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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / December 2006New Landrover Fan has arrived
Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last night. Arrived at 2:15 this morning, weighing in at 7lbs 9oz, decided to call him Harry, and he will be in tow next year during the show season! Dawn was sent home with him at 10am this morning! Both doing well, and he's already been laning! http://tinyurl.com/yfbcch He's got that much hair, he looks linke a silverback gorilla!  SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... > Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last > night. > > Arrived at 2:15 this morning, weighing in at 7lbs 9oz, decided to call > him Harry Congratulations - be aware they all leak from new and screech like a barrel full of rusty wheel bearings. > and he will be in tow next year during the show season! damn right :) SignatureWilliam Tasso Land Rover - 110 V8 Discovery - V8 Congrats to you both!. Dom J >> Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last >> night. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Congratulations - be aware they all leak from new and screech like a >barrel full of rusty wheel bearings. currently trying to broker an agreement - I'll deal with the LR leaks if she deals with his leaks ;-) SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... > currently trying to broker an agreement - I'll deal with the LR leaks > if she deals with his leaks ;-) Wellies and protective gloves advised for either! Congrats, must be nice to get the waiting over. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >>currently trying to broker an agreement - I'll deal with the LR leaks >>if she deals with his leaks ;-) > > Wellies and protective gloves advised for either! > > Congrats, must be nice to get the waiting over. AIUI a pressure washer connected to a thermostatically temp controlled water supply is the most effective method of dealing with all manner of unwanted muck and stains! Enjoy your new bundle of fun. You can tell I'm not a parent! Richard ||| currently trying to broker an agreement - I'll deal with the LR ||| leaks if she deals with his leaks ;-) || || Wellies and protective gloves advised for either! And when (note: not if) you are changing the nappy, watch for the point of aim of the small nozzle located in the nappy area. Apparently the human eye is an irresistible target. Seen it done, with remarkable accuracy. (I have two girls, so at least my eyes were safe.) Many congrats to both of you. SignatureRich ============================== 2001 Disco II ES auto 1971 S2a 88" petrol 1991 Transit Camper Take out the obvious to email me. > And when (note: not if) you are changing the nappy, watch for the point of > aim of the small nozzle located in the nappy area. Apparently the human eye > is an irresistible target. Seen it done, with remarkable accuracy. Nah, its even funnier when they wee in their own mouths.... Eeeeewww. Steve || Richard Brookman wrote: || [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] || || Steve Gives a whole new meaning to "wetting the baby's head", I spose. SignatureRich ============================== 2001 Disco II ES auto 1971 S2a 88" petrol 1991 Transit Camper Take out the obvious to email me. On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:30:58 -0000, "Richard Brookman" <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS@btinternet.com> scribbled the following nonsense: >|| Richard Brookman wrote: >|| [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Gives a whole new meaning to "wetting the baby's head", I spose. he's just done that with dawn, straight over his belly and face to land on his forehead!! Just as he backfired as well, PMSL! SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... > he's just done that with dawn, straight over his belly and face to > land on his forehead!! Just as he backfired as well, PMSL! Hopefully not in the same place... Steve >> he's just done that with dawn, straight over his belly and face to >> land on his forehead!! Just as he backfired as well, PMSL! > >Hopefully not in the same place... > >Steve no, that went on dawn's knee, she's now in the bath!! SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... > On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:30:58 -0000, "Richard Brookman" > <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS@btinternet.com> scribbled the following [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > he's just done that with dawn, straight over his belly and face to > land on his forehead!! Just as he backfired as well, PMSL! Expect his aim will improve with advancing years. >> On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:30:58 -0000, "Richard Brookman" >> <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS@btinternet.com> scribbled the following [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Expect his aim will improve with advancing years. and range :) SignatureWilliam Tasso Land Rover - 110 V8 Discovery - V8 > currently trying to broker an agreement - I'll deal with the LR leaks > if she deals with his leaks ;-) I never thought I´d say it, but it really is different when its your own. Honest. Congrats from us all . Steve, Lizzy and the monsters. > Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started > last night. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > He's got that much hair, he looks linke a silverback gorilla! Congratulation matey, hope everythings OK!! Signature'Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar WANTED Kawasaki ZZR 1100 D series in mint nick > Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last > night. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > He's got that much hair, he looks linke a silverback gorilla! Congratulations to you both! At least there will be some late night traffic on the group now ;-) Lee D On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:08:01 -0000, "Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> scribbled the following nonsense: >> Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last >> night. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Lee D he's currently sat on my knee being educated!!!!! Seems mesmerised by the screen.... Wonder when I can get him started on the dodgy 3rd to 2nd gear change on burrt....... SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... > Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last> > night. > Arrived at 2:15 this morning, weighing in at 7lbs 9oz, decided to call > him Harry, and he will be in tow next year during the show season! > > Dawn was sent home with him at 10am this morning! Both doing well, > and he's already been laning! Excellent, congratulations. Take care to hothouse him in all things LR. John H > Take care to hothouse him in all things LR. At this point, someone needs to repost the link to a set of plans for a Land Rover pedal car that surface from time to time ;-) SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> Take care to hothouse him in all things LR. > > At this point, someone needs to repost the link to a set of plans for > a Land Rover pedal car that surface from time to time ;-) hehehehe - he can't even focus yet Ian!!! Let alone pedal!! TBH i wouldn't mind those plans for a mate? Signature'Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you' Nige Subaru WRX (54) Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph) BMW 650 GS Dakar WANTED Kawasaki ZZR 1100 D series in mint nick > hehehehe - he can't even focus yet Ian!!! Let alone pedal!! Doesn't stop some of the drivers around my area... Given the amount of spare time a new dad has, I'd suggest he gets the plans and starts now, might be finished by the time the lad's 8... > TBH i wouldn't mind those plans for a mate? I don't know where they are, you could probably dig them up via google groups, I'm fairly sure a link's been posted here within the last year. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> hehehehe - he can't even focus yet Ian!!! Let alone pedal!! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > groups, I'm fairly sure a link's been posted here within the last > year. Ordered a set off a chap on Mud club who had bought them with all the best intentions... just awaiting there arrival. Toylander http://www.reallifetoys.co.uk/index.html Lee D > Ordered a set off a chap on Mud club who had bought them with all the best > intentions... just awaiting there arrival. > > http://www.reallifetoys.co.uk/index.html Heh, nice toys, dreadful website though! I thought there were some publically available plans too, perhaps my mind's playing tricks with me again. The large white rabbit with the wristwatch reckons it is. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! > hehehehe - he can't even focus yet Ian!!! Let alone pedal!! Should make a good LR driver then :-)) >> Take care to hothouse him in all things LR. > >At this point, someone needs to repost the link to a set of plans for >a Land Rover pedal car that surface from time to time ;-) i'm building one!!! Already got the body and the most of the chassis done, picked up the 24 wheel chair motors from Hugh (of doodlebug the 101 fame) at Billing this summer! SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... > i'm building one!!! Already got the body and the most of the chassis > done, picked up the 24 wheel chair motors from Hugh (of doodlebug the > 101 fame) at Billing this summer! 24 motors, or 24V ? Steve >> i'm building one!!! Already got the body and the most of the chassis >> done, picked up the 24 wheel chair motors from Hugh (of doodlebug the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Steve its gonna be quick!!! 24V... SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... >>> i'm building one!!! Already got the body and the most of the chassis >>> done, picked up the 24 wheel chair motors from Hugh (of doodlebug the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > its gonna be quick!!! 