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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / January 2008Another Person Registering a 4x4 at your Address
Hi Boys & Girls on the 4/01/2008 a Man was at my door asking me When are you going to Move your 4x4 ,I said the its on drive, you have left it in a pub car park said the Man Somebody had Registered a 4x4 at my address not known to me My question being can you check what cars a registered at a address ? All the Best Skinty "Life's Short so Live It" > Hi Boys & Girls > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > "Life's Short so Live It" Report it to the police - either someone has cloned your number plate or someone has falsely registered a car as being owned by someone resident at your address. > on the 4/01/2008 a Man was at my door asking me > When are you going to Move your 4x4 ,I said the its on drive, you have left > it in a pub car park said the Man > > Somebody had Registered a 4x4 at my address not known to me My question > being can you check what cars a registered at a address ? Yes, you just have to have (not sure exactly how they put it) a 'good' reason and the DVLA will give out the details of the owner if you apply for them. Matt > Yes, you just have to have (not sure exactly how they put it) a 'good' > reason and the DVLA will give out the details of the owner if you apply > for them. I don't think he's trying to find out where a car is registered, I think he wants to find out if there are any other cars registered at his address.  SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! > I don't think he's trying to find out where a car is registered, I > think he wants to find out if there are any other cars registered at > his address. Yep! My fault, you're right. Really should learn to read properly! Mind you, having a wriggling 2yr old on your lap does rather sap the concentration! Don't know any way of doing what the OP asked, but surely if a vehicle has been re-registered to his address, then he should have got the V5 through the post? I've heard of this kind of thing (registering to a random address) going on quite a lot recently. The DVLA really should do some sort of address checking - over here you can't re-register a car without giving blood - well, almost! but you do need at least 18 months CT (MOT), a certificate de non-gage (UK HPI equiv.), Passport/Photo ID and a recent utility bill, not to mention the official paperwork that the previous owner has to fill out on sale, oh and your own set of paperwork too! Matt Hi Matt Yes You are right it goes on a lot ,common as id fraud I didn't say to 4x4 was in my name only registered to my Address might take a trip down to local bill shop & see what they say as the man at the door might try to charge me for 14 days Parking or CJ my address for not paying Regards Skinty "Life's a 1 way Ticket " >> I don't think he's trying to find out where a car is registered, I >> think he wants to find out if there are any other cars registered at [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Matt >Hi Matt > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Skinty Is it not possible there's simply been a cock-up at DVLA, and someone there has given out your details by mistake? It seems more likely... Regards, Simonm (long-time fan of Occam). Signaturesimonm|at|muircom|dot|demon|.|c|oh|dot|u|kay SIMON MUIR, BRISTOL UK EUROPEANS AGAINST THE EU http://www.eurofaq.freeuk.com/ GT250A'76 R80/RT'86 110CSW TDi'88 www.kc3ltd.co.uk/profile/eurofollie/ > In article <13o7jcq9jv5ho2b@corp.supernews.com>, skinty <h@ic24.net> writes > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Is it not possible there's simply been a cock-up at DVLA, and someone > there has given out your details by mistake? It seems more likely... On a CD, perhaps! > Regards, > > Simonm (long-time fan of Occam). On Tuesday, in article <13o7jcq9jv5ho2b@corp.supernews.com> > Hi Matt > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > what they say as the man at the door might try to charge > me for 14 days Parking or CJ my address for not paying A few years ago I got a demand over a vehicle in a supermarket carpark. It was a combine harvester I'd sold two years before. I reported the apparent fraudulent use of a registration mark to the Police. Apparently, the DVLA was telling the police different information to what they told the car-parking company. > Hi Boys & Girls > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Somebody had Registered a 4x4 at my address not known to me My question > being can you check what cars a registered at a address ? He apparently did, or checked what address the car was registered at. Hang on a minute. A random bloke has seen a 4x4 parked outside the pub. The random bloke turned up at your house after seeing the car. How the hell did the random bloke get details of where the car is registered to in the first place???? |Hang on a minute. | |A random bloke has seen a 4x4 parked outside the pub. Untrue. |The random bloke turned up at your house after seeing the car. Untrue |How the hell did the random bloke get details of where the car is registered |to in the first place???? He didn't. There is NO SUCH THING as a "random bloke". <ducks> >Hang on a minute. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >How the hell did the random bloke get details of where the car is registered >to in the first place???? he owns the pub and is trying to trace the owner of the vehicle to get it removed from his car park, I should think. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! Indeed that is the likely case, but how did he find out the address to which the car is registered?? If it wasn't Skinty's car, as his was on the drive way at the time, the person must have assumed that it was skinty's car in which case there is no other 4x4 registered at the address, its just the landlord mistake. If this is anither car that happens to have been registered at the OP address, how would landlord have gotten details of where the car is registered.....the DVLA are not allow to give that information out under Data Protection Rules. > If this is anither car that happens to have been registered at the OP > address, how would landlord have gotten details of where the car is > registered.....the DVLA are not allow to give that information out under > Data Protection Rules. You can apply for such information and if you have a good enough reason to know it - in their opinion - you'll get it. Signature*Beware - animal lover - brakes for pussy* Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. On Wednesday, in article <4f5e6bcdbddave@davenoise.co.uk> > > If this is anither car that happens to have been registered at the OP > > address, how would landlord have gotten details of where the car is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You can apply for such information and if you have a good enough reason to > know it - in their opinion - you'll get it. There's supposed to be a code of practise too, requiring car parking operators to be able to provide certain evidence. Either