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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / October 2006Wings and Spot Welding
Is the rear section of the wings spot welded to the bulkhead? If not , what are they spot welded to? If it is the bulkhead, do you have to paint body with wings already fitted? thanks in advance > Is the rear section of the wings spot welded to the bulkhead? If not , what > are they spot welded to? If it is the bulkhead, do you have to paint body > with wings already fitted? What sort of vehicle?  SignatureEMB > Is the rear section of the wings spot welded to the bulkhead? If not , > what > are they spot welded to? If it is the bulkhead, do you have to paint body > with wings already fitted? > > thanks in advance It would help if we knew what sort of Landrover you are talking about. But assuming you are talking about the Series and 90/110/Defender, which all use the same construction - the wing side panels are spot welded to a right angle piece which is held to the bulkhead by several large hex head screws going into speednuts on the bulkhead. These are accessible from under the wing. JD > It would help if we knew what sort of Landrover you are talking about. But > assuming you are talking about the Series and 90/110/Defender, which all [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > going into speednuts on the bulkhead. These are accessible from under the > wing. MY BAD... and apologies...DUH. Yes, it a petrol 1975 Series III 109" RHD. Thanks for the info - whew, that's a relief its not welded to the bulkhead. regards, Oz > MY BAD... and apologies...DUH. Yes, it a petrol 1975 Series III 109" RHD. > Thanks for the info - whew, that's a relief its not welded to the bulkhead. Not that I'm sure how you would weld aluminium to steel of course. SignatureEMB > Not that I'm sure how you would weld aluminium to steel of course. This company http://www.muggyweld.com has a rod with this claim: Super Alloy 1 is a multi-metal, low temperature solder with a melting point of 350o. Its unique properties allow you to join copper, aluminum, brass, pot metal, white metal, zinc die cast, stainless, galvanized, pewter and steel in any combination. This rod allows you to join metals such as steel to aluminum, which welding instructors are STILL teaching can't be done. >> Not that I'm sure how you would weld aluminium to steel of course. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > steel in any combination. This rod allows you to join metals such as steel > to aluminum, which welding instructors are STILL teaching can't be done. The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure together so they become one contiguous item. SignatureEMB > The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items > together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure > together so they become one contiguous item. I think the word here is PEDANTIC ;) >> The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items >> together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ;) Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most metals have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time. Nowhere near as resilient as welding, only good for temporary repairs or ornamental stuff in most cases. SignatureKaren "Reverse the polarity and invert the particle flux!" "You mean put the batteries in the other way?" "...yes." -Star Trek (any of them) > Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most metals > have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time. Nowhere near > as resilient as welding, only good for temporary repairs or ornamental > stuff in most cases. yes , you're both right. I'm sorry > yes , you're both right. I'm sorry No problem. Everyone is entitled to their point of view, it's just that some of us have formed ours through years of performing the task in question. If there's any more information you need don't hesitate to ask. SignatureEMB > Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most metals > have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time. Nowhere > near as resilient as welding, only good for temporary repairs or > ornamental stuff in most cases. Thanks babe - I should have guessed you'd be along to support me in due course. :-) SignatureEMB || Duracell Bunny wrote: || [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] || -- || EMB This sort of stuff belongs in alt.mutual.appreciation.society, not here :-) SignatureRich ============================== Take out the obvious to email me. > This sort of stuff belongs in alt.mutual.appreciation.society, not here :-) Do I detect an air of jealousy? :-) SignatureEMB || Richard Brookman wrote: ||| [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] || -- || EMB No, I like it when people are nice to each other. We should all do a lot more of it. And when people on *Usenet* are nice to each other, it really is a cause for celebration :-) SignatureRich ============================== Take out the obvious to email me. >> Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most >> metals have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks babe - I should have guessed you'd be along to support me in due > course. :-) As usual, kind Sir, I'm flattered :) We colonials must stick together. SignatureKaren If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.' Catherine Aird >>> Well, the point EMB made is valid after all, solders to join most >>> metals have been on sale in the likes of Tandy for a very long time. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >We colonials must stick together. Or solder... SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell" Gen. Sherman (1820-1891) Attr. words in Address at Michigan Military Academy, 19 June 1879. > I think the word here is PEDANTIC > > ;) Probably :-) When your chassis needs rust repairs let me solder it up for you - I'm sure the result will be suitably strong and durable for it's intended purpose. SignatureEMB > > I think the word here is PEDANTIC > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sure the result will be suitably strong and durable for it's intended > purpose. Now how does the OP come up with a silly question like that and then quote all the technical crap? Martin > Now how does the OP come up with a silly question like that and then quote > all the technical crap? I guess he did this... http://tinyurl.com/2rfwr SignatureEMB > > Now how does the OP come up with a silly question like that and then quote > > all the technical crap? > > I guess he did this... http://tinyurl.com/2rfwr I like that. Your handiwork? Martin >> > Now how does the OP come up with a silly question like that and then >quote [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >I like that. Your handiwork? reminds me of another page... http://tinyurl.com/3mnj4 the tinyurl is only there for dramatic effect. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell" Gen. Sherman (1820-1891) Attr. words in Address at Michigan Military Academy, 19 June 1879. > reminds me of another page... > > http://tinyurl.com/3mnj4 > > the tinyurl is only there for dramatic effect. I've set that as the homepage for a clueless manager at work - he has no idea how to change it, and gets a daily reminder of just how useless he is. SignatureEMB >>> > Now how does the OP come up with a silly question like that and then >>quote [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >the tinyurl is only there for dramatic effect. yet another of Martyn's sites..... SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... >> The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items >> together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure >> together so they become one contiguous item. > >I think the word here is PEDANTIC not really. Soldering is only ever as strong as the "glue". you can join steel, for example, by bronze welding, i.e. a fillet of bronze which is stuck to both of 2 bits of steel. However, it's only as strong as the bronze filler. Welding, properly done, can approach the same strength as the original material, although most often it isn't. You could stick alloy to steel with silicone sealer. The joint, however, wouldn't be one you'd want to trust your life to. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell" Gen. Sherman (1820-1891) Attr. words in Address at Michigan Military Academy, 19 June 1879. >>> The magic word there is SOLDER - soldering is merely gluing 2 items >>> together, welding is melting them and fusing their molecular structure [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > You could stick alloy to steel with silicone sealer. The joint, however, > wouldn't be one you'd want to trust your life to. OOh Austin now you'll get pilloried for not calling it brazing ;-). I reckon the most effective ways to attach alloy to steel ( more usually titanium) are the newish glues used by the likes of BAe the difficulty being getting hold of them, mind you Austins hotmelt silicone is a dammed sight easier to apply. IMO owt that is secure at Mach 2 is good enough for me even downhill with a following wind. http://www.intertronics.co.uk/products/araldite2000a.htm Derek (sorry for emailing it to you as well Austin) >OOh Austin now you'll get pilloried for not calling it brazing ;-). I phrased it most carefully. I at least, and by the sound of it you, know the difference. >I reckon >the most effective ways to attach alloy to steel ( more usually titanium) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >(sorry for emailing it to you as well Austin) did you? ah, it'll be in the spamtrap account, probably. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Beyond the horizon of the place we lived when we were young / In a world of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994) |
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