24V... How are you supplying the drive? o One motor to each wheel? o Driving just one wheel? o pukka transfer box thingie? SignatureWilliam Tasso Land Rover - 110 V8 Discovery - V8 >>>> i'm building one!!! Already got the body and the most of the chassis >>>> done, picked up the 24 wheel chair motors from Hugh (of doodlebug the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >o Driving just one wheel? >o pukka transfer box thingie? dunno yet, have matched motors, so one for each rear wheel is a possibility, also have a complete invalid scooter thingy which has a motor and rear axle to allow one motor to drive the rear wheels. Also been thinking about trying to develop a system allowing true 4 wheel drive by one motor to each axle and system of UJs or somesuch, but probably not got enough tuits for something so complex! Also got a 4 stroke suffolk punch lawn mower engine, but thats for the 101 scale model I intend building when I get enough tuits (and will be my toy!) SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... > dunno yet, have matched motors, so one for each rear wheel is a > possibility, also have a complete invalid scooter thingy which has a > motor and rear axle to allow one motor to drive the rear wheels. Also > been thinking about trying to develop a system allowing true 4 wheel > drive by one motor to each axle and system of UJs or somesuch, but > probably not got enough tuits for something so complex! Well.... just had it all laid out on the living room floor... blimey theres some saw blades going to be needed there! How did you do the half round? Is it a router job? Hope so I've only used mine about three or four times previously :-) I've put it all away but for the book so the dawgs could come in for a social... now I'm going to try and get my head around the handbrake. I'm quite looking forward to fabricating as many parts as I can... and it'll be nice not to be covered in dirt and grease for a change :-) I think 2 motors is deffo the way to go... I've a vision of a fleet of them.... H'mmm I could scale it up and do a CSW I guess too for the next one, oooo got some cammo net too :-) Lee D On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:18:43 -0000, "Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> scribbled the following nonsense: >> dunno yet, have matched motors, so one for each rear wheel is a >> possibility, also have a complete invalid scooter thingy which has a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Lee D I've got the rebel replica one, doesn't call for any rounding using the router, but I have rounded mine using the sander, given that mine was 12mm MDF, there isn't really enough to run both sides through properly with the router. First job is to photocopy the plans several times and then put the originals somewhere safe. Did this and was pleased I did after I managed to get the photocopies all manky and scribbled on! SignatureSimon Isaacs "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote" George Jean Nathan (1882-1955) ROT13 me.... > I've got the rebel replica one, doesn't call for any rounding using > the router, but I have rounded mine using the sander, given that mine [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > originals somewhere safe. Did this and was pleased I did after I > managed to get the photocopies all manky and scribbled on! Indeed... no mention of a router in the list of toys... er tools. These templates are massive, bigger than A3 and I'm not clued up enough to know the size for owt that big. Lee D Signaturewww.lrproject.com BEWARE :- It seems many peoples 13mm spanners are being 1/2 inched....... >> I've got the rebel replica one, doesn't call for any rounding using >> the router, but I have rounded mine using the sander, given that mine [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > templates are massive, bigger than A3 and I'm not clued up enough to know > the size for owt that big. A2 is double A3 A1 is double A2 A0 is double A1 /disclaimer: all afair High street print/copy shop should be able to make copies and/or reductions. SignatureWilliam Tasso Land Rover - 110 V8 Discovery - V8 >>> I've got the rebel replica one, doesn't call for any rounding using >>> the router, but I have rounded mine using the sander, given that mine [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >/disclaimer: all afair they are indeed, I think there's an A0A as well. Put 2x 210x297 A4 side by side and you get 297x420 which is A3, etc. cut A4 in half on the long side you get erm...148.5x210: A5. and so on. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that 0123456789112345678921234567893123456789412345678951234567896123456789712345 1 weebl: What's this? | in recognition of the fun that is weebl and bob 2 bob: it a SigRuler! | check out the weebl and bob archive: 3 weebl: How Handy! | http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/archives.php >>> I've got the rebel replica one, doesn't call for any rounding using >>> the router, but I have rounded mine using the sander, given that [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > High street print/copy shop should be able to make copies and/or > reductions. the doubling is along the long side! >trying to develop a system allowing true 4 wheel >drive by one motor to each axle and system of UJs or somesuch, but >probably not got enough tuits for something so complex! 4 motors, one on each wheel. YKIMS. I'd love to do that on a full-sized one. motor-generator and 4 traction motors, and a bit of electronic trickery to control the drive. Variable speed motors, probably using thyristors or similar, run it on 3-phase AC and you can get most of the control gear off the shelf for industrial machinery. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Soon shall thy arm, unconquered steam! afar Drag the slow barge, or drive the rapid car; Or on wide-waving wings expanded bear the flying chariot through the field of air.- Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802) >> trying to develop a system allowing true 4 wheel >> drive by one motor to each axle and system of UJs or somesuch, but [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > run it on 3-phase AC and you can get most of the control gear off the > shelf for industrial machinery. Down boy, you got a minibus todo first! >>> trying to develop a system allowing true 4 wheel >>> drive by one motor to each axle and system of UJs or somesuch, but [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Down boy, you got a minibus todo first! hmmm. this is true. And that's now scheduled for next summer... SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that 0123456789112345678921234567893123456789412345678951234567896123456789712345 1 weebl: What's this? | in recognition of the fun that is weebl and bob 2 bob: it a SigRuler! | check out the weebl and bob archive: 3 weebl: How Handy! | http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/archives.php Also > been thinking about trying to develop a system allowing true 4 wheel > drive by one motor to each axle and system of UJs or somesuch, but > probably not got enough tuits for something so complex! If you have a motor on each wheel, you wouldn´t need any transmission at all, in series the motors will self-differential, in parallel they won´t. It would mean you also have to repatch the battery pack, else in parallell mode, the drive would be very seriously interesting, since the motors would be 100% overvoltage. Can you say "pole position" Baby Isaacs ? Steve > It would mean you also have to repatch the battery pack, else in > parallell mode, the drive would be very seriously interesting, since > the motors would be 100% overvoltage. I think at this rate he's not only going to need a crash helmet, but also a model Sankey trailer to carry all the batteries! SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! > Also >> been thinking about trying to develop a system allowing true 4 wheel [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >If you have a motor on each wheel, you wouldn´t need any transmission at >all, in series the motors will self-differential, will they? spose they might at that; each motor will get an equal share of current. >in parallel they won't. hmmm. not sure about this one. A motor with no grip in a parallel situation can't steal all the torque in the same way as wheel on an open diff. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria" - Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno' >> in parallel they won't. > > hmmm. not sure about this one. A motor with no grip in a parallel > situation can't steal all the torque in the same way as wheel on an open > diff. No, I think my point is that the motors are essentially now in "locked" diff mode - all wheels will turn, if the battery impedance is very low. Steve >>> in parallel they won't. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >No, I think my point is that the motors are essentially now in "locked" >diff mode - all wheels will turn, if the battery impedance is very low. well, yeah. but what stops 'em doing that wired in parallel? SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>>> in parallel they won't. >>> hmmm. not sure about this one. A motor with no grip in a parallel [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > well, yeah. but what stops 'em doing that wired in parallel? They CAN all turn, but the wheels that are spinning freely take naff all current. Steve >>>>> in parallel they won't. >>>> hmmm. not sure about this one. A motor with no grip in a parallel [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >They CAN all turn, but the wheels that are spinning freely take naff all >current. wheels with resistance would draw more, though? It's torque that counts, after all. Provided a free-spinning wheel can't rob power from a not-spinning one. I'm trying to determine whether it needs complicated driving systems or whether you simply feed all 4 motors in parallel and let the unloaded wheels spin if they want to. They'll soon slow down if/when they get any grip. meanwhile the wheels under load will draw more current and produce more torque. Maybe. then again, in terms of speed control and efficiency, I reckon a fullsize one running off a generator would do better on AC, but I've not looked into it in detail. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "There are three sorts of people in the world - those who can count, and those who can't" (Anon) > wheels with resistance would draw more, though? It's torque that counts, > after all. Provided a free-spinning wheel can't rob power from a > not-spinning one. Exactly, hence my comment about the low resistance battery supply. > I'm trying to determine whether it needs complicated driving systems or > whether you simply feed all 4 motors in parallel and let the unloaded wheels > spin if they want to. They'll soon slow down if/when they get any grip. > meanwhile the wheels under load will draw more current and produce more > torque. Maybe. Yes. > then again, in terms of speed control and efficiency, I reckon a fullsize > one running off a generator would do better on AC, but I've not looked into > it in detail. Its generally reckoned that permanent magnet, brushless DC drives are the most efficient motors available, or possibly even possible IYSWIM. STeve PS Parcel arrived. Ta. >Its generally reckoned that permanent magnet, brushless DC drives are >the most efficient motors available, or possibly even possible IYSWIM. hmmm. wonder how the overall efficiency stacks up with variable speed drives... one advantage of DC would be that you could do a hybrid with batteries as well to cover power surge requirements, and a smaller generator a la toyota prius. voltage is another thing - you'd want it to run as high a voltage as reasonably practical to minimise the current required. >STeve > >PS Parcel arrived. Ta. ah, good, I was meaning to ask about that. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that "I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell" Gen. Sherman (1820-1891) Attr. words in Address at Michigan Military Academy, 19 June 1879. > hmmm. wonder how the overall efficiency stacks up with variable speed > drives... one advantage of DC would be that you could do a hybrid with > batteries as well to cover power surge requirements, and a smaller generator > a la toyota prius. voltage is another thing - you'd want it to run as high > a voltage as reasonably practical to minimise the current required. You want to run at a high voltage, but your control comes from switch mode electronics feeding the thing. You really want > 200 V DC. Steve >Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last >night. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >He's got that much hair, he looks linke a silverback gorilla! Congratulations and good health and happiness to young Harry. regards Terry congratulations! :) Congratulations. Seems only yesterday that I was anouncing the birth of my first (and last) little one on this group. Now she's six and a half months old. I'll pass on the advice which I found to be true. 1.) It IS different when they are your own (i didn't like kids when i was one!!) 2.) They are more robust than you would imagine 3.) If they are troublesome and driving you up the wall hang on a week or so and it will pass, even if its for something worse at least it keeps you on your toes! I'm also proud of the fact that the first car journey my 3 day old daughter took was in the ol Range Rover from the hospital to home. I'm sure it's contributed to her being such a contented baby. All the very best. Dave > Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last > night. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > He's got that much hair, he looks linke a silverback gorilla! Congratulations to you both and to the new arrival. Babies are so like Landrovers lovable- though they drive you to distraction, leaks and dribbles come standard, they have a distinctive smell (s) make all sorts of worrying and odd noises and they outlast practically every desirable object you can name in your affections. a very Harry Christmas to you Derek : Congratulations to you both and to the new arrival. : Babies are so like Landrovers lovable- though they drive you to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : Derek And they can empty your wallet faster than SWMBO on a mission :-) Congrats to you all. Oh, and my two'pence worth of advice, a v8 don't half help them sleep ;-) Both of my reprobates were brought home in the Rangie, and we we're regularly out and about off road by the time they were six months (5 and 2 now). Funniest time for me was with the eldest, he was about 8 months old, and we were going out on a jolly, just me and him, with a large group, that was mainly newbies. A lady and her (18 year old) daughter came up to me "Is your wife here?" "no" "is she meeting us there?" "no" "well HOW are you going to change his nappy?" I dropped the tailgate and showed her the boon to nappy changing that is the flat carpeted surface of a RRC bottom tailgate with air suspension fully raised :-) Si > "Is your wife here?" > "no" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Si yeahs portable rivet guns are a wicked invention ;-) Lee D And I thought you were referring to a Kenlowe not a sprog. I suppose congratulations are in order, lets hope there are still landies in the world for him to drive when he is old enough. SignatureLarry Series 3 rust and holes > Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last > night. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > He's got that much hair, he looks linke a silverback gorilla! >Decided to make his presence known just as the PF concert started last >night. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >He's got that much hair, he looks linke a silverback gorilla! Congratulations to you and Dawn from Neil and Diane (and crazy dog Cody!) (Reply via NG please) |
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