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Adam Swire - 06 Dec 2006 18:07 GMT
Seen a nice LHD GS 101 LPG converted 21000kms for £2800.

Is there anything specific to watch out for? The tilt is a bit ropey and two
of the tyres will need replacing VERY soon. There is a winch with the
vehicle but it isn't attached. I was told it worked but no guarantees.

The electrics seem simple enough. (Just been sorting some issues on my 38a
so everything seems simple after that!)

Had a poke around underneath and all seemed ok but it was peeing down and I
wasn't under there for long. Are there any notorious rot spots to look for?

I drove it around the yard, (which was an experience in it's self ) and the
engine/transmission seemed ok. Couldn't take it for a road test as there
were no plates on it.
I should be able to take it for a road test on Saturday.

All help and advice gratefully received,

Adam
steve Taylor - 06 Dec 2006 19:09 GMT
> Seen a nice LHD GS 101 LPG converted 21000kms for £2800.
>
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> Had a poke around underneath and all seemed ok but it was peeing down and I
> wasn't under there for long. Are there any notorious rot spots to look for?

The major rust points are behind the bumperettes on the back, leading to
the destruction of the rear crossmember. You should join the 101 club
asap for spares support...
http://www.101club.org

Steve
sean101ryan@hotmail.com - 06 Dec 2006 19:21 GMT
> The major rust points are behind the bumperettes on the back, leading to
> the destruction of the rear crossmember. You should join the 101 club
> asap for spares support...
> http://www.101club.org
>
> Steve

Agreed, only major rust point. Other minor one but easily fixed is a
steel filler panel behind doors. Check fuel tank for leaks, replacement
from club will set you back £250 or so.
Check all body panels and fixings are there, hard to obtain. Doortops
are unique to 101and rust badly, club are looking at doing ally
replacements. Front swivel housings should have good chrome, they're
welded to the axles so can't be swapped. Otherwise mechanicals are
early Range Rover.

Budget £350 for a new canvas. Tyres are becoming a problem unless you
replace with big MT type tyres, military 9.00x16s are getting hard to
find.

Price is good if it drives OK, good ones with no work required are
£3500 - 4500.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
2000 110 CSW Blingwagon
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steve Taylor - 06 Dec 2006 20:06 GMT
> Agreed, only major rust point.

True, but an expensive one (300 from memory)
Other minor one but easily fixed is a
> steel filler panel behind doors.
Now available from club stock and pre-plated with zinc to stop the
swines rusting out. Cheap to buy. Evil to replace.
> Check fuel tank for leaks, replacement
> from club will set you back £250 or so.

340+ GBP inc VAT in stainless steel. Sorry. Though there are a few mild
steel ones around I understand.

> Check all body panels and fixings are there, hard to obtain. Doortops
> are unique to 101and rust badly, club are looking at doing ally
> replacements.
Looking at costs now. Drawings done and being tendered on.

 Front swivel housings should have good chrome, they're
> welded to the axles so can't be swapped. Otherwise mechanicals are
> early Range Rover.
>
> Budget £350 for a new canvas.
Easily. Undercover covers do the best ones.

> Tyres are becoming a problem unless you
> replace with big MT type tyres, military 9.00x16s are getting hard to
> find.

The ones on the 101 on the front of the latest Six Stud are on special
offer to club members.

Steve
(101 club treasurer)
Austin Shackles - 06 Dec 2006 20:54 GMT
> You should join the 101 club
>asap for spares support...
>http://www.101club.org

Speaking of things 101 and club, anyone heard from Martyn recently?
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Ian Rawlings - 06 Dec 2006 20:57 GMT
> Speaking of things 101 and club, anyone heard from Martyn recently?

I've been meaning to ask you that for a few weeks now!  Worryingly
quiet.

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Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Lee_D - 06 Dec 2006 20:57 GMT
> Speaking of things 101 and club, anyone heard from Martyn recently?

Yeah , he's mending still, I think he will be back with the usual vigour in
the new year (fingers crossed).

