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Lee_D - 26 Aug 2007 21:24 GMT Absoblumenlutely bloody fantastic!
Come back a day early due to the Bank holiday and work so most of the possie are still there.
Bill is providing entertainment in his usual manner ;-) (and reports as we left the site were he was at it again!) .... we've done some lane clearance and debated the use of the particular lane with the local Nimby as we really upset the applecart by clearing t fallen [1] tree. My wadders and saw from lidl came in very handy. Mark snapped Niges chopper clean in half too after Nige told Mark to hit it like a man....lol! (You had to be there!)
We did three fords which according to Si were half a wheel depth..... we quickly established they were half way up the door which proved too much temptation for such intreped adventures, fueled by peer pressure and testosterone.
Bill decided that the V8 was getting a little thirsty and came to a controlled halt in the middle of a ford (really?) and procedded to test the water resistance of the seats.... inverter.... walkie talkies and maps. Mark quickly came to the resuce whislt Si stood up to his waist in the stream , Mark reversed in and Si spent a good couple of minutes trying to attach a rope to an nonexistant under water towball....funny as hell! All the cars safely on dry land and Bill turned the Disco in to a jet wash to ensure all silt remained in the stream and not on the road..... when I stop grinning so much I'll upload some piccys.
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madhatchetman - 27 Aug 2007 09:53 GMT > Absoblumenlutely bloody fantastic! > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Lee D Yeah that was great! My disco has collected some nice scratches (ouch) and a bit of the rear bumper is hanging loosely. Here are some of my pics: http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k299/madhatchetman/?action=view¤t=23c80f 97.pbw
Mark Solesbury - 27 Aug 2007 12:35 GMT > Absoblumenlutely bloody fantastic! > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Lee D Im just uploading my pics now.
What a superb weekend. Best camping trip of my life.
Lee, you missed a cracker at the Off Road site on Sunday.....
Simon I went through a bombhole, full of muddy silt, and just made it though. Bill followed in the V8, but just couldnt manage to get over the crest... Reversed back hard to get a good run. The engine died, and a massive hissssssss was heard.. Terminal? We all thought so for a bit..
The water was well over the rear step, so we volunteered Bills lad to wade in and try and attach a rope to the tow bar - But it wasnt there. The silt was so - silty? that it had solidified and could take Christopher's weight so it only looked a few inches deep!
Tried to pull it from the front, and both mine and Paulxxx's disco would not shift it an inch. Sommat aint right here we all thought..
Turned out that during the reverse back, the rear backbox had filled to the top of mud and was solid. The hiss was from the gasses in the exhaust seeping out from the joins.
After about an hour and a half, we got it back to the top had a brew, bent the exhaust back into shape and modified the rear hanger a bit with a big bar.
The V8 still had the last laugh though. After it was up to the bonnet in water, and stuck fast in a mud hole, the gearbox oil cooler decided to start leaking... Which we tried to fix using hose from Nige's caravan - But it beat us in the end... I left just as the AA man arrived on Monday morning.
The weekend was absolutly superb. Big thanks to Si for sorting it out, and to everyone else that was there for making it memorable.
Bec has taken loads of pics, which are uploading now - But there is one that I think summs up the weekend perfectly.
http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/afl-unofficial-1/august-2007/img0975.html
The rest will be here, if my laptop battery lasts long enough :)
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Lee_D - 27 Aug 2007 16:35 GMT Mark Solesbury <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Im just uploading my pics now. > > What a superb weekend. Best camping trip of my life. > > Lee, you missed a cracker at the Off Road site on Sunday..... Typical init!
> The weekend was absolutly superb. Big thanks to Si for sorting it out, > and to everyone else that was there for making it memorable. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/afl-unofficial-1/august-2007/ Cracking pictures there!
Nige should be rolling again now.. probably on a low loader, got a text from him. He's doing an impression of a gypo on the A1 with a broken water pump pulley. Claimed a few victims this one though nowt serious thus far.
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Paul - xxx (mobile) - 27 Aug 2007 17:09 GMT > Mark Solesbury > <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> uttered [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > him. He's doing an impression of a gypo on the A1 with a broken water pump > pulley. Claimed a few victims this one though nowt serious thus far. Jeez, I should have read all this thread before I posted ... hopefully Nige's brakes are OK ... ;)
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.mother - 27 Aug 2007 18:46 GMT >Nige should be rolling again now.. probably on a low loader, got a text from >him. He's doing an impression of a gypo on the A1 with a broken water pump >pulley. Claimed a few victims this one though nowt serious thus far. Sounds smashing, shame 'herself' decided to damage bones an all, we'd probably have made it. You need to expect a few mechanical casualties on an event like this, tis a right of passage.
