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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / January 2008Land Rover going Indian ?
Just heard that the Indian company Tata is talking about buying Jaguar and Land Rover from Ford ! See New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/04/business/worldbusiness/03cnd-tata.html?hp Doesn't seem right to me ... not at all. Steve > Just heard that the Indian company Tata is talking about buying Jaguar > and Land Rover from Ford ! Pay attention at the back. This has been discussed here very very recently. Steve > > Just heard that the Indian company Tata is talking about buying Jaguar > > and Land Rover from Ford ! > > Pay attention at the back. This has been discussed here very very recently. > > Steve Has it ? All I could see was pages of garbage by some sort of spammer. So I suppose all the Ta-Ta and old Tat jokes have already been done !!! Steve > So I suppose all the Ta-Ta and old Tat jokes have already been > done !!! Hmm, not sure ! Shall we start ? tatered ? Steve > Has it ? All I could see was pages of garbage by some sort of spammer. Get yourself a decent news server and you won't see the spam(*). Google groups is a heap of crock, even the archive is much harder to use than it was. (*) Well you might see one or three a week...  SignatureCheers new5pam@howhill.com Dave. pam is missing e-mail On Thursday, in article <2c00ec60-3a8d-4aff-9a6b-75c2dcf27093@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> > Just heard that the Indian company Tata is talking about buying Jaguar > and Land Rover from Ford ! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Doesn't seem right to me ... not at all. It's a rumour that has been going round for a long time. And the NYT has, over the last few years, worked hard to get a reputation for poor-quality reporting. So I don't see much significance in this latest report, barely even a confirmation that Tata are still interested, if they ever were. SignatureDavid G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger. On the horizon, a carrier task force of the Salvation Navy was turning into the wind, preparing to launch Zeppelins. > It's a rumour that has been going round for a long time. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So I don't see much significance in this latest report, barely even a > confirmation that Tata are still interested, if they ever were. Really? I've seen it widely reported that Tata are the preferred bidder, and I'm sure I noticed yesterday that the Telegraph reported Ford were now committing to further talks with Tata re. buying Jag / LR. Matt >> It's a rumour that has been going round for a long time. >> And the NYT has, over the last few years, worked hard to get a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Matt In today's Guardian talks with TATA are continuing ,but no mention of the other two bidders, the inference being that TATA are indeed the preferred bidder. So it's ta ta from me and ta ta from him, and ta ta Solihull -- Ta ta hugh Reply to address is valid at the time of posting > In message <G4pfj.30$pb5.50@nntpserver.swip.net>, Matt M > <matthew.maddock@nospamplease.mmaddock.com> writes [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > So it's ta ta from me and ta ta from him, and ta ta Solihull The Beeb says so too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7169681.stm Nicest pun I found was "Jaguar set for Indian takeout" Geo > On Thursday, in article > <2c00ec60-3a8d-4aff-9a6b-75c2dcf27093@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > So I don't see much significance in this latest report, barely even a > confirmation that Tata are still interested, if they ever were. There'll be no more complaints about the help desk being in Delhi :-) SignatureRegards Steve G Yours maybe, but not mine which is the best of British (Leyland) which explains a lot I suppose. Actually Lambretta (once a part of the BL empire believe it or not) went Indian, Royal Enfield went Indian, Standard Vanguard went Indian. If the Indians started building proper series landies again I wouldn't mind. Goodness gracious me. SignatureLarry Series 3 Rust and Holes > Just heard that the Indian company Tata is talking about buying Jaguar > and Land Rover from Ford ! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Steve Hi, i am the proud owner of Disco II, which i bought trusting to the standards a (real) british manufactorer will offer and execute to his customers ! After changings of the brand ( i.e. BMW, ... ) i am still a owner of a LandRover !!!! After 2 days testdriving a Disco III i never would buy one of this "High Tech" Cars ! Why ? : Probs with AWD, Computer, ... . I am driving a LandRover because the thing WORKS ! And i want ( need ) a car that works ! In my opinion, a LR III is a merchandising machine, but far away from a working vehicle ! So, hopefully, the "indian deal" will put things better ! Kind regards and a happy new year Reinhard > Actually Lambretta (once a part of the BL empire believe it or not) > went Indian, Royal Enfield went Indian, Standard Vanguard went Indian. > If the Indians started building proper series landies again I wouldn't > mind. > > Goodness gracious me. > Yours maybe, but not mine which is the best of British (Leyland) which > explains a lot I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Goodness gracious me. Royal Enfield set-up their own factory in India back in the late 60's, which remained in their ownership until RE were bought by Norton in the early 70's. The Indian factory used to build bikes from complete knocked-down kits sent out from the UK ~ I have one of the last batch of 750cc Interceptors that Norton "intercepted" at Southampton docks the day they bought RE. It's still in CKD state in the same packing case it was when I paid £50 for it in 1973 (or was it 74?) Once the Indian factory ceased to get support from Norton they just started building their own version of the 350cc Bullet, which has been available in the UK for several years. Riding one is like stepping back through time :-) SignatureRegards Steve G >> Yours maybe, but not mine which is the best of British (Leyland) which >> explains a lot I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > available in the UK for several years. Riding one is like stepping back > through time :-) They do a whole range of bikes, from the "classics" which use the same 350 and 500 engines as they did in the 50s, to "moderns" which have newer engines (and electric starts), and even a diesel (not available in the UK but I can buy one here in Switzerland*) that does ridiculous mpg. Stuart *Oh, I've moved from France, if anyone is remotely interested. >>> Yours maybe, but not mine which is the best of British (Leyland) which >>> explains a lot I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >*Oh, I've moved from France, if anyone is remotely interested. Yeah, but the diesel enfield is totally horrible. