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Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to bodge a new end on but no doubt it's now on borrowed time. Who's replaced and with what? What sort of money and is it any good or would you steer clear in future. We may well be doing the unofficial in the Disco which mean no froadin for us :-( Lee D > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to bodge [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Lee D The silencer is in stock - if you have a part number I can get the tail pipe. Richard  Signaturewww.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive > > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and > > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to bodge [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Richard Tut tut, should know these, Tailpipe is 595284. Martin. -- LRspares martin@woodendgarage.com Oily <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: > Tut tut, should know these, Tailpipe is 595284. > > Martin. Nope, thats the LHD one, Morph is RHD in which case it's 1 of 592794 Tailpipe (RHD) Lee D > Oily <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> uttered summat worrerz funny > about: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Lee D Ooops, I stand corrected, not worked on any right hand drive ones. Martin > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Lee D Crikey, me & Andy it is then, i expect a big queue for the use of Snowy then!! Nige >Who's replaced and with what? I got the Rimmer large bore SS sports jobbbies. Sounds the business and has a lifetime warranty - not that I guess that is worth owt in reality. > >Who's replaced and with what? > > I got the Rimmer large bore SS sports jobbbies. Sounds the business > and has a lifetime warranty - not that I guess that is worth owt in > reality. I fitted a rimmer "lifetime warranty" system to my 110 V8 some years ago and had 2 centre boxes replaced under their warranty due to internal baffle failures. The cynic in me thinks the internals are made of considerably lesser quality materials than the outer skins...... A friend has had 3 replaced now, for the same thing. One point worthy of note, the flanges (that aren't removeable from the flared ends of the pipes) are made of mild steel and not covered by the warranty, so eventually it all comes apart due to them corroding away and isn't covered! To be honest though, it still works out cheaper than replacing a mild steel aftermarket exhaust every 2 years, or a genuine parts one every 4 or 5. My disco II (2000, 4.0V8) will be due an exhaust soon, the original is starting to look decidedly dog-eared, but then it's been there for 6 years! I'm just praying that "Double S" get their corporate finger out and start making a suitable stainless replacement soon! Badger. > > >Who's replaced and with what? > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > making a suitable stainless replacement soon! > Badger. A friend of mine also had about five centre boxes replaced (baffles coming loose) on a Rimmer Bros system fitted to a V8 90 then got fed up and had me fitting a standard genuine parts full system. The Rimmer pipes weren't that good either (cheap grade stainless) but didn't give any trouble. Until I read your last paragraph I was going to suggest Double S for a replacement. Martin > > > >Who's replaced and with what? > > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Until I read your last paragraph I was going to suggest Double S for a > replacement. Yeah, the double-s stuff seems to be of a higher quality. I'm not replacing the 110's system with one of theirs however - I'm going to buy the separate boxes, bends etc from powerflo and tig up my own system as I want twin pipes front to rear with a balance pipe and a nice soft muted burble that turns into a rasp as I floor it! (well, what's the point of having a 4.7 if it can't announce its presence now and again, teehee.) It's the Disco series 2 that I really want double-s to start making a system for, before mine disintegrates! Badger. > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Lee D Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old D3 on the off-road course! Andy >> Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes >> and noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Andy ISTR he's got big LPG tanks underneath!! Pussy!!! I'll give you a ring tomorrow Andy, need to sort out whats happening etc? SignatureTa! Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover Turbo Diesel 110 (G) KTM 520 SX (2001) Kawasaki ZZR 1100 (1995) Nige <nigel.inceBUGGEROFF@btinternet.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about: >> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old >> D3 on the off-road course! