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Mother - 16 Oct 2006 17:06 GMT
Haven't you all been busy...

It'd take me months to catch up - thank goodness for the 'mark all
read' function!   ;-)
Tom Woods - 16 Oct 2006 17:18 GMT
>Haven't you all been busy...
>
>It'd take me months to catch up - thank goodness for the 'mark all
>read' function!   ;-)

Glad you're back and hopefully improved! :)

The fat jokes just havent been the same without you! :p
Tom Woods - 16 Oct 2006 17:18 GMT
>>Haven't you all been busy...
>>
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>
>The fat jokes just havent been the same without you! :p

And how many of the 4738 posts have been Austins? :D
Ian Rawlings - 16 Oct 2006 17:47 GMT
> It'd take me months to catch up - thank goodness for the 'mark all
> read' function!   ;-)

Look out, he's back, hopefully all shipshape again!  There have been a
few "what's happened to old whatsisface" posts recently.

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Derek - 16 Oct 2006 18:20 GMT
> Haven't you all been busy...
>
> It'd take me months to catch up - thank goodness for the 'mark all
> read' function!   ;-)

Welcome back Martyn hope you didn't need to go paddling on your travels (
ruddy plastic bags )
Derek
Lee_D - 16 Oct 2006 18:29 GMT
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> uttered summat
worrerz funny about:
> Haven't you all been busy...
>
> It'd take me months to catch up - thank goodness for the 'mark all
> read' function!   ;-)

I'm sorry, do we know you? :-)

Hope yer feeling better.

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Nige - 16 Oct 2006 18:48 GMT
> Haven't you all been busy...
>
> It'd take me months to catch up - thank goodness for the 'mark all
> read' function!   ;-)

Hi Martyn, how are you mate??

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EMB - 16 Oct 2006 20:16 GMT
> Haven't you all been busy...
>
> It'd take me months to catch up - thank goodness for the 'mark all
> read' function!   ;-)

Good to see you back Martyn.

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Richard Brookman - 16 Oct 2006 20:22 GMT
|| Mother wrote:
||| Haven't you all been busy...
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|| --
|| EMB

And since you are sitting at the PC anyway, let us know the story.  (We're a
gossipy bunch.)

Here's hoping for a speedy relief to your necessities.  Good to see you
back.

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Mother - 17 Oct 2006 08:58 GMT
>And since you are sitting at the PC anyway, let us know the story.  (We're a
>gossipy bunch.)

Not really a great deal to tell.  I had a few 'issues' a few years ago
which cropped up again toward the end of last year. All sorted quite
easily, but a by product was another issue with my left eye falling
apart.  That too was sorted in August, with some reconstruction and a
new lens.  

All done and dusted now, taking a little time to settle, with a few
minor complications resulting in a couple of unexpected returns to
hospital but otherwise, fine.  Fine enough for Charlotte and I to take
our narrow boat out for a trip involving 93 locks and, by a bizarre
quirk of fate, 101 miles a couple of weeks ago.  Can't have been that
bad as I've no bills from British Waterways for repairs to locks or
bridges :-)
Austin Shackles - 17 Oct 2006 20:59 GMT
>>And since you are sitting at the PC anyway, let us know the story.  (We're a
>>gossipy bunch.)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>bad as I've no bills from British Waterways for repairs to locks or
>bridges :-)

git...

I've a plot afoot to do leeds and liverpool, hopefully next year.  Whether I
actually start at liverpool depends - could cheat and start at Wigan,
thereby travelling on the road to wigan pier, I assume.

Way I see it, wigan-leeds-wigan in 2 weeks would be a nice pace.  1 week
should be do-able, but then it's a bit like a challenge, and less like a
holiday.

liverpool-leeds-liverpool in a week would eb a *real* challenge.

now, anyone know if you can hire a motor-and-butty?  That'd be fun...

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Nige - 17 Oct 2006 21:28 GMT
>>> And since you are sitting at the PC anyway, let us know the
>>> story.  (We're a gossipy bunch.)
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> now, anyone know if you can hire a motor-and-butty?  That'd be
> fun...