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>>>Yours maybe, but not mine which is the best of British (Leyland) which >>>>explains a lot I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Yeah, but the diesel enfield is totally horrible. Probably, but I just wanted to point out that there is more to Enfield than the "original" Bullet. Stuart > They do a whole range of bikes, from the "classics" which use the same > 350 and 500 engines as they did in the 50s, to "moderns" which have [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > *Oh, I've moved from France, if anyone is remotely interested. I appreciate they now do a range of newer bikes too, Stuart, some of which are quite good .. but that diesel is awful. So, you've moved from France .. where to? SignatureRegards Steve G >> They do a whole range of bikes, from the "classics" which use the same >> 350 and 500 engines as they did in the 50s, to "moderns" which have [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > So, you've moved from France .. where to? I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier statement. Actually, just down from Montreux (On the Lake Geneva Shoreline), where I am now the Head of IT at a rather nice International Boarding School. It's great here - water, snow, mountains, just like Wales but with money. Ideal for Land-Rovers. Which makes it a real pisser that my 110 is terminal, and I can't do anything with it until I get an expert witness for the court case against Willetts, to prove that it isn't a County (as advertised), and that I could reasonably think that it was fitted with a 2.5 diesel (as I communicated with the defendants, your Honour) rather than the 2.25 that it has (and which now has knackered piston rings, AFAICT). Stuart "Stuart Gray" wrote.................. > Which makes it a real pisser that my 110 is terminal, and I can't do > anything with it until I get an expert witness for the court case [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Stuart Just curious, what makes you think the piston rings are knackered? And IMHO I think you would be better off with a 2.25 rather than a NA 2.5 so long as it was 5 bearing. Martin > "Stuart Gray" wrote.................. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Martin It isn't any of the top end gaskets, they have been changed. There is no evidence of a crack in the block. It's burning oil like there is no tomorrow, there is no power at all, and there is a clanging noise. The valves are fine, as is the timing. I haven't had the sump off, but I can't think of any other way that oil could be getting into the cylinders, that would also explain the disastrous loss of power. And I paid for a 2.5, so I want one! AIUI there is a little bit better top end speed on the 2.5 (it's got to be better than 40 mph, at any rate). Stuart "Stuart Gray" wrote............. > It isn't any of the top end gaskets, they have been changed. There is > no evidence of a crack in the block. It's burning oil like there is no > tomorrow, there is no power at all, and there is a clanging noise. The > valves are fine, as is the timing. I haven't had the sump off, but I > can't think of any other way that oil could be getting into the > cylinders, that would also explain the disastrous loss of power. You didn't say if the gaskets were replaced whilst investigating these problems or if it is actually burning oil or just smoking heavily or if the injection pump timing is fine along with the valve timing or if there was any appreciable wear or marks in the bores etc. Does it make any difference if you have slacken the injector pipes in turn to maybe ascertain which cylinder the noise is coming from? I just can't see why there should be oil in all the cylinders. Is the 'clanging' noise due to a broken piston, trying to compress the oil in the bores or just an injector stuck open. Is there actually diesel in the tank? Restricted air inlet? Dodgy breather system? Tappets not set right? Too many unknowns here to venture an opinion. > And I paid for a 2.5, so I want one! I'm not surprised. AIUI there is a little bit better > top end speed on the 2.5 (it's got to be better than 40 mph, at any rate). > > Stuart It would be alright with a 200 Tdi shoved in it. Martin > "Stuart Gray" wrote............. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > actually diesel in the tank? Restricted air inlet? Dodgy breather system? > Tappets not set right? Too many unknowns here to venture an opinion. Yes, all gaskets replaced (including valve stem), yes diesel in tank (I drove the f.cker around for a bit), yes tappets set, no I haven't slackened off the pipes, it's producing loads of blue smoke, injectors are new and adjusted. I'm just fed up with the whole damn thing, and it will be for sale once I've sorted the court case. > > And I paid for a 2.5, so I want one! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Martin Yes, if I could get one at the right price - and available in France. I just want shot of the whole bloody vehicle. Which is a shame, since the chassis and bodywork are in fantastic condition. Stuart "srtgray" wrote............ > Yes, if I could get one at the right price - and available in France. > I just want shot of the whole bloody vehicle. Which is a shame, since > the chassis and bodywork are in fantastic condition. > > Stuart My commiserations, it is a shame, I hope your New Year improves. Martin > Yours maybe, but not mine which is the best of British (Leyland) which > explains a lot I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > Steve They also make a large number of clones of the old 1930s Lister single cylinder diesel (known generically as the Listeroids). Reading about them is scary - apparently they are made all over the show, and one account says all engines must always be stripped down to remove casting sand etc - if it has been run by the factory it is probably ruined. I was at least impressed that they could make the injectors (due to the fine machining tolerances), but it seems they are by Bosch. Steve > > Yours maybe, but not mine which is the best of British (Leyland) which > > explains a lot I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Steve Regards the listeroids, couldn't resist adding this link when I found it, the name of the engine make is brilliant. Why isn't this company taking over Land Rover !!! http://utterpower.com/indian_fuking_6_1.htm Steve >> > Yours maybe, but not mine which is the best of British (Leyland) which >> > explains a lot I suppose. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Steve Very interesting piece that Steve thanks for sharing. Derek Worlds cheapest car http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7180396.stm SignatureLarry Series 3 Rust and Holes > Just heard that the Indian company Tata is talking about buying Jaguar > and Land Rover from Ford ! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Steve > Worlds cheapest car > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7180396.stm Looks good, an designed well for its (urban?) target market. I wonder if you can get a couple of goats and a crate of chickens in the back? And how tough it is, it needs 2CV type toughness. Nancy computer control for every function either, though I guess it will have to have some form of computerised engine management to get the emmisions low enough. SignatureCheers new5pam@howhill.com Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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