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Howie - 26 Nov 2007 06:43 GMT

Hi all.

I have DII V8. Since putting oversize tyres on it, I have noticed
that the OS front tyro 'just' touches the front, plastic mudguard
thingy, - the one at the back of the bumper. Only happens on full
LH lock.
But the NS tyre doesn't. It seems to have almost an extra inch of
movement at the front of the wheel.

Is this just a strange kind of LR configuration, or has something
serious happened? The car is spotless and never been involved in
a prang. It drives absolutely fine too.

TIA.
H.

PS: Anyone fancy making me a SS version of that silly plastic
forward mudguard? It's just worn through now, and I've got a
'nole' in it.

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Austin Shackles - 26 Nov 2007 07:30 GMT

>Hi all.
>
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>serious happened? The car is spotless and never been involved in
>a prang. It drives absolutely fine too.

probably the lock stops are in different places. You can adjust 'em.

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johnty - 26 Nov 2007 13:27 GMT

>>Hi all.
>>
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>
> probably the lock stops are in different places. You can adjust 'em.

And you can turn the brackets round that hold the arch to the bumper and get
'just enough' clearance for the oversized tyres

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Howie - 26 Nov 2007 17:46 GMT

|> probably the lock stops are in different places. You can adjust 'em.
|
|And you can turn the brackets round that hold the arch to the bumper and get
|'just enough' clearance for the oversized tyres

Thanks to both of you. And I'll do some googling to find out
about lock-stop adjustment.
Much appreciated.

H.

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Rich B - 26 Nov 2007 18:59 GMT

Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Howie typed:

>>> probably the lock stops are in different places. You can adjust
>>> 'em.
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> about lock-stop adjustment.
> Much appreciated.

ISTR that the lock-stops on the D2 are non-adjustable, and that the
restriction is within the swivel itself. My first D2 had terrible steering
lock, and I tried to improve it by winding them back (as you do) but was
told the above by a dealer. Strangely, my last D2 (same year, but an auto)
was much better.

Having removed the bumper and all the associated gubbins to do a repair, I
can confirm that the panel alignment is extremely approximate, and it
doesn't surprise me that there is an inch difference between the two sides.
They are all like that, Sir.

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Austin Shackles - 27 Nov 2007 14:32 GMT

>Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Howie typed:
>>>>
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>told the above by a dealer. Strangely, my last D2 (same year, but an auto)
>was much better.

haven't looked at one, I admit.

I know on the defender axle I modified the stops to get more lock when I
fitted the 8-spokes

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Rich B - 27 Nov 2007 19:02 GMT

Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Austin Shackles typed:

>> Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Howie typed:
>>>>>
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> I know on the defender axle I modified the stops to get more lock
> when I fitted the 8-spokes

D2 axles are totally different from the Series/Defender/RRC/D1 items. The
swivels are not so enclosed and are a different construction (note total
lack of detail in description cos I've forgotten). They're much stronger
than the older items, and they're the ones to have for racing, apparently.
But the old rules (wind back the lock-stops for greater turning circle) just
don't apply.

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Dave Liquorice - 27 Nov 2007 21:24 GMT

> D2 axles are totally different from the Series/Defender/RRC/D1 items.
> The swivels are not so enclosed and are a different construction (note
> total lack of detail in description cos I've forgotten).

No big gleaming silver balls on the axle ends under the front of my DII. I
think the arrangement is more akin to a king pin than a ball based swivel.

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Rich B - 28 Nov 2007 19:10 GMT

Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Dave Liquorice typed:

>> D2 axles are totally different from the Series/Defender/RRC/D1 items.
>> The swivels are not so enclosed and are a different construction
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> DII. I think the arrangement is more akin to a king pin than a ball
> based swivel.

That's the badger. I couldn't remember what you called it.

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Dave Liquorice - 28 Nov 2007 21:24 GMT

>> No big gleaming silver balls on the axle ends under the front of my
>> DII. I think the arrangement is more akin to a king pin than a ball
>> based swivel.
>
> That's the badger. I couldn't remember what you called it.

I've now looked at RAVE, the end of the axle is Y shaped with the prongs
vertically above each other. A similar Y shaped yoke, which carries the
hub, is fitted via two ball joints to the underside of each axle prong.
The two ball joints being inline but canted like a king pin.

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Steve - 26 Nov 2007 22:03 GMT

> Thanks to both of you. And I'll do some googling to find out
> about lock-stop adjustment.
> Much appreciated.

It could almost make for a new film title: Lock-stop-and two smoking
mudguards.

Coat got......
Steve

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Uncle Geoff - 27 Nov 2007 16:47 GMT

Hi

You don't say if they are original wheels. I notice that third party wheels
like eight spokes can be bought with differing offsets.
Of course, it could just be the usual poor quality build...

Regards

> > Thanks to both of you. And I'll do some googling to find out
> > about lock-stop adjustment.
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> Coat got......
> Steve

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Howie - 29 Nov 2007 09:38 GMT

|Hi
|
|You don't say if they are original wheels. I notice that third party wheels
|like eight spokes can be bought with differing offsets.
|Of course, it could just be the usual poor quality build...

'ello again. They are original. It's the D2 SE. Five-spoke solid
ally wheels.

|> > Thanks to both of you. And I'll do some googling to find out
|> > about lock-stop adjustment.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
|> Coat got......
|> Steve

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