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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / January 2008

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Why everyone should keep an old LR in the garden!...

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Matt M - 10 Jan 2008 21:57 GMT
...put the van round the back of the house the other day cos it is
closer to the workshop when I'm loading/unloading - well, since then it
has done nothing but bloody chuck it down (can you see where this is
going?!)  Need the van out for a 6am start tomorrow so thought I'd do it
now, been sunny all day so thought it would be OK - couple of van
lengths into the move you can guess what happens - absolutely sunk -
right down to the rims, not going anywhere no matter what I do - not
helped by the fact that it is FWD and I'm having to reverse it out.

So I hooked up the car with a strop and tried to pull it out - wouldn't
even move an inch - called my wife out to help (who doesn't drive
manuals, "can't", and hasn't done so in 10+ years) but after a bit of
instruction I manage to get her to just ride the clutch at the point
before the wheels of the van start to spin, hoping it will help - still
going nowhere - car tyres starting to dig in - at which point I remember
the waffle boards I bought from Nige a while back (thanks Nige!) but all
that did was stall the car as it was just too much for it, and I wasn't
too keen on ripping my tyres to pieces on the boards by giving it too
much boot!

Right, time to break out the SIII I thought, but that is hiding around
the back of the house too - the van is far enough out of the way to get
it out, but the motorhome is parked right across the front of the SIII -
tho somehow I manage to move the motorhome just enough without getting
it stuck to free the SIII (front end is now in the trees and back end is
in the hedge!) - jump in the SIII - the battery is dead! (because of
Christmas I haven't run her up in a while) Motorhome is close by, so
with the help of two sets of jump leads joined together I get a jump
start on the SIII, pull the SIII out only to realise the trailer is now
in the way, which is full of bags of rubble that I've left in there
waiting to go to the tip - struggle to drag it out of the way, and get
the SIII in position - set her up on 4WD, back wheels onto the waffle
boards and give it a go - just manages to get the van moving, so shout
the wife out again (who has gone inside because it is "too bloody cold")
and together over the course of 20mins we finally get the van unstuck.

I've now got a 25m, rim deep set of parallel marks through the garden -
ground was so soft that I literally had to drag it out with the SIII
until we got to the firmer ground.

Without the SIII I'd have been totally screwed - absolutely no way was
the van going anywhere.  Gave her a good run out down the road as a
treat, and then drove it through the garden where the van had just been
stuck and parked back in her spot round the back - didn't even break
into a sweat. Bloody marvelous!  Best 800 euros spent yet!!

Matt
Paul - xxx - 11 Jan 2008 10:41 GMT
Matt M wibbled

> ...put the van round the back of the house the other day cos it is
> closer to the workshop when I'm loading/unloading - well, since then
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> been stuck and parked back in her spot round the back - didn't even
> break into a sweat. Bloody marvelous!  Best 800 euros spent yet!!

Heheheh.  

Best one I had was when an eleven ton truck with a Hi-Ab deliveres a
container to school (I'm caretaker) ... got stuck on the playing field.
Another truck came but couldn't reach it with their tackle as it wanted
to stay on the playground so it didn't also get stuck.  Brought the
Disco round, 4wd, lowbox, first gear, diff-locks on, pulled the eleven
tonner far enough through the gloop for the ropes to reach ... jobs a
good 'un.

;)  

Made headmaster fume, tore great chunks out of the field, which was an
even better result as he's a twat.  ;)

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Matt M - 11 Jan 2008 12:13 GMT
> Best one I had was when an eleven ton truck with a Hi-Ab deliveres a
> container to school (I'm caretaker) ... got stuck on the playing field.
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> Made headmaster fume, tore great chunks out of the field, which was an
> even better result as he's a twat.  ;)

Nice....now, how did you fix it up?!

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Gotta do something about that lot!

Matt
Paul - xxx - 11 Jan 2008 13:41 GMT
Matt M wibbled

> > Best one I had was when an eleven ton truck with a Hi-Ab deliveres a
> > container to school (I'm caretaker) ... got stuck on the playing
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Gotta do something about that lot!

Ooh ... called the councils "Estates management team" and said "fix
that" ... ;)

Seriously.

All they did, however, was dig the tracks out so the edges were
straight, chucked in some topsoil then turfed over, then seeded a week
later.  Turfing/seeding done with with plenty water ... ;)

You couldn't tell there had been a problem within a couple of months.

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Paul - xxx - 11 Jan 2008 13:55 GMT
Paul - xxx wibbled

> Matt M wibbled
>
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>
> You couldn't tell there had been a problem within a couple of months.

Just spoke with and sent a mate the pics, he's a groundskeeper at the
local golf club.  He reckons to do what I said, but  only for ruts
deeper than a few or maybe only a couple of inch.  For the rest he'd
mix topsoil with about 30% sand and fill in anything that's smaller
than a rut, so most of the skid marks, but also scarify the top layer
to spread most of the squidged out soil, then use a fork or soil
aerator around the area.  He'd seed it asap, using plenty water, but
not to let it get waterlogged.

