for the defender.
like bloody hens teeth. who was it who had 'em? only place I can find
advertising 'em is in holland, and that's probably out of date.

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Dougal - 22 Nov 2007 23:09 GMT
> for the defender.
>
> like bloody hens teeth. who was it who had 'em? only place I can find
> advertising 'em is in holland, and that's probably out of date.
The one's that I remember were grossly overpriced.
Ashtree Glass (http://www.ashtreeglass.co.uk/catalogue/index.php) can
provide elements, possibly even complete mirrors but I didn't look. The
elements are 'trimmable' to a degree.
I came across someone else yesterday but can't remember who. I'll look
tomorrow if I can.
Lee_D - 23 Nov 2007 00:25 GMT
Dougal <Dougal@hiskennel.free-online.co.uk> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
>> for the defender.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I came across someone else yesterday but can't remember who. I'll look
> tomorrow if I can.
Stick an oven glove over each... that should keep them warm.
;-)
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Dougal - 23 Nov 2007 16:02 GMT
>> for the defender.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I came across someone else yesterday but can't remember who. I'll look
> tomorrow if I can.
TTC (Truck and Trailer Components) also have some but nothing shows on
the website http://www.ttcuk.co.uk. Being part of Unipart you
should be also be able to get their stuff at the old Partco premises.
Derek - 22 Nov 2007 23:20 GMT
> for the defender.
>
> like bloody hens teeth. who was it who had 'em? only place I can find
> advertising 'em is in holland, and that's probably out of date.
Easy Austin my pals at Unitruck http://www.unitruck.co.uk/products.asp they
can sell you complete mirrors glasses or even just the elements to stick on
your own mirrors
Derek
Austin Shackles - 23 Nov 2007 07:38 GMT
>> for the defender.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>your own mirrors
>Derek
aha. sounds promising. elements is what I want, unless they do a heated
convex glass for the LDV convoy. I'd forgotten about them.

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Mark Solesbury - 23 Nov 2007 07:28 GMT
> for the defender.
>
> like bloody hens teeth. who was it who had 'em? only place I can find
> advertising 'em is in holland, and that's probably out of date.
ive got them on mine. They take a little while to clear, but i think its
because they are old.
If you get some, let me know how much they are as i am sure mine will
need replacing in the future..

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Dave Liquorice - 23 Nov 2007 12:17 GMT
> ive got them on mine. They take a little while to clear, but i think its
> because they are old.
I've got 'em on the DII, can't say they are particulary effective, to the
extent I took the covers off and checked the wiring for volts and heater
for continuity both of which were OK.
I think the suggestion of an oven glove or even just a plastic bag is
cheaper and probably more effective as you won't have globs of water left
from the thawed (if it ever does) frost...

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rads - 23 Nov 2007 15:57 GMT
> I think the suggestion of an oven glove or even just a plastic bag is
> cheaper and probably more effective as you won't have globs of water left
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> Cheers new5...@howhill.com
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But where can you find an optically clear oven glove?
Also wouldn't it ruin the vehicles aerodynamic efficiency?
David
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Ian Rawlings - 23 Nov 2007 16:06 GMT
> But where can you find an optically clear oven glove?
>
> Also wouldn't it ruin the vehicles aerodynamic efficiency?
Not to mention an irritating flapping sound at speed.
No, I think oven gloves are probably not a practical solution ;-)

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Lee_D - 23 Nov 2007 19:06 GMT
>> But where can you find an optically clear oven glove?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> No, I think oven gloves are probably not a practical solution ;-)
I don't think you're taking this seriously... If the windows are misted too
then other landrover owners won't see you waving. The gloves will carry on
waving and quite rightly wave franticly at greater speeds. This will also
serve as a visual warning to other motorists that you are in a flap when
changing lanes.
Lee D
Ian Rawlings - 23 Nov 2007 19:59 GMT
> I don't think you're taking this seriously... If the windows are misted too
> then other landrover owners won't see you waving.
That's what the electric blanket and the very long extension lead is
for shirley?
> The gloves will carry on waving and quite rightly wave franticly at
> greater speeds. This will also serve as a visual warning to other
> motorists that you are in a flap when changing lanes.
Yeah but when you wind your window down and rest your elbow on it in
the pose that non-landy owners think is macho but in reality is you
trying to get some elbow room, the gloves will slap you about all
journey which could get really annoying.

