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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / May 2007

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Getting Battery Out of Disco! How do you do it??!

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McBad - 28 May 2007 14:40 GMT
Have spent the last half hour pissing off my neighbours.

How do I get the battery out of my 300TDi 1998 Discovery, so that I
can replace it with a new one?  Every time I disconnect it the alarm
goes off.

I am following the handbook instructions which say...

Turn the ignition key to position 'on' and then 'off' and remove the
key and within 15 seconds disconnect the battery, negative lead first.

(This is not helped by the fact that there is no definition of
position 'on', all the rest of the handbook refers to positions '0',
'I', 'II' and 'III'.)

Any clues would be much appreciated.

Thanks

M.

300 TDI Defender - which won't start
300 TDI Disco - which won't start
Tom Woods - 28 May 2007 14:46 GMT
you could use a pair of jump leads to connect the new one in parallel
first and while you swap em so that the alarm never looses power. or
give the truck some power through the fag lighter socket to keep the
alarm happy.
Rich B - 28 May 2007 16:20 GMT
> Have spent the last half hour pissing off my neighbours.
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> 300 TDI Defender - which won't start
> 300 TDI Disco - which won't start

It's "on", as in "dash warning lights on" - what would be called "ignition
on" on a petrol motor.  Position I won't do it.  Worked for me every time.
If this doesn't work, summat's wrong.  Tom's suggestion about the jump leads
is a good 'un.

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Take out the obvious to email me.

McBad - 28 May 2007 18:57 GMT
On 28 May, 16:20, "Rich B" <richardTHEOBVIOUSbrook...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
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OK, thanks.  I have tried again but it didn't work for me (turned key,
saw all normal starting lights on dash, turned key off, hopped out
(with the key) and pulled off the negative lead, siren goes off)....
so I just put up with the noise and the twitching curtains and swopped
the batteries over anyway.

Result, it started fine....

...but now, having turned it off again, it won't start.  Turns over
fine, loads of life in the battery, but just won't fire.  :o(

I am getting so bored of fighting with this vehicle; I've got to drive
150 miles to work tomorrow morning and it looks as if it is going to
let me down again.  It was running fine this morning (and, after being
jump started did 100 miles without missing a beat) now it just doesn't
want to play.

Scratching head and flicking through Haynes manual.

:o(

M.
Marc Draper - 28 May 2007 19:06 GMT
>Have spent the last half hour pissing off my neighbours.
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>Any clues would be much appreciated.

Hi

It is a pretty common fault.

Several of my customers are like that.

You just need to be quick at swapping the battery ;-)
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McBad - 28 May 2007 19:31 GMT
Ooops!

OK, I'll get my hat!

As everyone will have spotted this was because I'd been pfaffing
around with the back door open and the engine immobiliser had kicked
in.

Mobile again for the time being.  :o)

M.

Disco 300 Tdi - working fine
Defender 90 300Tdi - not working at all.
TonyB - 28 May 2007 20:11 GMT
> Ooops!
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> Mobile again for the time being.  :o)

At least you'll be able to get to work tomorrow!

BTW, I'm told the rear wiper doesn't work with the back door open either.

TonyB
McBad - 29 May 2007 07:26 GMT
> > OK, I'll get my hat!
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> TonyB

I would say LOL, only it aint funny.

Hopped in the car this morning at 6.00am to drive up to London
and...  ...surprise, surprise... it won't start.  Engine is turning
over fine to my brand new battery but it just won't fire up.  And,
this time for sure, the immobiliser has  not kicked in.  This has now
cost me a days work and I am seriously unhappy (as will my client be).

I will be talking to the garage from which I recently bought this car
later this morning, with a view to them taking it back and giving me a
full refund.  I will then go out and see if I can find a nice reliable
Ford Focus or VW Golf.

Regards,

M.
McBad - 30 May 2007 00:06 GMT
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Just for info, the saga continues.  Garage sent a trained land rover
mechanic over to the house on a motorbike this afternoon.  He removed
the radio and was expecting to find a fault with something called a
'spider', only there was no spider.  He pulled everything apart and
tested every fuse and eventually found a suspect connection in the
black plug where the immobiliser circuit goes to the fuel pump in the
engine bay. Replacing this seemed to give reliable starting and an end
to the problems.  Smiles all round.

However, I stopped for sandwiches at Reading Services this evening on
the M4.  After a ten minute break attempting to restart the car gave
exactly the same non-firing symptoms as before, as well as a strong
urge to jump in front of a big truck.  Sat for half an hour waiting
for the AA (I've got them on speed-dial now) and then, out of boredom,
tried starting it again.  Fired up perfectly.  Cancelled the AA and
came on here to Surrey.  No idea if it will start again tomorrow to go
to the clients site.

Also this evening when i was trying to start it there was a feint
buzzing noise from the area around the back of the radio; that is
new.  Sometimes before and sometimes after turning the key.  No idea
what is causing any of this.

Anyway, I'm sure there will be further instalments in this story...

Cheers,
M.
Neil Brownlee - 30 May 2007 10:44 GMT
Just for the record - simply unplug the siren before removing battery. Makes
life much more bearable!

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TonyB - 30 May 2007 21:32 GMT
> Just for the record - simply unplug the siren before removing battery.
> Makes
> life much more bearable!

I don't think it's that easy!
TonyB
 
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