What's the story with the NIMBY - and why on earth didn't anyone have a chainsaw to clear a jungle ;-)
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Lee_D - 27 Aug 2007 19:25 GMT .mother <nospam@nominet.name> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> Nige should be rolling again now.. probably on a low loader, got a >> text from him. He's doing an impression of a gypo on the A1 with a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > What's the story with the NIMBY - and why on earth didn't anyone have > a chainsaw to clear a jungle ;-) The Jury is still out on wether or not the tree blocking the lane had been "helped" down.
The quotes from the Nimby such as "You can't drive this lane it's going to be reclassified" key word being "going" and from I suspect her equally vile daughter / banjo playing ignoramus , <Insert plums> "Do the estate know what you are doing" and "You have no right to remove that tree" were met by a polite factual response from those a little more educated on the matter. For some odd reason all these years of study came flooding back.... years of study of 'tinternet that is in reference lanes and abatement.
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Oh how we chuckled as the silly bint walked in to a branch as she insisted in walking through the fallen tree. I hate seeing anyone suffer but this eliquent young lady would test the patients of a saint.
The fact that we watched two horse riders risk life and limb to get through the very deep mud to get around the tree (note not on the lane) and risk having a horse put down or personal injury seemed to be of no consequence to the Nimby's.
I did think at one point I might have to get the pioneers shovel out once Nige was in to the swing of the conversation.;-)
I had a chain saw but forgot my safety sandals ;-) so deployed my mighty chopper which was safe for use when wearing waders. Mrs_D assures me it's not the size that counts it's what you do with it. :-) I'd learn't from one of my trips with the 101 as Tom bears witness that it pays to have a chopper handy while out laning incase you should come across such an obstruction. I didn't expect future obstructions to be quite so big mind but between us all we got there by tugging un unison :-)
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Ian Rawlings - 27 Aug 2007 19:47 GMT > Oh how we chuckled as the silly bint walked in to a branch as she insisted > in walking through the fallen tree. I hate seeing anyone suffer but this > eliquent young lady would test the patients of a saint. On a nearby overgrown UCR (and I have checked at the records office) we were accosted by a local horse rider who regarded the presence of three 4x4s on the less overgrown half of the lane as some kind of personal tradgedy and started harping on about hordes of 4x4s descending on the lane and destroying it.
Funnily enough the reason we were there was to see if we could undo the damage done by horses trudging through the bad drainage spots on the lane, which make it so hard to walk you have to take a large stick to lever yourself out of thick shin-covering mud. Forget taking a bike. Considering that, and the road hazard the local horse riders create, it's a bit rich that they try to take the moral high ground.
> I'd learn't from one of my trips with the 101 as Tom bears witness > that it pays to have a chopper handy while out laning incase you > should come across such an obstruction. There's a similar tree down recently on a lane I do almost twice a week, I was going to tackle it but was running late, once home I noticed my tree-moving gear leaning up against the fence where I'd been using it to shift trees in my garden.. Must remember to stow it in the proper place!
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.mother - 27 Aug 2007 21:03 GMT >I did think at one point I might have to get the pioneers shovel out once >Nige was in to the swing of the conversation.;-) Eh? You mean Nige 'engaged in conversation' with the NIMBY? sh.t, I'm not sure I want to know...
>I had a chain saw but forgot my safety sandals ;-) so deployed my mighty >chopper which was safe for use when wearing waders. Mrs_D assures me it's >not the size that counts it's what you do with it. :-) I'd learn't from one >of my trips with the 101 as Tom bears witness that it pays to have a chopper >handy while out laning incase you should come across such an obstruction. You could have tried just telling her to f.ck off...
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Nige - 27 Aug 2007 21:04 GMT >> I did think at one point I might have to get the pioneers shovel >> out once Nige was in to the swing of the conversation.;-) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You could have tried just telling her to f.ck off... Which is the correct answer, f.cking bogtrotting bitch. I was 2 seconds away from doing just that, but thought better of it. Should have kicked her in the c.nt instead. f.cking pervert husband taking photos, i just wanted to bite his f.cking head off.
