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Julian Pollard - 13 Oct 2006 20:52 GMT

Anyone got one for sale? Are they really light on power comsumption? Could
I boost battery performance with a solar panel and if so what specification?

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VentureOverland - 16 Oct 2006 11:18 GMT

>Anyone got one for sale? Are they really light on power comsumption? Could
>I boost battery performance with a solar panel and if so what specification?

Hi there,
We consider the ENGELs to be (probably) the best fridge in the
world...Thats why we only sell the ENGEL's, but not used ones.

http://www.ventureoverland.com/Engel_Fridges.html

They have fantastically low power use.

If you are in two minds as to whether or not to splash out the cash on
one... Do it. You'll not regret it and it will provide excellent
service for years to come and just about all the abuse you could care
to throw at it.

As for size... The MT-35 (32L) fridges are cheaper than the MT-45
(perhaps obviously) but you can't get 2L bottles stood up inside them.
The MT-45 (40L) on the other hand allows this and is the same
footprint as the 32L.

We sell many more MT-45's than MT-35's for this very reason.

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Jon
VentureOverland
http://www.ventureoverland.com
Regards,

Jon
VentureOverland
http://www.ventureoverland.com

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William Tasso - 16 Oct 2006 12:18 GMT

>> Anyone got one for sale? Are they really light on power comsumption?
>> Could
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>
> They have fantastically low power use.

Excellent information - thank you.

except ... where are the prices? (don't be shy <g>)

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bumble101 - 16 Oct 2006 15:11 GMT

I've run an Engel 40L for the last 7 years, 5 of which were in Africa
inc 18 months Trans-Africa. A compressor fridge is the only choice and
they come from Engel, Minus 40, National Luna and Waeco. Minus 40 have
a stainless steel enclosure which is attractive, Waeco have a plastic
outside which is not as durable. Otherwise there is not much between
them. I retrofitted a 24V cooling fan from a PC into mine to assist
with air movement across the heat sink, the more modern, for the last 3
years have them as standard.

Our 45 kg Rottweiler lay on ours for 18 months, coolest place in a
FC101 Radio Body in the desert! It is still going strong and is used
occasionally as an extra cold party fridge at home and then the
occasional trip. I made an insulated jacket with 15mm closed cell foam
and canvass cover. This protects the fridge surface and increases the
marginal insulation.

Depending on the amount of time you intend to be stopped without
driving and the ambient, you need to think about a second deep cycle
battery and split charger. In the UK ambient are low so it doesn't work
very hard. In Africa, ambient inside the vehicle were 60 deg.C and it
still managed to make ice but ran most of the time. Peak current is
about 3.5 Amp, but it switches on and off. If you want to park up for
more than a day look into at least a 75W solar panel. I used to turn
mine off a night when stocked full with frozen stuff at the bottom and
cold drinks on top. Running a fridge on a trip becomes an art.

Again, let us know what your intended use is and I can give some
applicable advice.

Check internet prices in Africa and Oz, the UK importer used to be
incredibly greedy and offered one to me at 'cost', until I pointed out
that his price was the same as retail in Oz and Africa. A friend
shipped one over from SA and it was still cheaper than the UK.

Neil

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EMB - 16 Oct 2006 20:55 GMT

> Check internet prices in Africa and Oz, the UK importer used to be
> incredibly greedy and offered one to me at 'cost', until I pointed out
> that his price was the same as retail in Oz and Africa. A friend
> shipped one over from SA and it was still cheaper than the UK.

I've just priced an MT45 ex the Oz distributor - the recommended retail
works out a whole £14 cheaper than the price Jon has quoted.

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VentureOverland - 16 Oct 2006 15:50 GMT

>>> Anyone got one for sale? Are they really light on power comsumption?
>>> Could
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>
>except ... where are the prices? (don't be shy <g>)

We keep prices off the website intentionally:-
For two reasons, firstly, due to constantly changing buy prices (they
do often come down as well as go up). We then pass any benefits
available onto the customer.

Secondly, given the volatility of the price its hard enough to keep
track of prices without having one other place to update also!

Thirdly... Some of the ENGEL products are not always available! Prime
example is the 27L fridge... Last time a customer wanted one I
couldn't source one (competitively) from anywhere in Europe, he bought
an MT-35 instead which is (from experience) always readily available.

Currently:
    ENGEL MT-35            £395.00 inc VAT
    ENGEL MT-45            £499.38 inc VAT
    ENGEL Fridge Cover (Thermal)    £125.00 inc VAT
    ENGEL Slide-Lok            £115.00 inc VAT

Hope this helps...

