a torch at them".

They did find me eventually

Dom J
Ian Rawlings - 24 Sep 2006 16:56 GMT
> Good news on the Hammond front, lets hope he's back driving his Series
> 1 soon.  All this talk of the H+S nannies is really annoying me.  If
> 'they' get Top Gear pulled because it's too dangerous then whats
> next...hows about Eastenders coz it's so godamn depressing!

Given that more people die through suicide than die through car
accidents in this country (according to the beeb anyway, not looked up
official figures) you could probably make quite a convincing case on
logical grounds, unfortunately you'd be up against the hordes of
muddle-headed housewives so logic won't do you any good.

> "What do those numbers mean sir" said chap in control room
> Explained what a grid ref was
> "Never heard of that sir, are there any large buildings nearby"

Bloody hell, doesn't hold out much hope.

Then again pilots have to be a tad more trained than telephone
monkeys, and you can't go by landmarks so much as you can on the
ground so the air ambulance lot should be able to sort it out.  Then
again you have to get through the telephone monkey first!

Mind you at least someone came out!  When my first car locked its rear
axle on a fast road just over the prow of a hill, traffic was swerving
dangerously to dodge it with lots of locked wheels and brown
trousers.  Police didn't give a sh.t.  It was the A36 between Ower and
West Wellow, a notorious accident blackspot extending for many miles.
The roundabout outside my house used to occasionally get power cuts
and when it did, you'd regularly hear the squealing of tyres and a
crunch as cars piled onto the roundabout.  We'd call the police and
they'd not bother coming out to that either, they suggested we stand
outside waving a torch all night or put up reflective notices, like
the ones they have and carry in the backs of the cars they drive
around in for example.  The local bobby had to sod off sharpish
because he got caught shagging a local hardnut's wife and they never
replaced him.

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Dave Liquorice - 24 Sep 2006 17:07 GMT
> Word of warning about OSGB refs and the emergency services.......

Copy that in a letter to the Chief Constable together with time and date
of the call so they can review the tapes. It is not acceptable that their
systems cannot (apparently) accept an NGR. If their systems can handle an
NGR the that operator needs a "refresher" course...

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Dave Liquorice - 24 Sep 2006 16:02 GMT
> Given my new hobbies (in my sig) I thought it best to donate!!!

Is the Yorkshire Air Ambulance the one that is going to come and pick you
out of a wall though? I know the family have requested that donations go
to the YAM but don't forget all the others around the country, would it
not be better to support your local one?

The Great North Air Ambulance has been struggling recently, indeed two of
their three helos have been grounded in the past due to lack of funds...

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Nige - 24 Sep 2006 16:23 GMT
>> Given my new hobbies (in my sig) I thought it best to donate!!!
>
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> two of their three helos have been grounded in the past due to lack
> of funds...

I live in between Leeds &  Bradford, most deffo Yorkshire!!!

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Badger - 24 Sep 2006 18:02 GMT
> I live in between Leeds &  Bradford, most deffo Yorkshire!!!
>
> Nige

Bloody hell mate, you have my utmost sympathies! I had the misfortune to be
in that neck of the woods some years back, having a "reconditioned" ford
granada autobox repaired for the second time at a place called "Sticker Lane
Transmissions" or "Northern Gearbox Exchange" (depending what ad. you
read!).
It was near a roundabout with a McDonalds type place next to it, what a
god-forsaken place, I genuinely felt unsafe just walking down the road
(looking for somewhere to get a pub lunch while the 'box was repaired again)
and that was in broad daylight and I'm 6'1" and heavily built!!
On-topic (ish), I'm heavily involved in motorsport (rally) recovery, some
years back we assisted with a microlight pilot that crashed next to the
hotel we were staying in on the Isle of Mull (we'd been over for the "Tour
of Mull rally"). He offered a relatively sizeable donation to a certain
organisation (within the motor sport world) of which most of us were
members, but we suggested seeing as it was effectively an aviation incident
that he donate to the air ambulance service instead, which he did. Decent
bloke, he also phoned me on my mobile the following year and got 2 rounds in
via his credit card over the phone for us at the hotel!
He keeps threatening to come back across to spectate one year, we said "ok,
but come on the ferry, please."
Badger.
Nige - 24 Sep 2006 18:14 GMT
>> I live in between Leeds &  Bradford, most deffo Yorkshire!!!
>>
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> said "ok, but come on the ferry, please."
> Badger.

hehehe - welcomle to the 'ford!!! It's a fuckhole full of scum & villainy of the lowest proportions.
However, we live MILES away from Stick it in lane (prossys etc) It's Ok round here, local chav estate
around 2 miles away but they aint gonna bother me anymore!!! After the bike nicking incident there is one
doing 12 months, one doing 6 weeks in hospital! Of course, the hospital is nothing to do with me, he
upset some Asians he buys drugs from!

