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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / September 2006

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Austin- New 4x4 Transit

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Bob Hobden - 27 Sep 2006 18:09 GMT
I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a proper
capable 4x4 Van.
You won't have to make one now Austin. :-)

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Austin Shackles - 27 Sep 2006 18:40 GMT
>I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
>drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a proper
>capable 4x4 Van.
>You won't have to make one now Austin. :-)

bugger that - it'll cost an arm and a leg.  You got a website or similar
with any info?

's about time someone did.  Ford should have the makings of it anyway, in
that the current transit comes either front or rear-drive.  Not sure,
though, if the front-drive one doesn't have a transverse engine, which would
make it more tricky.

since new defender is using the tranny engine and box, it's a logical step.

now, presuming they build it, how can I afford one?
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Derek - 27 Sep 2006 20:22 GMT
>>I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
>>drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a proper
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> now, presuming they build it, how can I afford one?

Not that there are many about but Ford Dealers Countytrac did make a 4x4
Transit County comversion never saw a minibus version just waterboard vans
about round Buxton  http://www.mjallen.co.uk/category.php?categoryid=5

Derek
Huw - 28 Sep 2006 00:55 GMT
>>> I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
>>> drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> http://www.mjallen.co.uk/category.php?categoryid=5
> Derek

County ceased trading back in the mid to late 1980's so any recent sightings
will have been fairly ancient vehicles or not County conversions.

Huw
Austin Shackles - 28 Sep 2006 07:40 GMT
>County ceased trading back in the mid to late 1980's so any recent sightings
>will have been fairly ancient vehicles or not County conversions.

someone must have been building 'em - there are "county" transits up to the
90s.  There's a shagged L-plater (93, ish) on ebay at the moment.  I imagine
the specilist parts are getting difficult now.  The front axle is a Dana, so
should be easy enough, but I don't know what transfer box etc. they used.
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EMB - 28 Sep 2006 08:38 GMT
>> Not that there are many about but Ford Dealers Countytrac did make a
>> 4x4 Transit County comversion never saw a minibus version just
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> County ceased trading back in the mid to late 1980's so any recent sightings
> will have been fairly ancient vehicles or not County conversions.

Countytrac are still trading - as per the above link.

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Derek - 28 Sep 2006 22:40 GMT
>>>> I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
>>>> drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Huw
er click the link Huw  mate M J Allen is the firm that bought them out and
still produce the County
Derek
Huw - 29 Sep 2006 00:23 GMT
>>>>> I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put
>>>>> the drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> out and still produce the County
> Derek

Well they own the brand and seem to convert a few Transits apparently. The
original County Commercial Cars was killed off by trends and Ford's policy
back then. County tractors are now soughtby collectors and some good
examples, even from the 1980's, fetch silly money at auctions. An 1884 is
now probably worth over £40,000. It cost 10k less when new less than 20
years ago.
Bet their transits don't relitively fetch as much.

Huw
EMB - 29 Sep 2006 01:24 GMT
> Well they own the brand and seem to convert a few Transits apparently. The
> original County Commercial Cars was killed off by trends and Ford's policy
> back then. County tractors are now soughtby collectors and some good
> examples, even from the 1980's, fetch silly money at auctions. An 1884 is
> now probably worth over £40,000. It cost 10k less when new less than 20

Bloody hell - there might be a quid to be made exporting the things from
here - the last one I saw for sale needed a coat of paint and was
advertised at £7000.

You'd probably not want any of the fleet in the links below - the reason
is obvious once you see them.

http://proteus.orcon.net.nz/county1.jpg
http://proteus.orcon.net.nz/county2.jpg

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Austin Shackles - 29 Sep 2006 07:42 GMT
>Well they own the brand and seem to convert a few Transits apparently. The
>original County Commercial Cars was killed off by trends and Ford's policy
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>years ago.
>Bet their transits don't relitively fetch as much.

The transits shift fast and fetch high prices compared to normal ones.
rarity value, innit.

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Dougal - 29 Sep 2006 22:57 GMT
>>>>>>I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put
>>>>>>the drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> Huw

Two County 1184s - ex-MOD with around 500 hours on each sold recently
for £25,500 each.
icky - 27 Sep 2006 21:20 GMT
>>I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
>>drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a proper
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> now, presuming they build it, how can I afford one?

I am sure they all ready have made them, I used to see couple of utility 4x4
transits knocking about british gas  I think It was a few years back though
so it could of been anything I supose, too many stellas have flowed since
then ;-)
Icky
Nige - 27 Sep 2006 21:24 GMT
>>>I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
>>>drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> since then ;-)
> Icky

They have, i remember the blue & white ones. Looked odd!! They where deffo
trannys!

Nige
Dougal - 27 Sep 2006 22:02 GMT
>>>>I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
>>>>drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Nige

Probably County conversions.

I've been struggling to find something from the horse's mouth, so to
speak - Ford's site is a disaster. This is the best so far:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/print.cfm/ID/2060920.004/lang/eng
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/21/ford-transit-gets-4wd/
Nige - 27 Sep 2006 22:17 GMT
>>>>>I think someone has been reading these pages as Ford are to put the
>>>>>drivetrain of the new Defender underneath the new Transit to make a
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> http://www.worldcarfans.com/print.cfm/ID/2060920.004/lang/eng
> http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/21/ford-transit-gets-4wd/

No matey, there were aincient!
Austin Shackles - 28 Sep 2006 18:19 GMT
>> Probably County conversions.
>>
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>
>No matey, there were aincient!

nono, the old ones are County conversions, the new ones alluded to in the
above website are Ford's new AWD tranny.

I still fancy building one.  Ford are gonna want an arm and a leg for new
ones, and they won't be down to my price range for at least 8 years...
that's if many get sold - if the price premium for 4WD is too high, it'll be
the same story as the County conversions - only the leccy board and such
will buy, and then only as few as they can get away with.  This is why it's
so difficult finding a second-hander.

plus I like the idea of using the 110 drivetrain and suspension - cheap,
easy to get parts.

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Austin Shackles - 27 Sep 2006 22:33 GMT
>Probably County conversions.

undoubtedly - no-one except utility companies etc. could afford 'em, they
were horrendously expensive new.

>I've been struggling to find something from the horse's mouth, so to
>speak - Ford's site is a disaster.

No kidding.  I looked at the spec sheet for the transits and it has last
year's engine details.

>This is the best so far:
>http://www.worldcarfans.com/print.cfm/ID/2060920.004/lang/eng

nice description of how it works.  I don't think that's what the defender
will be using in 2007 though.  Mind, it may show a way forward for LR
products such as the freeloader - having developed a cunning system like
that it's likely to appear on other ford products.

Mind, from the pictures, it's not going to have the same sort of off-road
ability as mine - more aimed at the grassy fields and snowy roads and the
like.  As such, it'd no doubt be very successful, provided it doesn't end up
costing too much more.
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