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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / November 2007Freelander
Hi All I just noticeed something leaking from under the freelander (TD4) It looks like either water or PAS fluid. I cann't see anything from the top of the engine. Underneath the car is a big plastic panel, so i cannot see anything that end either. Does anyone know how the big plastic panel comes of? I can see two 10mm bolts on the rear edge, but thats about it. Thanks Vert > Hi All > > I just noticeed something leaking from under the freelander (TD4) snip > Underneath the car is a big plastic panel, so i cannot see anything that > end either. > > Does anyone know how the big plastic panel comes of? I can see two 10mm > bolts on the rear edge, but thats about it. You will need to raise the front of the car on axle stands (and secure rear wheels etc) to get under and find all the bolts _and_ screws (unless your a size zero). Going by memory I think you should find 6 bolts heavy duty bolts, 2 at rear of panel, 2 mid panel and 2 at front end (extreme left and right). They are also _about_ 6 screws along the front securing the much more light weight 'trim like bits'. A quick look around should find them all. BTW it is quite heavy so take care. When replacing the same I tend to use a 3 ton trolley jack to hold it more or less in position and to take the weight while I locate the main bolts etc. Just get them all located and tightened a bit first. It is quite easy to remove and replace when you get the knack. HTH ............... Richard >> Hi All >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > HTH ............... Richard Thanks for that Richard, I think it is a water leak that i have. Left the car a few hours and the drive is dry under the car, looks like its being forced out under pressuse. The leak is on the cam belt end on the engine. I reckon it might be the pump. Anyone else any other ideas? thanks Vert >>>Hi All >>> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Vert Smell/taste the liquid first. Does it smell like coolant/anti-freeze? Is there a definite taste? If no to both, do you have air conditioning? I don't know where the a/c drains are on a Freelander but I'm sure someone will tell you. > Smell/taste the liquid first. I'd look first, then feel it, then smell it, for taste I'd have to fairly convinced from the previous three it was only clean water. > Does it smell like coolant/anti-freeze? Is there a definite taste? > > If no to both, do you have air conditioning? I don't know where the a/c > drains are on a Freelander but I'm sure someone will tell you. It might be air con condensate but I wouldn't expect that at this time of year. Firstly I doubt the air con is actually running, as in cooling and secondly the air over the UK is fairly dry ATM anyway.  SignatureCheers new5pam@howhill.com Dave. pam is missing e-mail Just to make doubly sure -- it IS the right hand (driver's side) end of the engine we're talking about? Not the kerb side? I mention this because of the condensation drain pipes from the infernal 'central heating boiler' that lives near the left-hand headlight, and exhausts just below the bumper ahead of the front wheel. This is the time of year when the ambient temperature drops low enough for it to start coming on, doing (in my experience) very little to improve the warm-up time of the heater, and increasing the Chancellor's take on my Road Fuel Tax by a considerable amount. GRAEME ALDOUS Yorkshire HI It is diffinatly the driver side / off side. It appears to be leaking under pressure, you leav the car to cool and nothing leaks, you got for drive and get it warm, after it has been standing still a little while, you get a puddle under it. Which would support it being collant, and by the position of the leak, i'm thinking worst case it could be knackered water pump bearings even though they havent been screaming. Since it may be water pump bearings, it staying on the driveway as the last thing i want to do is strip the timing beld when the pump finally ceases up. Without getting the bottom pan off i can't see whats going on. Top looks dry and nothing leaking, again water pump will be nearer the bottom ot the engine. Thanks for the help guys. If anyone know different to me then please post, cos the only think that i know is that i know nothing. Oh dear I have just been up to the petrol station, about 3minutes away, with the freelander. A noise has become apparent, kind of like a loose belt noise. hmmmm......water pump bearings??!! Does anyone know if the pump is on the timing belt? If it is the car is staying on the drive until it is sorted out...Don't wanna strip/snap that timing belt! > Oh dear > > I have just been up to the petrol station, about 3minutes away, with the > freelander. > snip > Does anyone know if the pump is on the timing belt? I understand that on the TD4 it is 'driven' via an auxiliary drive belt ......... thinking about it further I recall just the petrol Freelanders have the coolant pump 'driven' via the timing belt ........ but don't quote me on that last bit. Richard > I understand that on the TD4 it is 'driven' via an auxiliary drive belt > ......... thinking about it further I recall just the petrol Freelanders > have the coolant pump 'driven' via the timing belt ........ but don't > quote me on that last bit. > > Richard Thanks for that Richard, i just remember what happened to my father's car when the pump siezed (i learned to spell it now) on the motor way, and stripped all of the little teeth off the timing belt (that was a ford!). Kiss your values goodbye!! LMAO >> I understand that on the TD4 it is 'driven' via an auxiliary drive belt >> ......... thinking about it further I recall just the petrol Freelanders [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Kiss your values goodbye!! LMAO The 'Ford' Freelander 2 uses belt rather than chain as in the BMW TD4. I wonder if the water pump is driven by the belt too in the Freelander 2 ......... knowing Ford I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Richard |
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