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I'll give you a ring tomorrow Andy, need to sort out whats happening > etc? And although technically the Laguna is Mrs_D's runabout and the Disco mine... somehow possesion being 9/10th and all that would mean Mrs_D would be looking for blood if I start to wrap the LPG tanks around owt given she somehow always elects to take the Disco keys on her way out of the door. I've no problem rolling in the dirt with the local Gypsie bare knuckle boxers but know when I'm beat. ;-) I've still not given up hope on the 101, just got back in from work and ransacked the garage, loads of 2 inch pipe and stuff , I may , but only _may_ be able to cobble a extension on to the tail pipe such that it'll do for the trip. I don't want however to have a silencer bounce in to the front of our caravan so it all depends how bad it is once I start to explore further. Lee D > > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and > > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Andy Some people have more money than sense, I wouldn't take my 7 day old D3 off road (even if I could afford one). ;-) Martin >> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old D3 on > the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Martin I object to that, I don't have more money than sense (although I wish I did :-) ). The Discovery 3 is fantastically capable off-road, I have enough experience not to do anything silly that may damage it but I want to put it through its paces. It was designed for off-road use, why pay for all that ability if it's just to be used for the school run. Don't we berate those folk in their 'Chelsea tractors'??? > >> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old D3 on > > the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > experience not to do anything silly that may damage it but I want to put it > through its paces. Well, you do need to find the limit of its capabilities, but I just couldn't run it through all that mud and cr*p at the tender age of 7 days, makes me want to cry. It was designed for off-road use, why pay for all that > ability if it's just to be used for the school run. Don't we berate those > folk in their 'Chelsea tractors'??? Not allowed to comment there, one of my young 'uns lives in Central London and drives one of those, but at least it's an LR 90. Martin > The Discovery 3 is fantastically capable off-road > It was designed for off-road use Blimey. Sorry mush but I doubt it would beat a series 1 off-road! Especially if you turn up in low-profile road tyres (or "all terrains" as they're sometimes known). SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> The Discovery 3 is fantastically capable off-road >> It was designed for off-road use > > Blimey. Sorry mush but I doubt it would beat a series 1 off-road! > Especially if you turn up in low-profile road tyres (or "all terrains" > as they're sometimes known). I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is breakover and departure angles. Oh and mine is fitted with Goodyear MTR's :-) > I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is > breakover and departure angles. For a super-expensive truck, I wouldn't take it off-road with disadvantages like that. I've seen the Disco II in road trim get stuck in stupid places because of the trim around the edges, the wheelbase and then once it's stuck, the lack of proper recovery points. Another issue with the D3 is the weight. Basically you're going to have to be careful where you take it or it'll get stuck, scratched, dented etc etc. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is >> breakover and departure angles. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Basically you're going to have to be careful where you take it or > it'll get stuck, scratched, dented etc etc. I agree to a point but the D3 is far superior to the D2 in terms of angles etc, the air suspension gives 2" of standard lift with another 4" available if needed (extended and super extended modes), the recovery points are over engineered and will withstand serious recovery if need be. At the end of the day it is often down to the driver and his or her experience that will determine damage and whether or not you get stuck > At the end of the day it is often down to the driver and his or her > experience that will determine damage and whether or not you get stuck Within limits. You've still got more money than sense!! SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> At the end of the day it is often down to the driver and his or her >> experience that will determine damage and whether or not you get stuck > >Within limits. You've still got more money than sense!! Doe seem a little odd to me that here, on AFL, we are giving stick to somone who wants to use his LR as it was intended. Personally, I won't take my P£8 laning, because I like it looking pretty, and its main raison d'etre is towing a 2 tonne dive boat, not mud plugging, but that is my choice, and I salute Andy, Neil et al who take far more exotic machines places I would fear to tread. I would quite like to see a back to back Series 1, LR3 challenge (on similar tyres). Clarkson, Hammond, you listening? David > Doe seem a little odd to me that here, on AFL, we are giving stick to > somone who wants to use his LR as it was intended. What's a D3 or new rangie intended for I wonder. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! > Personally, I won't take my P£8 laning, LOL!!! perfect mistake for the P38!!! > > Personally, I won't take my P£8 laning, > > LOL!!! perfect mistake for the P38!!! Sure it was a mistake??? Badger. >> > Personally, I won't take my P£8 laning, >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Badger. Started as a mistake, but then I rather liked it, so left it! David > >> > Personally, I won't take my P£8 laning, > >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > Started as a mistake, but then I rather liked it, so left it! I can understand why...... Badger. >> >Sure it was a mistake??? >> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I can understand why...... > Badger. A true $x$ if ever there was one :-) Lee D > >> >Sure it was a mistake??? > >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > A true $x$ if ever there was one :-) hehehe, like it! Badger. >> > Personally, I won't take my P£8 laning, >> >> LOL!!! perfect mistake for the P38!!! > >Sure it was a mistake??? it's out by several orders of magnitude. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young / In a world of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994) > >> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is > >> breakover and departure angles. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > At the end of the day it is often down to the driver and his or her > experience that will determine damage and whether or not you get stuck Can't argue with that. Martin >Basically you're going to have to be careful where you take it or >it'll get stuck, scratched, dented etc etc. Neil took his showroom Rangie to places that frightened the dealer as I recall? > Neil took his showroom Rangie to places that frightened the dealer as > I recall? Good luck to 'em, if I was going to spend that kind of loot on an off-roader, it'd be a proper off-roader, probably ex-military, lots of choice there, although getting someone to sell you one can be hard! If I'm going to spend lots of cash on something, I'll get a car that's good on the road, or one that's good off the road, not one that's no good at either.. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >>Basically you're going to have to be careful where you take it or >>it'll get stuck, scratched, dented etc etc. > >Neil took his showroom Rangie to places that frightened the dealer as >I recall? ah, but was that on a test-drive? SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that 0123456789112345678921234567893123456789412345678951234567896123456789712345 1 weebl: What's this? | in recognition of the fun that is weebl and bob 2 bob: it a SigRuler! | check out the weebl and bob archive: 3 weebl: How Handy! | http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/archives.php >> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is >> breakover and departure angles. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >wheelbase and then once it's stuck, the lack of proper recovery >points. Another issue with the D3 is the weight. One thing they should consider is quick-release trim and spoilers and so on around the bottom of the body - this has been a bugbear for a lot longer than the D3 - sometime part-way through the RR classic run they started fitting front spoilers, which people knocked off on the scenery off-road. If these panels were easy to remove (and any low side panels, too) then they could be taken off when you went off-roading and replaced afterwards. I'm sure it's not beyond the ability of the designers and manufacturers to make such things. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that 0123456789112345678921234567893123456789412345678951234567896123456789712345 1 weebl: What's this? | in recognition of the fun that is weebl and bob 2 bob: it a SigRuler! | check out the weebl and bob archive: 3 weebl: How Handy! | http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/archives.php >>> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is >>> breakover and departure angles. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >sure it's not beyond the ability of the designers and manufacturers to make >such things. Pretty sure on my classic 86 RR the front spoiler was designed to come off easily, there is, ISTR, a bit in the owners handbook about how to remove it for off road use, four bolts from memory. Of course, 20 years of road salt has made made it somewhat less easy now. David >>>> I think you would be very surprised, the only thing it would lose on is >>>> breakover and departure angles. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > David It took me two hours of swearing & chopping to get one of the 'easy' bolts off!!!! > Of course, 20 years of road salt has made made it somewhat less easy > now. If it was removable, I'll bet that it'd be damned hard to make it go back on once all the fastenings and mating surfaces had been dragged through the mud for a few hours. It can be hard enough getting the doors to close sometimes! SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! > One thing they should consider is quick-release trim and spoilers and so on > around the bottom of the body - this has been a bugbear for a lot longer > than the D3 At the last off-road pay 'n' play I went to, a Disco series 2 had to give up due to having to drive round at a snail's pace with 2 spotters to stop the lower trim getting scuffed by the edge of the track, a big queue of disgruntled off-roaders quickly built up behind them. Never mind what the vehicle's capable of, if the owner doesn't want to scratch it then that's a real limit on lots of tracks, and you don't always