But, you are right, Bradford is just a fuckhole nowadays. We are thinking of moving, but the problem is -
it's all the same in this shitridden pukebag of a cuntry mate.

Bring back flogging i say, also national service & old sparky might help a bit too.

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Ian Rawlings - 24 Sep 2006 18:26 GMT
> But, you are right, Bradford is just a fuckhole nowadays. We are
> thinking of moving, but the problem is - it's all the same in this
> shitridden pukebag of a cuntry mate.

No it's not mush, just in the cities.  If you get out of the cities
you quickly leave the chavs and other pond life behind.  Out here in
Dorset people don't even lock their doors half the time, our bobbies
cover massive areas because essentially there's bugger all crime.  I
lived in Reading for 6 years and I'll never live in another city
unless I'm forced to by circumstances beyond my control.

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Nige - 24 Sep 2006 18:39 GMT
>> But, you are right, Bradford is just a fuckhole nowadays. We are
>> thinking of moving, but the problem is - it's all the same in this
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> lived in Reading for 6 years and I'll never live in another city
> unless I'm forced to by circumstances beyond my control.

Dorset, sweet, lulworth cove, one of my best places in the UK.

We stayed at the Castle Inn, top food!

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Dave Liquorice - 24 Sep 2006 20:38 GMT
> No it's not mush, just in the cities.  If you get out of the cities
> you quickly leave the chavs and other pond life behind.  Out here in
> Dorset ....

Hear, hear, same up on the North Pennines. There was a mugging last
month, first one I've heard about in 7 years of being up here and not
heard stories of others previous to that. Regular crime is fairly petty,
theft from motors/sheds/barns or minor criminal damage. Even those are
currently running at about 2 or 3 incidents/month (yes month).

> I'll never live in another city unless I'm forced to by circumstances
> beyond my control.

Same here, I fully intend to die here and be scattered over the paddock.

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Ian Rawlings - 24 Sep 2006 21:28 GMT
> Hear, hear, same up on the North Pennines. There was a mugging last
> month,

A what?

<looks it up in dictionary>

Criminy!  What'll they think of next!  Horseless carriages?

> first one I've heard about in 7 years of being up here and not
> heard stories of others previous to that. Regular crime is fairly petty,
> theft from motors/sheds/barns or minor criminal damage. Even those are
> currently running at about 2 or 3 incidents/month (yes month).

In the village (no not *that* village number 6) there's a crime
warning regarding a spate of burglaries in the area, there were two in
the space of 4 months!  We'll all be murdered in our beds!  The "area"
covers almost half of North Dorset.  The report was last updated 8
months ago ;-)

> Same here, I fully intend to die here and be scattered over the paddock.

Not sure I'll die here, not enough parking space for toys!  I've got
four and only have space for another two with only covered space for
one :-(  Now that's a crime.

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Richard Brookman - 27 Sep 2006 19:58 GMT
||| Hear, hear, same up on the North Pennines. There was a mugging last
||| month,

|| In the village (no not *that* village number 6) there's a crime
|| warning regarding a spate of burglaries in the area, there were two
|| in the space of 4 months!  We'll all be murdered in our beds!  The
|| "area" covers almost half of North Dorset.  The report was last
|| updated 8 months ago ;-)

The last time we saw the police in this area (we're not even in the village,
strictly), apart from the visits to check my shotgun security, was about 8
years ago, when a garage was broken into and *nothing stolen*.  Having been
brought up in Nige's neck of the woods, it's a dream, and like others I
would never consider going back to the city.