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Ian Rawlings - 27 Aug 2007 21:11 GMT > f.cking pervert husband taking photos, i just wanted to bite his > f.cking head off. Should have taken some of them, I'll bet they'd moan about it if you did..
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Austin Shackles - 28 Aug 2007 09:20 GMT >>> I did think at one point I might have to get the pioneers shovel >>> out once Nige was in to the swing of the conversation.;-) [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >her in the c.nt instead. f.cking pervert husband taking photos, i just >wanted to bite his f.cking head off. angon, you had minors with you, n'est-ce pas (practicing for Froggy unofficial)?
You should have demanded his name and address pursuant to child protection legislation as he was taking pictures of children...
when we do harchery shoots, we have to get anyone wielding a camera to give details. fecking silly, I reckon.
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Tim Jones - 28 Aug 2007 22:44 GMT >when we do harchery shoots, we have to get anyone wielding a camera to give >details. fecking silly, I reckon. Ecceedingly silly. There's no legal requirement for anything of the sort. Who made the rule up?
Austin Shackles - 29 Aug 2007 14:15 GMT >>when we do harchery shoots, we have to get anyone wielding a camera to give >>details. fecking silly, I reckon. > >Ecceedingly silly. There's no legal requirement for anything of the >sort. Who made the rule up? GNAS, the governing body. They're much bothered about child protection, probably following government guidelines, and doing the full arse-covering exercise.
The child protection thing is, as usual, blown up out of all proportion. I approve of some of it, for example not having children alone with only 1 adult, which is as much for the adult's protection as for the children. But some of it's bloody silly.
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Tim Jones - 29 Aug 2007 20:45 GMT >>>when we do harchery shoots, we have to get anyone wielding a camera to give >>>details. fecking silly, I reckon. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >probably following government guidelines, and doing the full arse-covering >exercise. There are no governement guidelines on photographing minoirs taking part in bona fide events. Obviously this doesn't stop some sporting NGBs from making up such absurd rules ;(
>The child protection thing is, as usual, blown up out of all proportion. I >approve of some of it, for example not having children alone with only 1 >adult, which is as much for the adult's protection as for the children. But >some of it's bloody silly. We have noticed that GNAS can gold plate things rather better than any other NGBs we encounter ;(
Austin Shackles - 30 Aug 2007 08:43 GMT >>>>when we do harchery shoots, we have to get anyone wielding a camera to give >>>>details. fecking silly, I reckon. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >part in bona fide events. Obviously this doesn't stop some sporting >NGBs from making up such absurd rules ;( like I say, arse-covering, carried to extremes.
>>The child protection thing is, as usual, blown up out of all proportion. I >>approve of some of it, for example not having children alone with only 1 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >We have noticed that GNAS can gold plate things rather better than any >other NGBs we encounter ;( yeah. However, they're not alone in this trait by any means. I suspect that any NGB or other NGO with children involved that fails to make such rules will be pilloried in the gutter press for failing to care for the children, so they tend to go OTT, then they can point to this and act all self-righteous and say "well WE have exceeded the government guidelines in these IMPORTANT ways".
's all a load of crap, TBH - the only things I do agree with are the guidelines on one-on-one coaching and the like (don't...) and on number of adults, and I agree with that 'cos it offers me some chance of protection of someone comes up with a fatuous claim about me, or at least another witness to call, and furthermore, if I comply with the NGB guidelines, I can maybe call their people in to defend me - it's a sure bet that if I DON'T comply, then they'll happily let me hang.
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GbH - 30 Aug 2007 09:54 GMT >>>>> when we do harchery shoots, we have to get anyone wielding a >>>>> camera to give details. fecking silly, I reckon. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > like I say, arse-covering, carried to extremes. The bigger the arse, the more the cover?
>>> The child protection thing is, as usual, blown up out of all >>> proportion. I approve of some of it, for example not having [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > it's a sure bet that if I DON'T comply, then they'll happily let me > hang.
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Lee_D - 27 Aug 2007 21:14 GMT .mother <nospam@nominet.name> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> I did think at one point I might have to get the pioneers shovel out >> once Nige was in to the swing of the conversation.;-) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You could have tried just telling her to f.ck off...