DVLA have made a mistake--what a surprise--or somebody has done something illegal. Since a new/revised registration should lead to the OP getting documents from DVLA, there's likely to be some DVLA mistake. Now, I've known DVLA make some biggies--as I said, a combine harvester in a London supermarket carpark, and that one was pretty obvious--but some of the car park operators are a bit dodgy with the format of their enforcement notices. They try to make them look far more official than they are, closely resembling the criminal notices issued by local authorities for on-street parking offences, when these things are civil trespass. On the other hand, if you're dealing with the guy from the local pub, there's things you can do. Like checking nobody has made a mistake with number plates and gotten a couple of digits swapped. If it's local, you can get a photograph of the vehicle. If your 4x4 does have a similar number plate (and I once had a couple of tractors which must have been registered on the same day, by different dealers) you've already got an explanation. And if it's identical plates, that's definitely time to call in the Police. Remember, check the plates and the tax-disk. The Police are much more aware than DVLA staff of just how unreliable the data is. They know the tricks the bad guys pull. SignatureDavid G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger. On the horizon, a carrier task force of the Salvation Navy was turning into the wind, preparing to launch Zeppelins. >On Wednesday, in article <4f5e6bcdbddave@davenoise.co.uk> > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >The Police are much more aware than DVLA staff of just how unreliable >the data is. They know the tricks the bad guys pull. I was a bit disconcerted once to be told by my local (independent) LR dealer that when they had looked up my vehicle on the database tit had come up with another vehicle with the same reg. A bit of checking found it had been a simple typo by the original salesperson. What really upset me was the other vehicle was a bloody Freelander. Signaturehugh Reply to address is valid at the time of posting >On Wednesday, in article <4f5e6bcdbddave@davenoise.co.uk> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >There's supposed to be a code of practise too, requiring car parking >operators to be able to provide certain evidence. if the bloke is the owner of the pub and the motor's been there a fortnight, he can probably either get the info himself or via the dibbles. as to how the thing's registered at his address without being known about, I don't know. Perhaps the perp is intercepting our hero's mail? SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! Dave Plowman (News) typed: >> If this is anither car that happens to have been registered at the OP >> address, how would landlord have gotten details of where the car is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You can apply for such information and if you have a good enough > reason to know it - in their opinion - you'll get it. They're not all that fussy, either. They seem to give details out willy-nilly to any mouth-breathing wheel-clamper who asks for them. I used to believe that the DVLA would only give out info to authorities such as the police, for security reasons, but it just ain't true. SignatureRich B Take out the obvious to email me. A life? Cool - where can I download one of those? Thanx All I totally Agree with you But I Never trust Pub Landlords Lots of them are ex bill & would grass you up for a Pint the 4x4 has been taken a way & I Hope Its the end of the story strange but he never liked me any way & I don't drink in his pub All the Best Skinty "The Early Bird Catches the Worm" > Dave Plowman (News) typed: >>> If this is anither car that happens to have been registered at the OP [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I used to believe that the DVLA would only give out info to authorities > such as the police, for security reasons, but it just ain't true. >Indeed that is the likely case, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >registered.....the DVLA are not allow to give that information out under >Data Protection Rules. Oh yes they are. Government and government agencies simply override DP Act as and when it suites them. It is however worth bearing in mind the DP Act is not so much about privacy and confidentiality. It's more about registering the purpose for which personal data is to be used. It's then a breach of the Act to use it for any other purpose. With a commercial organisation if you don't like it you can go somewhere else but with government and their agencies you don't have any choice and you can't withhold your details. Signaturehugh Reply to address is valid at the time of posting > It is however worth bearing in mind the DP Act is not so much about > privacy and confidentiality. It's more about registering the purpose > for which personal data is to be used. It's then a breach of the Act > to use it for any other purpose. There are clauses that require reasonable precautions to keep the data secure and this does have an impact on companies, some of them specifically ask me if certain issues I find breach the act. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! >> It is however worth bearing in mind the DP Act is not so much about >> privacy and confidentiality. It's more about registering the purpose [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >secure and this does have an impact on companies, some of them >specifically ask me if certain issues I find breach the act. Yes I agree. But when the row blew up over the lost CDs the minister stood up in the house and glibly commented that they were OK under the DP act because they had "reasonable" procedures in place. (I sometimes watch proceedings on TV - how sad is that?) Also the issue of the lost CDs show how government departments pass our personal data around and even send it abroad, where it gets lost. How many people knew that? But you don't have a choice - you have to supply your details under those conditions. The DP Act has never been strong on security but it is being undermined by the government. Signaturehugh Reply to address is valid at the time of posting hugh typed: >>> It is however worth bearing in mind the DP Act is not so much about >>> privacy and confidentiality. It's more about registering the purpose [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > The DP Act has never been strong on security but it is being > undermined by the government. The DPA is pretty robust, as it covers a large range of requirements regarding how data is gathered and handled, and the penalties are severe (£5k for an individual and unlimited fines for a company IIRC). Crucially, the DPA does not apply to the Govt and its agencies. Working in the private sector, I take the DPA very seriously. Clearly, the ethos in Govt agencies is rather different. SignatureRich B Take out the obvious to email me. A life? Cool - where can I download one of those? |
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