Its about 20,000 miles long i think matey!!! If you do it, let me know, i only live walking distance from
it & 15 minutes drive from 5 rise locks at Bingley!

Nige

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Austin Shackles - 18 Oct 2006 09:40 GMT
>Its about 20,000 miles long i think matey!!! If you do it, let me know, i only live walking distance from
>it & 15 minutes drive from 5 rise locks at Bingley!

I think your units have gone adrift somewhere...

Part of the point is to go up/down Bingley.

It's also a bit of the network we never did when I were a lad.

'course, the other bit we never did ('cos it were closed at the time) is the
K&A.

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Nige - 18 Oct 2006 18:45 GMT
>> Its about 20,000 miles long i think matey!!! If you do it, let me
>> know, i only live walking distance from it & 15 minutes drive from
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> 'course, the other bit we never did ('cos it were closed at the
> time) is the K&A.

I was only kidding matey, it is a long & winding 'road' though!!

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EMB - 18 Oct 2006 20:06 GMT
> I was only kidding matey, it is a long & winding 'road' though!!

For some reason I'm having visions of someone jumping canals on the KTM.

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Nige - 18 Oct 2006 21:27 GMT
>> I was only kidding matey, it is a long & winding 'road' though!!
>
> For some reason I'm having visions of someone jumping canals on the
> KTM.

Could easy do it too! But thta's anti-social!

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EMB - 18 Oct 2006 22:09 GMT
>>> I was only kidding matey, it is a long & winding 'road' though!!
>> For some reason I'm having visions of someone jumping canals on the
>> KTM.
>
> Could easy do it too! But thta's anti-social!

Nicking your KTM is anti-social, jumping canals and suchlike is just
good old-fashioned fun although the PC w.nkers running the place would
rather we thought otherwise.

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Nige - 18 Oct 2006 22:16 GMT
>>>> I was only kidding matey, it is a long & winding 'road' though!!
>>> For some reason I'm having visions of someone jumping canals on
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> good old-fashioned fun although the PC w.nkers running the place
> would rather we thought otherwise.

I know, but what you gonna do, apart from what I did to get it back............................

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Mother - 18 Oct 2006 22:53 GMT
>I know, but what you gonna do, apart from what I did to get it back............................

I think you mean, "What SOMEONE ELSE did to get it back" don't you?
Nige - 18 Oct 2006 22:56 GMT
>> I know, but what you gonna do, apart from what I did to get it
>> back............................
>
> I think you mean, "What SOMEONE ELSE did to get it back" don't you?

Of course!

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Mother - 18 Oct 2006 16:13 GMT
>Its about 20,000 miles long i think matey!!!

No, it only seems like it (especially as a lot of it involves
Lancashire!)    ;-)
Richard Brookman - 19 Oct 2006 19:55 GMT
|| i only live walking distance from it & 15 minutes drive from 5
|| rise locks at Bingley!

Ah, the five rise locks at Bingley!  I spent hours there when the kids were
little, getting out of the ex-in-laws house for a "little walk" with the
push-chair.  Lovely spot.

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Mother - 18 Oct 2006 16:12 GMT
>Way I see it, wigan-leeds-wigan in 2 weeks would be a nice pace.  1 week
>should be do-able, but then it's a bit like a challenge, and less like a
>holiday.

Wigan to Skipton = 63 Miles 56 Locks
Skipton to Leeds = 29 Miles 29 Locks

Total: 92 Miles 84 Locks EACH WAY,
Trip = 184 Miles 168 Locks.

Average cruising speed = ~2MPH - Therefore 92 Hours
Average Lock = 15 minutes - therefore 42 hours
Total trip hours = 134 Hours

>liverpool-leeds-liverpool in a week would eb a *real* challenge.

Liverpool to Wigan is a mere 36 Miles and 6 Locks :-)

>now, anyone know if you can hire a motor-and-butty?  That'd be fun...