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EMB - 23 Nov 2007 20:16 GMT
> I don't think you're taking this seriously... If the windows are misted too
> then other landrover owners won't see you waving. The gloves will carry on
> waving and quite rightly wave franticly at greater speeds. This will also
> serve as a visual warning to other motorists that you are in a flap when
> changing lanes.
I assume that *is* your professional advice - and that it can be quoted
in court if any trouble arises out of using oven gloves. ;-)
Ian Rawlings - 23 Nov 2007 20:30 GMT
> I assume that *is* your professional advice - and that it can be quoted
> in court if any trouble arises out of using oven gloves. ;-)
You could probably quote it in court in the same manner that you're
likely to be able to quote his soon to be forthcoming advice on how to
engage in sexual intercourse with yourself ;-)

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Lee_D - 23 Nov 2007 20:49 GMT
>> I assume that *is* your professional advice - and that it can be quoted
>> in court if any trouble arises out of using oven gloves. ;-)
>
> You could probably quote it in court in the same manner that you're
> likely to be able to quote his soon to be forthcoming advice on how to
> engage in sexual intercourse with yourself ;-)
With oven gloves on?
..... ah!
got it! ;-)
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Lee_D - 23 Nov 2007 20:48 GMT
>> I don't think you're taking this seriously... If the windows are misted
>> too then other landrover owners won't see you waving. The gloves will
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I assume that *is* your professional advice - and that it can be quoted in
> court if any trouble arises out of using oven gloves. ;-)
For what attention the court paid to my evidence the last time I spoke
regards a traffic offence I may as well advise that only lane three can be
used on a space hopper!
:-)
Lee D
Derek - 23 Nov 2007 20:59 GMT
>> I don't think you're taking this seriously... If the windows are misted
>> too then other landrover owners won't see you waving. The gloves will
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I assume that *is* your professional advice - and that it can be quoted in
> court if any trouble arises out of using oven gloves. ;-)
not to be taken to seriously theres no way that bit of material between the
gloves would let you see out of the windscreen unless your name is Clarkson
in which case who cares anyway
http://www.handymitts.co.uk/gifs/products/oven_gloves/OG62471_lge.jpg mind
you it would keep the frost off the screen....................
Derek
Mark Solesbury - 23 Nov 2007 07:32 GMT
> for the defender.
>
> like bloody hens teeth. who was it who had 'em? only place I can find
> advertising 'em is in holland, and that's probably out of date.
just found this on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Landrover-Land-Rover-90-110-Defender-Heated-Mirror-Kit_W0Q
QitemZ290184697519

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Austin Shackles - 24 Nov 2007 08:16 GMT
On or around Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:32:19 +0000, Mark Solesbury
<marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> enlightened us
thusly:
>> for the defender.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Landrover-Land-Rover-90-110-Defender-Heated-Mirror-Kit_W0Q
QitemZ290184697519
yeah, I found that one. was going to wait a bit and find out how much the
elements actually cost - I recall those kits being a lot cheaper than that a
couple of years ago :-(

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Lee_D - 24 Nov 2007 13:38 GMT
Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> uttered
summat worrerz funny about:
> On or around Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:32:19 +0000, Mark Solesbury
> <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> much the elements actually cost - I recall those kits being a lot
> cheaper than that a couple of years ago :-(
What is it you want it to do? Clear frost or stop misting?
I find a good thick dollop of fairy liquid stops any misting if thats the
issue. Otherwise a ice scraper sorts the rest. I've god cars with heated
mirrors but never (knwoingly) used them.
Lee D
Austin Shackles - 24 Nov 2007 16:09 GMT
>Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS@ddol-las.net> uttered
>summat worrerz funny about:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>issue. Otherwise a ice scraper sorts the rest. I've god cars with heated
>mirrors but never (knwoingly) used them.
most of them come on along of the rear screen demister or similar. Discos
certainly do.
Both. The disco mirrors, for the most part, clear and then stay clear, with
the heating on. The ones on the LDV don't, 'cos of no heating, and even if
defrosted with a scraper have a habit of freezing up again in the wrong
conditions.

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SpamTrapSeeSig - 23 Nov 2007 07:51 GMT
>for the defender.
>
>like bloody hens teeth. who was it who had 'em? only place I can find
>advertising 'em is in holland, and that's probably out of date.
For many years now we've used our own brand: a 4 pint milk container of
hand-warm water over the windscreen and mirrors (and sometimes door
windows too). Once you get going they stay clear (even the Landy's
mirrors). I'll admit this only works in the morning from home, but it's
loads better than scraping ice, etc.
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