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Austin Shackles - 27 Sep 2006 22:18 GMT
>||| Hear, hear, same up on the North Pennines. There was a mugging last
>||| month,
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>brought up in Nige's neck of the woods, it's a dream, and like others I
>would never consider going back to the city.

Don't you get the dodgy Irish boys nicking chainsaws and stuff over your way
then?  There was a spate of it around here.  Mind you, a couple of the
locals caught 'em out - one of them was offered a saw he recognised as
belonging to the other.  He claimed not to want it, but that he knew a bloke
who might, then rang up the other chap, who came round and said "that's me
fookin' saw, yer bastard" and they then proceeded to intimidate the would-be
saw-seller somewhat.
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Torak - 24 Sep 2006 21:57 GMT
>>No it's not mush, just in the cities.  If you get out of the cities
>>you quickly leave the chavs and other pond life behind.  Out here in
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> theft from motors/sheds/barns or minor criminal damage. Even those are
> currently running at about 2 or 3 incidents/month (yes month).

I'm up in SW Scotland, and the local paper is filled with crime reports
every week.

All right, so most of them are things like "Joe Bloggs, 34, of 27 Random
Terrace, was cautioned by the Sheriff on Tuesday for failing to wear a
seatbelt", but still.

And we had a murder a few years back. Someone chased down his dad in the
Co-op car park and decapitated him with multiple blows with a baseball bat.

Other than that, though, it's just boy racers in their pimped
tossermobiles[1], and the drug capital of Scotland....

[1] - I've seen one - a metallic blue *van* - with a spoiler. Except it
was obviously too tall for his garage, because the spoiler had been
lowered to be flush with the roof
Dave Liquorice - 25 Sep 2006 21:46 GMT
> I'm up in SW Scotland, and the local paper is filled with crime reports
> every week.

You must live somewhere urbanised to *have* a local paper. We have a
locally produced quarterly news letter. Of the commercial papers the
weekly Cumberland & Westmorland Herald is the only one that regulary
produces stories for this area, not many crime related ones though and
compared to the likes of Penrith and Carlisle, none.

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Torak - 26 Sep 2006 00:17 GMT
>>I'm up in SW Scotland, and the local paper is filled with crime reports
>>every week.
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> produces stories for this area, not many crime related ones though and
> compared to the likes of Penrith and Carlisle, none.

The Galloway News - published every Thursday. :-)
Dave Liquorice - 24 Sep 2006 20:05 GMT
> I live in between Leeds &  Bradford, most deffo Yorkshire!!!

Fairy Nuff...  B-)

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Nige - 24 Sep 2006 20:17 GMT
>> I live in between Leeds &  Bradford, most deffo Yorkshire!!!
>
> Fairy Nuff...  B-)

Ney bother mate!!

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TonyB - 24 Sep 2006 22:17 GMT
We've had one robbery in our village in 15 years.
Someone took the number of the getaway car and the police went round to the
registered owners address to inform him. They found the car parked
outside the house and the lads at the kitchen table counting the dosh.

We laughed until we pissed ourselves.
TonyB
bumble101 - 26 Sep 2006 09:10 GMT
Had one robbery in 8 years where a gang one windy night went through
our village in Northamptonshire of 70 house and cleaned out a few
unsecured sheds/barns of machinery, tools etc.

A local did spy someone fly tipping at a farm gate took down number and
rang a neighbour who works in Special Branch. Got the address,
collected a few other neighbours together, scooped up all the rubbish
and tipped it bag by bag all over his front garden in full view of the
culprit and his neighbours. He was too shocked to speak up or complain
and I don't think he will be fly tipping again, especially as they also
walked across the road and had a drink in his local after all their
hard work!

Neil

> We've had one robbery in our village in 15 years.
> Someone took the number of the getaway car and the police went round to the
> registered owners address to inform him. They found the car parked
> outside the house and the lads at the kitchen table counting the dosh.
Dave Liquorice - 28 Sep 2006 21:58 GMT
> A local did spy someone fly tipping at a farm gate took down number and
> rang a neighbour who works in Special Branch. Got the address,

Oh naughty...

> ... collected a few other neighbours together, scooped up all the
> rubbish and tipped it bag by bag all over his front garden in full view
> of the culprit and his neighbours.

Yes there is a certain amount of "civil law" used around these parts as
well, also with the full knowledge of the local constabulary.

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