Almost nobody will ever rent you a boat and butty (I'm not sure you'd
cope with a butty actually - they do nasty things when you're not
looking!).
Austin Shackles - 18 Oct 2006 18:18 GMT
>Almost nobody will ever rent you a boat and butty (I'm not sure you'd
>cope with a butty actually - they do nasty things when you're not
>looking!).

I do have a bit of previous experience, albeit not with a butty.  But that'd
be half the fun.  Besides, at least one chap I had in mind inviting along
(assuming he makes a good recover from a rather nasty peritonitis -
currently in horsepiddle) has quite a bit of experience, and I can just see
him as "skipper", ordering the rest of us menial crew about.

Used to be able to rent "camping cruisers", wot were a work boat with bunks,
and canvas top.  Now they were fun.

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Mother - 18 Oct 2006 18:42 GMT
>Used to be able to rent "camping cruisers", wot were a work boat with bunks,
>and canvas top.  Now they were fun.

Camping barges are still available, however many were classed as
unsafe, other just got trashed.  They come up for sale quite a lot,
even seen a few on eBay.  As they're unpowered, have not gas or leccie
(built into the boat) they are exempt from the Boat Safety Scheme, as
a consequence many are rough, rotton, death-traps.  Having said that,
many are still well maintained and for the lucky 'group leader', have
a very tidy and comfortable boatmans cabin.
Derek - 18 Oct 2006 23:11 GMT
>>Way I see it, wigan-leeds-wigan in 2 weeks would be a nice pace.  1 week
>>should be do-able, but then it's a bit like a challenge, and less like a
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> cope with a butty actually - they do nasty things when you're not
> looking!).

Do you not fancy Ashton -Huddersfield- Rochdale ( I never did it as the
Huddersfield still terminated at Ashton when I was boating) fabulous
scenery!
Derek
Mother - 19 Oct 2006 09:28 GMT
>Do you not fancy Ashton -Huddersfield- Rochdale ( I never did it as the
>Huddersfield still terminated at Ashton when I was boating) fabulous
>scenery!

We're bringing the good ship "MUSN Grumble" back to Sheffield next
year and have a dilemma as to the route from its current mooring near
Rugby.

We could go via Grand Union and Braunston Tunnel (2,042 yards) then up
the Leicester section toward the Trent etc...

Or, go via Coventry canal, up the Trent and Mersey to Stoke, then
through Harecastle Tunnel (2,926 yards), up the Macclesfield Canal to
Aston, then Huddersfields Narrow, through the recently re-opened
Standedge Tunnel (5,698 yards) etc.

Prolly the latter methinks.
Austin Shackles - 19 Oct 2006 12:35 GMT
>>Do you not fancy Ashton -Huddersfield- Rochdale ( I never did it as the
>>Huddersfield still terminated at Ashton when I was boating) fabulous
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>
>Prolly the latter methinks.

definitely.  I can see I'll have to get a new map.  The one we have here is
not visible ATM - just found "Stanford's Canoeing Map of England and Wales",
showing canals and rivers suitable for navigation by canoes and other light
craft.

somewhere, we've got the equivalent for bigger boats, but it's at least 30
years out of date.

Question is, are you going to leg the boat through the tunnel(s)?  That's
something I want to do, soemtime, just for the sake of being able to say
that I've done it.
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Mother - 19 Oct 2006 18:56 GMT
>somewhere, we've got the equivalent for bigger boats, but it's at least 30
>years out of date.

Get the Nicholson Inland Waterways map - about a fiver or so ISTR.

>Question is, are you going to leg the boat through the tunnel(s)?  That's
>something I want to do, soemtime, just for the sake of being able to say
>that I've done it.