Lee D
steve Taylor - 06 Dec 2006 21:06 GMT
>> You should join the 101 club
>> asap for spares support...
>> http://www.101club.org
>
> Speaking of things 101 and club, anyone heard from Martyn recently?
AFAIK He´ll be at the AGM on Saturday, if he isn´t looking in here, I´ll
take everyones regards

Steve
Austin Shackles - 07 Dec 2006 07:43 GMT
>>> You should join the 101 club
>>> asap for spares support...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>AFAIK He´ll be at the AGM on Saturday, if he isn´t looking in here, I´ll
>take everyones regards

good man.  

And I've not forgotten that heater, I'll try and get it sent this week.
Spent about an hour yesterday on the phone trying to navigate through the
maze that is fedex, getting an oversize parcel sent as freight to florida.
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Simon Isaacs - 08 Dec 2006 22:10 GMT
>>> You should join the 101 club
>>> asap for spares support...
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Steve

spoke to him last weekend, and even that seemed in doubt, his eye is
causing all sorts of problems apparently.
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Ian Rawlings - 08 Dec 2006 23:27 GMT
> spoke to him last weekend, and even that seemed in doubt, his eye is
> causing all sorts of problems apparently.

Nuts, please pass on best wishes and tell him we're misbehaving.

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Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

Richard Brookman - 09 Dec 2006 09:55 GMT
||| spoke to him last weekend, and even that seemed in doubt, his eye is
||| causing all sorts of problems apparently.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
|| --
|| Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

And from Di and myself - and any other nuts :-)

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Austin Shackles - 09 Dec 2006 16:29 GMT
>||| spoke to him last weekend, and even that seemed in doubt, his eye is
>||| causing all sorts of problems apparently.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>And from Di and myself - and any other nuts :-)

quite.

anyone sees or speaks to him, pass on GWSs aplenty.
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steve - 09 Dec 2006 20:08 GMT
> anyone sees or speaks to him, pass on GWSs aplenty.

Saw him, but didn't get a chance to speak to him in person and send
everyone's good wishes. He's put the club into a very good position
membership wise as he leaves his post, and the club committee.

I have send everyone's regards on

Steve
Lee_D - 10 Dec 2006 18:24 GMT
steve <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:

>> anyone sees or speaks to him, pass on GWSs aplenty.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Steve

Well I wouldn't do it for all the tea in China , I think it's a thankless
task trying to please all those people and testiment to Martyn, Charlotte
and Max that they have all done so well. Indeed Grumble despite what the
rivet counters may or may not like has undoubtedly converted more will-be
and has-been 101 owners in to the fold than any amount of Green Machines
which you can eat your dinner off.

I'd like to publically thank Martyn for tempting me with a 101 and for all
the good times on the club stand where we've always been well entertained,
sadly no doubt we'll not be casting any more shadows on the stand unless we
stop for a Pims. However every cloud has a Silver lining and mine is the
deminishing Visa bill ;-)

I certainly want to see MORE unofficial stuff, cracking bunch... or
crackers?

Lee D
Simon Isaacs - 10 Dec 2006 19:49 GMT
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:24:23 -0000, "Lee_D"
<newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> scribbled the following
nonsense:

>steve <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>Lee D

could not put it better myself Lee!
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Tom Woods - 10 Dec 2006 23:45 GMT
>Well I wouldn't do it for all the tea in China , I think it's a thankless
>task trying to please all those people and testiment to Martyn, Charlotte
>and Max that they have all done so well.

I'd never want to see the day while I own a 101 that the club isnt
there though.

>Indeed Grumble despite what the
>rivet counters may or may not like has undoubtedly converted more will-be
>and has-been 101 owners in to the fold than any amount of Green Machines
>which you can eat your dinner off.
>
>I'd like to publically thank Martyn for tempting me with a 101

indeed! He adversly affected my savings and cashflow too, but in a
good way ;)
and the stuff he has done for it is the main reason why i joined the
club.
William Tasso - 11 Dec 2006 00:21 GMT
> ...
> I certainly want to see MORE unofficial stuff

Good call - seconded.

> cracking bunch... or crackers?

both?

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Austin Shackles - 11 Dec 2006 10:01 GMT
>I certainly want to see MORE unofficial stuff, cracking bunch... or
>crackers?

both, definitely.

still fancy a spring unoffical in worcestershire, provided the weather's
suitable and we don't mess up Tim's farm too much.  that'll have as much to
do with how wet it is next spring as owt else - but past experience is that
most of the "unofficallers" don't want extreme mudplugging style off-roading
anyway, so provided it's reasonably dry so we can have a bit of a play round
the banks and so on without cutting the ground up it should be doable.