get the opportunity to stop and turn around if it gets too bad! SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> One thing they should consider is quick-release trim and spoilers and so on >> around the bottom of the body - this has been a bugbear for a lot longer [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >scratch it then that's a real limit on lots of tracks, and you don't >always get the opportunity to stop and turn around if it gets too bad! yeah, but if you're bothered about the trim getting scratched, you're not really an off-roader, just a numpty who's got in out of their depth. If I could afford a D3 (or even a D2) I might well take it off-road, but I'd not be that precious about it. Last time I went to the (now, I suspect, defunct) Pontardawe course, there was a chap there with a new shiney toyota of some sort, complete with fog lights mounted low down on the front. He didn't seem unduly bothered at their demise during the days amusement, and it went quite impressively around the "ordinary" bits of the course where we were playing. The nutters had departed to the mud-run, of course, although we met up with some of them later attempting to scale a more-or-less impassable gulley, which resulted in some amusement for the onlookers. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero" (sieze today, and put as little trust as you can in tomorrow) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Odes, I.xi.8 > yeah, but if you're bothered about the trim getting scratched, > you're not really an off-roader, just a numpty who's got in out of > their depth. If I could afford a D3 (or even a D2) I might well > take it off-road, but I'd not be that precious about it. But what would be the point of spending that kind of money on a vehicle that you were going to bash around off-road, after all what does it have to offer other than prestige and luxury? They don't handle well off-road, and don't handle well on-road, there's not a thing that the luxury town tractors can do that can't be done much better by something much cheaper. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> yeah, but if you're bothered about the trim getting scratched, >> you're not really an off-roader, just a numpty who's got in out of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > thing that the luxury town tractors can do that can't be done much > better by something much cheaper. He's not using it as an all out off roader, he uses it for work, so some degree of comfort is needed! I used a 110 TD for the last 5 months & whilst i love it, the noise & speed can be a bit much on long journeys! > He's not using it as an all out off roader, he uses it for work, so > some degree of comfort is needed! I used a 110 TD for the last 5 > months & whilst i love it, the noise & speed can be a bit much on > long journeys! Personally I bought a Defender and an Audi and got a car that'll out-do any of the luxo-barges on the road and one that'll out-do them off the road too! Plus I get the benefit of having a spare car ;-) I've had some people say "why don't you get a car that can do both", well the simple answer is that they've not made one yet and doubt they ever will. The Audi is quiet and does 47MPG, the Defender is the most reliable car I've owned and can be cleaned inside with a hosepipe and a high-lift jack (to get the water out), now that's luxury ;-) SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> He's not using it as an all out off roader, he uses it for work, so >> some degree of comfort is needed! I used a 110 TD for the last 5 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >reliable car I've owned and can be cleaned inside with a hosepipe and >a high-lift jack (to get the water out), now that's luxury ;-) Not everyone can afford to have more than one motor on the road, though, or has parking for them, or various other issues. Given the option, it makes sense to have several vehicles - I do myself: minibus for work, series III for play and for when it's snowy, sierra for roadwork, bike for having fun on in the summer... but currently, only the SIII and the minibus are legal - the car's not taxed 'cos I couldn't afford it when it came up for renewal last month and the bike's neither taxed nor MOTed, and is only insured 'cos ICBA to cancel it and it only costs 10 quid a month - it's not that likely to get nicked round here although it is insured for theft. Mind you, I bet they'd try to weasel out of it on the grounds that it's not taxed or MOTed... I hope to combine the SIII and minibus functions into one, mind; but that does restrict the playing that can be done - as it is, if I go playing in the SIII and break it, it can stay broken for a week or a month without causing any problems - the minibus has to be running 190 days of the year. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Blue: The sky is blue for a reason. Blue light is a source of strength and harmony in the cosmos. Create a blue light in your life by telephoning the police from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton. > Not everyone can afford to have more than one motor on the road, though, or > has parking for them, or various other issues. If we're talking about spending 40-60K on an urban tractor then I can't think of many things that make it the best option! > Given the option, it makes sense to have several vehicles - I do > myself: minibus for work, series III for play and for when it's > snowy, sierra for roadwork, bike for having fun on in the summer... Yep, same here, audi for mile-eating, landy for lugging stuff around long-distance and towing, pinz for off-roading fun and lotus for keeping the rain off the garage floor. Only audi and landy are on the road though, I've usually got at least two cars that are running. > I hope to combine the SIII and minibus functions into one, mind; but that > does restrict the playing that can be done - as it is, if I go playing in > the SIII and break it, it can stay broken for a week or a month without > causing any problems - the minibus has to be running 190 days of the year. Yikes, best keep the toys separate from the necessities! I've seen people turning up to off-road events in the trucks they use to run their tree surgeon's business etc, a bit risky although it helps to make sure they know what they can do in it. I suppose the business can pick up the tab but it still comes out of the owner's pocket at the end of the day. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >>> He's not using it as an all out off roader, he uses it for work, >>> so some degree of comfort is needed! I used a 110 TD for the last [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > week or a month without causing any problems - the minibus has to > be running 190 days of the year. What bike you got Austin? SignatureTa! Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover Turbo Diesel 110 (G) KTM 520 SX (2001) Kawasaki ZZR 1100 (1995) >What bike you got Austin? BMW R60, somewhat modified. http://www.ddol-las.net/boxer SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "The boys are dreaming wicked or of the bucking ranches of the night and the jollyrodgered sea." Dylan Thomas (1914 - 1953) Under milk wood >> What bike you got Austin? > > BMW R60, somewhat modified. > > http://www.ddol-las.net/boxer mmmm - nice, BMW's are a tad twee these days, that looks like it needs a sidecar with an MG42 on point duty!! top do! SignatureTa! Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover Turbo Diesel 110 (G) KTM 520 SX (2001) Kawasaki ZZR 1100 (1995) >>> Why can't you off-road in the Disco, I will be taking my 7-day old D3 on >> the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > all that ability if it's just to be used for the school run. Don't we > berate those folk in their 'Chelsea tractors'??? >> > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and >> > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Martin What was it built for mate? > >> > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and > >> > noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > What was it built for mate? Can't argue with that either. But he's still got more money than sense. Martin >> >> > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes >> >> > and [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Martin Has he bollocks, he's an enthusiast like all of us. Nige > >> >> > Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes > >> >> > and [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Nige I didn't mention anything about his endowment. And I've done lots of off roading and in places other people wouldn't go, but he's still got more money than sense I say. ;-) Martin >I didn't mention anything about his endowment. And I've done lots of off >roading and in places other people wouldn't go, but he's still got more >money than sense I say. ;-) You're just jealous 'cos you can't afford one... SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero" (sieze today, and put as little trust as you can in tomorrow) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Odes, I.xi.8 > >I didn't mention anything about his endowment. And I've done lots of off > >roading and in places other people wouldn't go, but he's still got more > >money than sense I say. ;-) > > You're just jealous 'cos you can't afford one... Tell me where I said I wasn't. ;-) Martin i bought the rimmer std one for mine since i couldlt afford the sports one (grumbles does sound good!) my only hassle with it was that it didnt come with any new clamps or fittings which were a hassle to get hold of. Youd have thought that for the price of it they could have included them! >Morph is making his usual protest, just been adjusting the brakes and >noticed the tail pipe has rotted all the way through. I may be able to bodge >a new end on but no doubt it's now on borrowed time. > >Who's replaced and with what? What sort of money and is it any good or would >you steer clear in future. my exhaust rotted away at the junction of the 2 smaller pipes. it sounded ace with it snapped off there! i still have the old silencer box off mine and it is pretty much intact (minus the metre or so of straight pipe off the end which i stole to make a car exhaust) if you wanted to weld a bit back on you could fit my old box. it is stashed in the garden somewhere. I will be back very late thursday/early on friday, so if you want it give me a ring on friday morning and you can fit it quickly before leaving.! |
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