It's actually frowned upon to do this in many tunnels.  Standedge has
to be booked and they tow you through with a leccie boat.  I'm not
sure I'd want to leg it through some of the tunnels anyway - as
they're pretty grim what with the water leaking through the roof and
the exhaust residue from motor boats that wouldn't have been around in
the days of the professional leggers :-(
Austin Shackles - 19 Oct 2006 19:13 GMT
>It's actually frowned upon to do this in many tunnels.  Standedge has
>to be booked and they tow you through with a leccie boat.  I'm not
>sure I'd want to leg it through some of the tunnels anyway - as
>they're pretty grim what with the water leaking through the roof and
>the exhaust residue from motor boats that wouldn't have been around in
>the days of the professional leggers :-(

with boots?  bootleggers?
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Tom Woods - 19 Oct 2006 22:35 GMT
>>Do you not fancy Ashton -Huddersfield- Rochdale ( I never did it as the
>>Huddersfield still terminated at Ashton when I was boating) fabulous
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>year and have a dilemma as to the route from its current mooring near
>Rugby.

I presume you named it? that name cant have been a coincidence :)
Mother - 20 Oct 2006 19:09 GMT
>I presume you named it? that name cant have been a coincidence :)

It was the obvious choice really :-)
Tom Woods - 31 Oct 2006 00:25 GMT
>>I presume you named it? that name cant have been a coincidence :)
>
>It was the obvious choice really :-)

its a good one! definitely a narrowboat name!
Tom Woods - 18 Oct 2006 22:19 GMT
>now, anyone know if you can hire a motor-and-butty?  That'd be fun...

I have a mental image of Austin driving a very large crusty baguette
with a motor on the back! :)

(what is a butty in the boating context?)
Mother - 18 Oct 2006 22:54 GMT
>I have a mental image of Austin driving a very large crusty baguette
>with a motor on the back! :)

More like a hot-dog?

>(what is a butty in the boating context?)

A trailer.
Tom Woods - 19 Oct 2006 01:33 GMT
>>I have a mental image of Austin driving a very large crusty baguette
>>with a motor on the back! :)
>
>More like a hot-dog?

I was thinking crustier so that the hull had some strength! :)

>>(what is a butty in the boating context?)
>
>A trailer.

hmm. never thought that a (residential/recreational) barge would need
a trailer!
Mother - 19 Oct 2006 09:32 GMT
>>>(what is a butty in the boating context?)
>>
>>A trailer.
>
>hmm. never thought that a (residential/recreational) barge would need
>a trailer!

Have you ever seen the contents of a womans' handbag???

Actually, the butty is more generally associated with working boats.
Austin Shackles - 19 Oct 2006 09:52 GMT
>>>I have a mental image of Austin driving a very large crusty baguette
>>>with a motor on the back! :)
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>hmm. never thought that a (residential/recreational) barge would need
>a trailer!

once they fitted working boats with engines, someone worked out that they
could tow another unpowered boat (same as they used to use when they were
horse-drawn, more or less) and haul more cargo.  The butty would haul more
cargo than the motor, on account of not carrying an engine, and losing space
to the engine room.

while visiting some friends in Cheshire, on the way to a handy pub, we went
to see this:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=357820&y=359020&z=3st=4&ar=Y

and found a middle-aged couple with a very nice boat just approaching.  took
the opportunity to educate the various small people we had along about how
locks worked, and got them opening and shutting gates.  several of the big
kids also played...

the boat was a cracker, with a lovely-sounding engine which I think the chap
said was 80 years old, sounded like a single-cylinder 4-stroke running at
about 150 rpm or so.  I was tempted to ask for a look at it, but thought
that was a bit cheeky.  His missus did a much better job than I reckon I
would have at getting into the lock through one gate, too, with no sign of
cheats like bow thrusters.

it's rather a short staircase, mind.  only 2 locks, but a genuine staircase
even so, with just 3 sets of gates.
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Ian Rawlings - 18 Oct 2006 23:00 GMT
> I have a mental image of Austin driving a very large crusty baguette
> with a motor on the back! :)

I was thinking more along the lines of a chip buttie with brown sauce,
in fact I suspect I'll be thinking of that for the rest of the night
now...

> (what is a butty in the boating context?)

Glad it's not just me ;-)

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