One of the things in that area I'd like to visit is Bulmer's Cider.  nearer
the time I'll look into what else is of interest.  's not quite in the area
but we could all descend en masse to J.V.Like's and ogle the new land
rovers, for half-an-hour's amusement.  There is-or-was rather a good pub by
the Wye not far from there to get lunch - the pub's still there, dunno what
the food's like now as I've not been there for a while.
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Nige - 11 Dec 2006 10:07 GMT
>>I certainly want to see MORE unofficial stuff, cracking bunch... or
>>crackers?
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> what
> the food's like now as I've not been there for a while.

I could be up for that too.
Lee_D - 11 Dec 2006 20:50 GMT
Nige <nigel.inceGETAWAY@btinternet.com> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
>>> I certainly want to see MORE unofficial stuff, cracking bunch... or
>>> crackers?
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> I could be up for that too.

Us too date dependant and being able to get leave.... got a period of acting
coming up..oh the power ;-)

Sir D ;-)
Simon Isaacs - 11 Dec 2006 18:32 GMT
>>I certainly want to see MORE unofficial stuff, cracking bunch... or
>>crackers?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>the Wye not far from there to get lunch - the pub's still there, dunno what
>the food's like now as I've not been there for a while.

mmm cider.... made plenty of homebrew cider this year, not much left
either.....
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Lee_D - 11 Dec 2006 20:48 GMT
Simon Isaacs <crgreobebhtu4k4@btopenworld.com> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> mmm cider.... made plenty of homebrew cider this year, not much left
> either.....

6 days till I filter the Damson Gin, Damson Vodka , Sloe Vodka and Sloe Gin
:-)

......christmas was but a blur that year.
Richard Brookman - 11 Dec 2006 19:37 GMT
|| One of the things in that area I'd like to visit is Bulmer's Cider.

Wasn't it Austin who mentioned a brewery visit last time?  I see a pattern
developing.

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Austin Shackles - 12 Dec 2006 09:39 GMT
>|| One of the things in that area I'd like to visit is Bulmer's Cider.
>
>Wasn't it Austin who mentioned a brewery visit last time?  I see a pattern
>developing.

no, that wasn't my idea.  twas a good idea, but I can't claim ownership
thereof.
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Lee_D - 11 Dec 2006 20:54 GMT
Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:

>> I certainly want to see MORE unofficial stuff, cracking bunch... or
>> crackers?
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> lunch - the pub's still there, dunno what the food's like now as I've
> not been there for a while.

Another one for the melting pot  Iron Bridge timed to coincide with one of
the 4x4 fundays...

http://www.4x4funday.co.uk/offrd.html

Only suggest it cos it's one of the few I actually know and have been too...
no disappointments with this offroad course. And more local history than you
can poke a stick at.

fortuneately there are losts of weekends next year :-)

Lee D
Austin Shackles - 12 Dec 2006 09:40 GMT
>Another one for the melting pot  Iron Bridge timed to coincide with one of
>the 4x4 fundays...

Ironbridge is a fun visit.

>Only suggest it cos it's one of the few I actually know and have been too...
>no disappointments with this offroad course. And more local history than you
>can poke a stick at.

sounds a go-er.
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William Tasso - 12 Dec 2006 10:14 GMT
> ...
> fortuneately there are losts of weekends next year :-)

aye - lost a few this year already :)

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Lee_D - 12 Dec 2006 12:13 GMT
William Tasso <SpamBlocked@tbdata.com> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:

>> ...
>> fortuneately there are losts of weekends next year :-)
>
> aye - lost a few this year already :)

Doh!

It's either the Keyboard or the Wine... I'll try more wine later :-)
Nige - 06 Dec 2006 21:32 GMT
>> You should join the 101 club
>> asap for spares support...
>> http://www.101club.org
>
> Speaking of things 101 and club, anyone heard from Martyn recently?

I had an e-mail from him around 10 days ago, it was club related & he
did reply quite quickly.

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