Regards,
Jon
VentureOverland
http://www.ventureoverland.com
Regards,

Jon
VentureOverland
http://www.ventureoverland.com

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Lee_D - 16 Oct 2006 15:56 GMT

VentureOverland <info.nospam@ventureoverland.com> uttered summat
worrerz funny about:

> Currently:
> ENGEL MT-35 £395.00 inc VAT
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> Hope this helps...

I'm sure they are good but I'd be revising my plans to encompass an Artic
expo at those prices.

;-)

Don't rule out making your own fridge. A few have done it on the Self Build
motor caravan Forum

Lee D

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VentureOverland - 16 Oct 2006 16:00 GMT

>We keep prices off the website intentionally:-
>For two reasons, firstly, due to constantly changing buy prices (they
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>Hope this helps...

>Regards,
>
>Jon
>VentureOverland
>http://www.ventureoverland.com

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Jon
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Richard Brookman - 16 Oct 2006 19:44 GMT

||| except ... where are the prices? (don't be shy <g>)
||
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|| bought an MT-35 instead which is (from experience) always readily
|| available.

And fourthly, you don't frighten the punters away before they can get hooked
on the product.

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Simon Isaacs - 16 Oct 2006 18:03 GMT

>Anyone got one for sale? Are they really light on power comsumption? Could
>I boost battery performance with a solar panel and if so what specification?

Martyn has one, swears by it, runs all weekend no probs normally!

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Mother - 17 Oct 2006 11:43 GMT

>Martyn has one, swears by it, runs all weekend no probs normally!

Yeah, and if I could only stop Charlotte filling full of foodie stuff,
it'd be much more popular ;-)

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Simon Isaacs - 17 Oct 2006 21:30 GMT

>>Martyn has one, swears by it, runs all weekend no probs normally!
>
>Yeah, and if I could only stop Charlotte filling full of foodie stuff,
>it'd be much more popular ;-)

its you who wants the belly pork to BBQ.......

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Austin Shackles - 18 Oct 2006 09:25 GMT

>>>Martyn has one, swears by it, runs all weekend no probs normally!
>>
>>Yeah, and if I could only stop Charlotte filling full of foodie stuff,
>>it'd be much more popular ;-)
>
>its you who wants the belly pork to BBQ.......

a fair point, and well made.

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Mother - 18 Oct 2006 15:51 GMT

>>>Yeah, and if I could only stop Charlotte filling full of foodie stuff,
>>>it'd be much more popular ;-)
>>
>>its you who wants the belly pork to BBQ.......
>
>a fair point, and well made.

Yeah, alright, apart from the bellypork, what did the Romans ever do
for us?

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Simon Isaacs - 18 Oct 2006 20:12 GMT

>>>>Yeah, and if I could only stop Charlotte filling full of foodie stuff,
>>>>it'd be much more popular ;-)
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>Yeah, alright, apart from the bellypork, what did the Romans ever do
>for us?

gave us all those lovely roman roads, which we used to be able to
drive before Mr Bliar and NERC.....grrrrrrrr

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Mother - 17 Oct 2006 11:35 GMT

>Are they really light on power comsumption? Could
>I boost battery performance with a solar panel and if so what specification?

I've had an MT45 for 5 odd years and wouldn't be without it. Very low
(~2.5A) power drain - easily powered by a large solar panel. Best
prices tend to be from marine suppliers - for both fridge and solar
equipment. I'm actually thinking of getting another, larger model to
use a a freezer on my boat (All the larger Engel models can also act
as a three star freezer).

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Julian Pollard - 17 Oct 2006 18:18 GMT

Crikey (as Boris Johnson would say!)!

I didn't realise what sort of string I would start!1

Actually I have more in mind the 15 litre one to keep beers cool in summer -
not touring the world outside this Sceptic Isle!!!

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VentureOverland - 18 Oct 2006 08:12 GMT

>Crikey (as Boris Johnson would say!)!
>
>I didn't realise what sort of string I would start!1
>
>Actually I have more in mind the 15 litre one to keep beers cool in summer -
>not touring the world outside this Sceptic Isle!!!

Julian,
If your after a 15L, drop me a mail and I'll see what I can do for
you.

http://www.ventureoverland.com/Contact_us.html

Regards,
Jon
VentureOverland
http://www.ventureoverland.com
Regards,

Jon
VentureOverland
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Neil - 30 Oct 2006 03:20 GMT

In that case, consider the Waeco CF18(18litres).

I have had one of these for quite a few years now. It lives in the
90, and is used a lot. Not only for recreational use but as a
refrigerator for shopping, or a freezer(-20C) again for shopping.
Current consumption is similar to most 12v compressor fridges - i.e.
around 1.5 Amp.

Got mine as an ex-demo one from a show for about £200. It's VERY
useful and gets down to 5C from 20C in about 5 minutes.

HTH

Neil

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