:-) we cut the tree up for anyone who may be confused, not the Nimby. The Nimby lived to moan another day though there is a counterstike planned for the rather biased member of the Parish council once we have the necessary details :-) power of the pen and all that. After all we'd done nowt wrong, were going about our own lawful business and certainly weren't about to be bullied or intimidated by a tool with a camera.
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AJG - 27 Aug 2007 23:28 GMT >:-) we cut the tree up for anyone who may be confused, not the Nimby. The >Nimby lived to moan another day though there is a counterstike planned for >the rather biased member of the Parish council once we have the necessary >details :-) power of the pen and all that. After all we'd done nowt wrong, >were going about our own lawful business and certainly weren't about to be >bullied or intimidated by a tool with a camera. Any chance of telling us which lane the tree was blocking (map ref or lane number and position)? We've got a Norfolk 4x4 Forum meeting with Norfolk County Council coming up and we 'push' blocked lanes very hard ... whether it was deliberate or not we can keep an eye on the track to make sure it doesn't recur.
I assume it was Dersingham site that you played on? It can be a real panel killer, glad to know people enjoyed it!
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Lee_D - 27 Aug 2007 23:38 GMT AJG <ND@nospam.demon.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> :-) we cut the tree up for anyone who may be confused, not the >> Nimby. The Nimby lived to moan another day though there is a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I assume it was Dersingham site that you played on? It can be a real > panel killer, glad to know people enjoyed it! I think if you email Si he will be able to fill in the blanks.
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Paul - xxx - 28 Aug 2007 11:44 GMT >> :-) we cut the tree up for anyone who may be confused, not the Nimby. The >> Nimby lived to moan another day though there is a counterstike planned [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I assume it was Dersingham site that you played on? It can be a real > panel killer, glad to know people enjoyed it! http://www.flickr.com/photos/35295373@N00/1256506507/
Screen grab of my memory map track showing the lane/first ford that was blocked by a tree. The actual blocked lane is the one almost in the centre of the pic, to the left of the purple footprint symbol (footpath) and is the jumble of lines where we were parked a while ubder trees and I guess GPS got confused a bit. ;)
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Mark Solesbury - 28 Aug 2007 12:16 GMT >>> :-) we cut the tree up for anyone who may be confused, not the Nimby. >>> The [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > and is the jumble of lines where we were parked a while ubder trees and > I guess GPS got confused a bit. ;) Paul - What gps do you use, and can you mail me the route we took please?
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Paul - xxx - 29 Aug 2007 10:27 GMT >>>> :-) we cut the tree up for anyone who may be confused, not the >>>> Nimby. The [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Marksolesbury at "the search engine that seems to do everything"mail.com I use a Mitac Mio 168, also branded as a Navman Pin and loads of others.
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/mitacmio168.php
Having trouble with main computer at the moment, so will send a copy of the track later today, if I can get it all going together. ;)
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Paul - xxx - 29 Aug 2007 14:28 GMT >>>> :-) we cut the tree up for anyone who may be confused, not the >>>> Nimby. The [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Marksolesbury at "the search engine that seems to do everything"mail.com YHM
The route goes onto two maps, so I've sent them too. ;)
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Simon Isaacs - 28 Aug 2007 19:35 GMT >>:-) we cut the tree up for anyone who may be confused, not the Nimby. The >>Nimby lived to moan another day though there is a counterstike planned for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >I assume it was Dersingham site that you played on? It can be a real >panel killer, glad to know people enjoyed it! West Acre, the lane that has a single ford. Has been reported to Norfolk CC on numerous occasions due to delliberately placed logs etc..... -- "For those who are missing Blair - aim more carefully."
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.mother - 29 Aug 2007 18:05 GMT >West Acre, the lane that has a single ford. Has been reported to >Norfolk CC on numerous occasions due to delliberately placed logs Yebut one mans logs is anothers firewood, though...
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Lee_D - 30 Aug 2007 00:23 GMT .mother <nospam@nominet.name> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> West Acre, the lane that has a single ford. Has been reported to >> Norfolk CC on numerous occasions due to delliberately placed logs > > Yebut one mans logs is anothers firewood, though... Well indeed - it's bought me back down to earth. I had a vision of miss prim and proper curling one down.
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Paul - xxx (mobile) - 27 Aug 2007 17:06 GMT >> Absoblumenlutely bloody fantastic! >> [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/afl-unofficial-1/august-2007/ Nice pics Mark/Bec.
