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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / December 2006Hummer vs Schoolbus
Enjoy the demise of that wannabe piece of junk http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/3182  SignatureLarry Series 3 Rust and Holes > Enjoy the demise of that wannabe piece of junk > http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/3182 Thats just a Cheverolet Suburban with a plastic Hummer stick on body, as are all the civilian Hummers sold by GM. If it smells like sh.t, looks like sh.t, tastes like sh.t, it must be a Hummer. >> Enjoy the demise of that wannabe piece of junk >> http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/3182 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >If it smells like sh.t, looks like sh.t, tastes like sh.t, it must be >a Hummer. yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared slightly better. Mind you, an american schoolbus is a big, heavy vehicle even compared to a Hummer. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929) >>> Enjoy the demise of that wannabe piece of junk >>> http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/3182 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared slightly > better. Not really: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lpxoomyFs_0 > Not really: > http://youtube.com/watch?v=lpxoomyFs_0 Heh, nothing to do with crash worthiness but funny anyway, although there are H2s in there with the original hummers. All hummers are sh.t though, too heavy, too wide, too long. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> Not really: >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=lpxoomyFs_0 > > Heh, nothing to do with crash worthiness but funny anyway, although > there are H2s in there with the original hummers. All hummers are > sh.t though, too heavy, too wide, too long. Which is why, of course, the US Special Forces use a Land Rover... But you musn't tell anyone, even though they've got about 5,000 of the things... SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. >>>> Enjoy the demise of that wannabe piece of junk >>>> http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/3182 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Not really: > http://youtube.com/watch?v=lpxoomyFs_0 American Idiot was the only possible soundtrack.... >> yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared slightly >> better. > >Not really: >http://youtube.com/watch?v=lpxoomyFs_0 The one that breaks its track rod is another H2. The white one looks like a H1 but appears to be suffering from cockpit thrombosis. The one at the end which the bloke tips onto its side, from my reading, he intends to. However, my comment was about the strength of the thing, the H1 is built to withstand the american military. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee" John Donne (1571? - 1631) Devotions, XVII > >> yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared slightly > >> better. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > However, my comment was about the strength of the thing, the H1 is built to > withstand the american military. Ah! That'll be why they are so wide - so they can go round like a headless chicken in ever-decreasing circles without falling over - presumably there is a hidden sound box that goes "Hut!" a lot? Richard Signaturewww.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive > Ah! That'll be why they are so wide - so they can go round like > a headless chicken in ever-decreasing circles without falling > over - presumably there is a hidden sound box that goes "Hut!" a > lot? Don't forget they need room for the infra-red automatic targetting device - you know, the one that ensure the success of "friendly fire" incidents? DaveP It would seem that the average american school bus is built thus as well, cos maybe american schoolkids are even more dangerous than the military. SignatureLarry Series 3 Rust and Holes > However, my comment was about the strength of the thing, the H1 is built > to > withstand the american military. > It would seem that the average american school bus is built thus as well, > cos maybe american schoolkids are even more dangerous than the military. they have at least as many guns.... On Tuesday, in article <el3gkc$7h9$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk> > It would seem that the average american school bus is built thus as well, > cos maybe american schoolkids are even more dangerous than the military. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I always reckoned that Giles and Spike should have had Land Rovers. SignatureDavid G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger. "I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six." > >> yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared slightly > >> better. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The one that breaks its track rod is another H2. Thank you Captain Obvious. >> >> yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared >slightly [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Thank you Captain Obvious. oooh, meowww. put them claws away... :-) Not saying it wasn't funny, but it wasn't really pertinent to my original point about the relative strength of the "proper" Humvee and the H2. Having studied an H1 close up, it's well solid and it's no wonder it weighs 4½ tons. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" George Orwell (1903 - 1950) Animal Farm Austin Hi, H1s are pretty sturdy. But their tyres let them down at least those that were used back in 1996 when I had one in Beirut. I may be repeating myself but managed to have three flat tyres on the same spot. At this was a plain field with some thorny bushes. But ordinary Toyota Corollas with ordinary tyres were able to pass through those bushes without any problem. The H1 was useless about 20 Km away from there. It didn't not have a spare tyre as it was fitted with the automatic inflation system which is supposed to be able to accomodate three tyres losing air. And those tyres were supposed to be able to ran flat for about 50 kms at a maximum of 50Km/h speed. Did not manage to do so at all. And the H1 had to be moved on a flatbed. I gave the H1 back and drove a Cherokee for the remaining of my visit there. Take care Pantelis > >> >> yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared > >slightly [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" > George Orwell (1903 - 1950) Animal Farm >>> yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared >>> slightly [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > built to > withstand the american military. In that case they must be missile proof!! > >>> yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared > >>> slightly [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > In that case they must be missile proof!! Cartainy against their own missiles! Have yet to be tested by enemy weapons yet? Richard Signaturewww.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk www.radioparadise.com - Good Music, No Vine Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive >>> yeah. I suspect the genyooine military Hummer would have fared slightly >>> better. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >thrombosis. The one at the end which the bloke tips onto its side, from my >reading, he intends to. The white one is a H1, which is a civvy spec one, rather than an HMMVW. It looks distinctly lower on the suspension than a HMMVW, which combined with the idiot behind the wheel is why it can't get through. Alex > The white one is a H1, which is a civvy spec one, rather than an > HMMVW. It looks distinctly lower on the suspension than a HMMVW, which > combined with the idiot behind the wheel is why it can't get through. Civvy spec one has more power and a 2.5 inch body lift to accomodate the bigger engine according to the wikipedia entry. I've seen the real ones and they are very heavy and very wide, they do have a lot of ground clearance, but the ramp-over angles are very poor as it's got a 130 wheelbase. Earlier ones didn't have any ability to lock axle differentials, later ones could do it using ABS brakes according to a chap on my pinz list who has both pinz and H1. Hummer piss-taking breaks out on the pinz list from time to time, the sole pinz & H1 owner reckons that it's as good as the 4x4 pinz off-road, but no-one believes it for a second, the truck's too big and the wheels are too far apart. They seem to beach themselves a lot, sitting on their drivetrains, like you'd expect a Landrover 130 to do. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> The white one is a H1, which is a civvy spec one, rather than an >> HMMVW. It looks distinctly lower on the suspension than a HMMVW, which >> combined with the idiot behind the wheel is why it can't get through. > > Civvy spec one has more power and a 2.5 inch body lift to accomodate > the bigger engine according to the wikipedia entry. But the civvy one is a Chevy van of some sort underneath and the military one has a very sophisticated drive system underneath. They're far too wide for Middle Eastern and European back alleys anyway. I did read somewhere that they're too wide for the standard forestry road in Europe and so get stuck a lot here when the US military come out to play... SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. > But the civvy one is a Chevy van of some sort underneath and the military > one has a very sophisticated drive system underneath. The hummer H2 is a Chevvy Tahoe underneath, the hummer H1 is a modified version of the proper military one. Some people liked the look and size of the H1 but didn't like its agricultural nature, so a poorly-selling luxury barge was reclothed to look a little bit like an H1 and called the H2. That's the one you're thinking of. The white truck in the video on the link posted here is an H1, the civilian version of the military truck. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! Same thing applies with the military Hummers the Greek Army has bought in order to patrol the Greek Albanian borders (fitted with infrared cameras so as to be able to see illegal immigrants from those borders entering into Greece) We now have lots of Hummers sitting in the army barracks or available for parades but not small enough to travel through the forest roads. Take care Pantelis > >> The white one is a H1, which is a civvy spec one, rather than an > >> HMMVW. It looks distinctly lower on the suspension than a HMMVW, which [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach > Time for tea. Ian Hi, early and military versions had THREE (2) TorSen diffs and they do work exceptionaly well when you manage to learn the brake pedal trick. This trick also works like a charm with you fit QUAIFE diffs on a Landy (which is something that I have done on a D90 which was raced here in Greece but with QUAIFE at the front and rear axle only (center diff was a standard LT230) And the brake pedal trick (apply a bit of brake when one of the wheels loses traction) worked very nicely and was extremely easy. Especially when combined with an autobox it is simply unstoppable. ---------- But H1 are VERY HEAVY and cumbersome. What they gain on attack and retreat angles though they lose from their ramp angle which minimal compared to the other two. Ground clearance is impressive but the long wheelbase does not assist. And for such a HUGE vehicle passenger and load space is VERY LIMITED (back you get a nice flat area between the passengers to mount your machine gun or missile launcher) Take care Pantelis > > The white one is a H1, which is a civvy spec one, rather than an > > HMMVW. It looks distinctly lower on the suspension than a HMMVW, which [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! |
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