Hope it helps.  ;)

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Matt M - 11 Jan 2008 17:10 GMT
> Just spoke with and sent a mate the pics, he's a groundskeeper at the
> local golf club.  He reckons to do what I said, but  only for ruts
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>
> Hope it helps.  ;)

Cheers for that - worse places are 6in deep.  Rest is 50/50 4in deep or
just compressed down about 1in when we got some momentum up.  Ruts are
full of water now as it has been chucking it down all afternoon ;-(

Will wait for it to dry out a bit and then flatten the raised bits with
a roller and fill in the remainder & seed as you suggested.

I've earmarked a space around the front to turn into a 'drive' so I
don't have this problem, but have to pull down the [very] old garage,
demolish a stone out building that the chucks are currently living in,
fence off & build them a new home, and move a load of trees - it has
just been too horrid this year to start doing it, but I guess I'll have
to bite the bullet sooner or later.  Thinking about hiring a mini-digger
to help - that should make it a bit more fun!!

Matt
Paul - xxx - 12 Jan 2008 19:34 GMT
> > Just spoke with and sent a mate the pics, he's a groundskeeper at
> > the local golf club.  He reckons to do what I said, but  only for
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> Will wait for it to dry out a bit and then flatten the raised bits
> with a roller and fill in the remainder & seed as you suggested.

That was the bit I missed ... He did also say it would be worth running
a roller over it, when it was roughly level again, then
raking/scarifying again after a couple of days/week and then rollering
again.

My bad.  ;)

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Nige - 12 Jan 2008 19:37 GMT
>>> Just spoke with and sent a mate the pics, he's a groundskeeper at
>>> the local golf club.  He reckons to do what I said, but  only for
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> My bad.  ;)

I had a 20 ton cement mixer stuck on my lawn last year, made a right f.cking 
mess. Did a bit of grafting & what have you & it was fine this year.

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Paul - xxx - 12 Jan 2008 20:23 GMT
> > > > Just spoke with and sent a mate the pics, he's a groundskeeper
> > > > at the local golf club.  He reckons to do what I said, but
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> f.cking mess. Did a bit of grafting & what have you & it was fine
> this year.

Yup. time helps.

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Ian Rawlings - 11 Jan 2008 18:04 GMT
> Without the SIII I'd have been totally screwed - absolutely no way was
> the van going anywhere.

Well, today I went out for a tootle in the Defender to keep it all
oily inside, and it was raining hard.  I came back and shuffled about
the house for a few hours and then went to go back out in it again to
pick up a piece of computer gadgetry.  I remembered that it was
running on empty so decided to take the Audi A4, halfway to collecting
the keys I changed my mind as I thought I might as well fill the
Defender tank anyway.

On leaving the fuel station forecourt it started snowing so hard I had
the wipers on top speed, and my route took me through lots of tiny
lanes and occasional A roads, many of which were badly flooded.  On
one I had the wipers on normal speed, hit the water and turned a
corner, wasn't able to see the road surface due to water on the
windscreen, then whacked the wipers on high and saw that the whole
road for the next 100 metres or so was submerged in about a foot and a
half of water.

Got to the other side without event and told a few hesitant cars not
to bother, and led some worried old lady to where she was trying to
get to.  She said she wished she had a nice big landrover, certainly
came in useful today!  While the pinz can handle the wet, it's much
harder to see out of in such conditions so glad I didn't choose that,
and the Audi would have had to turn back on a few occasions.

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Matt M - 11 Jan 2008 19:25 GMT
> On leaving the fuel station forecourt it started snowing so hard I had
> the wipers on top speed, and my route took me through lots of tiny
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> road for the next 100 metres or so was submerged in about a foot and a
> half of water.

Great fun!

You're around Bristol aren't you Ian?  I'm heading off that way on
Sunday - hope it isn't too bad by then as I'm heading back in the car.

Looks like I'll be in for an interesting ferry crossing judging by the
forecast - 28mph in Portsmouth on Sunday & 24 Monday - least I should be
in France back before the 35 forecast on Tuesday!

Matt
Ian Rawlings - 11 Jan 2008 20:59 GMT
> You're around Bristol aren't you Ian?  I'm heading off that way on
> Sunday - hope it isn't too bad by then as I'm heading back in the car.

I'm about an hour and a half south of Bristol, and the roads should be
nice and icy by the time you get here so chuck a few bags of grit in
the boot!  Right now all is peaceful, no rain or snow, just the usual
wind..

Lots of farmland around here, making for some interesting colours and
smells of the farmland runoff that was cascading down some roads,
didn't fancy getting any of that on me!  Surprised my tyres didn't
melt.

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