Yup, such an eventful weekend it's hard to take in just how much happened, for some even before the weekend really started. Hope Nige's brakes were OK on the way home... and that Bills AA man really was a nice man ... ;)
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Lee_D - 27 Aug 2007 20:25 GMT Mark Solesbury <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Bec has taken loads of pics, which are uploading now - But there is > one that I think summs up the weekend perfectly. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/afl-unofficial-1/august-2007/ And my humble effort is here :-)
http://www.zen79997.zen.co.uk/unofficial07norfolk/index.html
Any one wants any I'll post'em on, just shout up. That exhaust is a pisser! Poor thing.
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Mark Solesbury - 27 Aug 2007 20:27 GMT > Mark Solesbury > <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> uttered [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Lee D http://www.zen79997.zen.co.uk/unofficial07norfolk/imagepages/image34.html
Hmm... I wonder why it died!
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Simon Isaacs - 28 Aug 2007 19:36 GMT >> Mark Solesbury >> <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> uttered [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Hmm... I wonder why it died! Bill being a techie has a binary accelerator pedal..... -- "For those who are missing Blair - aim more carefully."
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Simon Isaacs - 28 Aug 2007 19:32 GMT >The V8 still had the last laugh though. After it was up to the bonnet in >water, and stuck fast in a mud hole, the gearbox oil cooler decided to >start leaking... Which we tried to fix using hose from Nige's caravan - >But it beat us in the end... I left just as the AA man arrived on Monday >morning. The AA Man got Bill going with................................................
A large length of hose and some jubilee clips......
just remind remind me what we tried doing????!!!!!
Good job we didn't go back to mine for that oil cooler, the unions are different!! -- "For those who are missing Blair - aim more carefully."
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Paul - xxx (mobile) - 27 Aug 2007 17:04 GMT > Absoblumenlutely bloody fantastic! > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > silt remained in the stream and not on the road..... when I stop grinning so > much I'll upload some piccys. A most excellent weekend. We've been home a while now, but un-loaded, then needed to get stuff sorted, then fed and watered ... then fell asleep!
Gotta say a big thanks to Simon for arranging it.
Cracking days laneing, Bill was really up for it and good value for money. ;) Brilliant little 'play' area, very technical, nicely muddy and again Bill got in the action straight away. ;)
Nice to put faces to names and will most definitely be up for more meets.
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Paul - xxx (mobile) - 27 Aug 2007 17:31 GMT > Absoblumenlutely bloody fantastic! Couple of pics (Me cross-axled and stuck) from Play day and three from Yorkshire Dales earlier this year with Nige and Andy.
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TonyB - 27 Aug 2007 18:28 GMT Whereabouts in Norfolk were you?
I'm annoyed I missed coming to watch! TonyB
Paul - xxx (mobile) - 27 Aug 2007 19:59 GMT > Whereabouts in Norfolk were you? > > I'm annoyed I missed coming to watch! > TonyB Stayed at Diglea camping/caravan site in Snettisham. Green-laning was part of the Peddars Way and the Play Day was in a wood that Peterborough 4x4 club rent out. Top marks to Simon for sorting it all out. ;)
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Lee_D - 27 Aug 2007 20:16 GMT Paul - xxx (mobile) <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> Whereabouts in Norfolk were you? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Peterborough 4x4 club rent out. Top marks to Simon for sorting it > all out. ;) Indeed and not forgetting Dawn who I recall had a hand in the organisation too from earlier posts. Belting effort!
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Mark Solesbury - 27 Aug 2007 20:20 GMT > Paul - xxx (mobile) <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> uttered summat worrerz > funny about: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Lee D Indeed.
And for the burgers in the woods on Sunday.
Has anyone heard back from Nige at all?
Sounds like the pully/impellor has sheard of the water pump? Overtight?
Hope they all get back ok.
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Lee_D - 27 Aug 2007 20:42 GMT Mark Solesbury <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> Paul - xxx (mobile) <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> uttered summat >> worrerz funny about: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Overtight? > Hope they all get back ok. Did Bill go under his own steam (literally!) or via a recovery truck?
Where art though Wild Billy Two tents?
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Simon Isaacs - 28 Aug 2007 19:39 GMT >Mark Solesbury ><marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> uttered [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >Lee D own steam
He has decided not to usenet for a while due to some reasons which escaped me to do with a different group. -- "For those who are missing Blair - aim more carefully."
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