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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / January 2008

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Glass fuses for old LRs?

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Bob Hobden - 23 Jan 2008 17:07 GMT
So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
They seem to be 30mm maybe a little smaller but some I bought at Halfrauds
are too long and they don't do the range anyway.
I need the normal 2.5, 8, 10, 12 &17 amp continuous (which you double for
the fuse rating).

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Lee_D - 23 Jan 2008 17:10 GMT
Bob Hobden <bobh@invalid.com> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
> They seem to be 30mm maybe a little smaller but some I bought at
> Halfrauds are too long and they don't do the range anyway.
> I need the normal 2.5, 8, 10, 12 &17 amp continuous (which you double
> for the fuse rating).

http://wwww.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/fuse-2/fuse-2.html

:-)

Lee D
Bob Hobden - 24 Jan 2008 17:26 GMT
> Bob Hobden  uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> :-)

Bugger! I have just found their catalogue in with the Key Power Cut-off
Switch I ordered from them the other day after a previous thread. I could
spend a fortune, so many tasty bits and pieces, horns, lights, dials.......

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Dave Plowman (News) - 23 Jan 2008 17:18 GMT
> So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
> They seem to be 30mm maybe a little smaller but some I bought at
> Halfrauds are too long and they don't do the range anyway. I need the
> normal 2.5, 8, 10, 12 &17 amp continuous (which you double for the fuse
> rating).

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/fuses/fuses.php

Ask for their free cat. If you're into vehicle electrics it will keep you
busy for a fair time. ;-)

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Rich B - 23 Jan 2008 17:33 GMT
Dave Plowman (News) typed:
>> So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
>> They seem to be 30mm maybe a little smaller but some I bought at
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Ask for their free cat. If you're into vehicle electrics it will keep
> you busy for a fair time. ;-)

What?  Playing with all the different coloured wires like a ball of wool?

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Carl Hadley - 23 Jan 2008 17:37 GMT
Also

http://www.holden.co.uk/default.asp

> So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
> They seem to be 30mm maybe a little smaller but some I bought at Halfrauds
> are too long and they don't do the range anyway.
> I need the normal 2.5, 8, 10, 12 &17 amp continuous (which you double for
> the fuse rating).
Bob Hobden - 24 Jan 2008 00:06 GMT
> Also
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> I need the normal 2.5, 8, 10, 12 &17 amp continuous (which you double for
>> the fuse rating).

Doesn't say the length of the fuses and that's important, it's one of the
problems I've encountered with some fuses being too long which prompted me
to ask the original question. A lot of the fuses out there do not fit the
fuse box.

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Carl Hadley - 24 Jan 2008 10:06 GMT
>> Also
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> to ask the original question. A lot of the fuses out there do not fit the
> fuse box.

Carl H
Alex - 23 Jan 2008 21:48 GMT
>So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
>They seem to be 30mm maybe a little smaller but some I bought at Halfrauds
>are too long and they don't do the range anyway.
>I need the normal 2.5, 8, 10, 12 &17 amp continuous (which you double for
>the fuse rating).

1"1/4, or 32mm Glass fuses.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=461&doy=23m1

Alex
Bob Hobden - 23 Jan 2008 23:54 GMT
"Alex"  wrote after
"Bob Hobden" asked
>>So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
>>They seem to be 30mm maybe a little smaller but some I bought at Halfrauds
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=461&doy=23m1

Do they fit the fuse box of a 1987 90? I thought they were 30mm long fuses
at max.

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Andrew T. - 24 Jan 2008 08:43 GMT
> "Alex"  wrote after
> "Bob Hobden" asked
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Regards
> Bob Hobden

As you have already discovered, they do not quite fit,  I had the same
problem for my 110, had some delivered from Beamends, whose supplier
assured us they would fit but didn't, Richard of course put it right
straight away, so you could try him, as he knows the issues. I've lost
all my emails so can't check out the size I eventually got.

Andrew
Duracell Bunny - 25 Jan 2008 04:48 GMT
>> So where are you guys getting your glass fuses from for your old LRs?
>> They seem to be 30mm maybe a little smaller but some I bought at Halfrauds
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Alex

It's not too hard to repair glass fuses, if you can solder - just unsolder the
ends, pass new fuse wire through, re-solder.
No fuse wire in stock? Strip some spare stranded wire, comes in various thicknesses.

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Dave Plowman (News) - 25 Jan 2008 09:29 GMT
> It's not too hard to repair glass fuses, if you can solder - just
> unsolder the ends, pass new fuse wire through, re-solder. No fuse wire
> in stock? Strip some spare stranded wire, comes in various thicknesses.

I owned an old Bentley once with re-wirable fuses. A card of fuse wire and
a screwdriver included in the fusebox. But replacing fuses shouldn't be an
everyday occurrence.

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Dave Liquorice - 25 Jan 2008 11:03 GMT
> It's not too hard to repair glass fuses, if you can solder - just
> unsolder the ends, pass new fuse wire through, re-solder.

Yep.

> No fuse wire in stock? Strip some spare stranded wire, comes in various
> thicknesses.

OK as a quick fix but fuse wire is not the same as copper wire from flex.
I'm pretty sure fuse wire is a copper alloy, though google fails to
quickly find anything definitive. Mainly to bring the 1084C melting point
of copper down to something a bit more manageable.

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EMB - 25 Jan 2008 11:26 GMT
> OK as a quick fix but fuse wire is not the same as copper wire from flex.
> I'm pretty sure fuse wire is a copper alloy,

Tin/Lead, Tin/Silver normally, sometimes a copper alloy.
Dave Liquorice - 25 Jan 2008 12:42 GMT
>> I'm pretty sure fuse wire is a copper alloy,
>
> Tin/Lead, Tin/Silver normally, sometimes a copper alloy.

The fuse wire I have handy is copper coloured inside, there were some
references on google to tin/lead (60/40 but that is "solder"...) and other
tin alloys with silver and aluminium being mentioned.

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Dave Plowman (News) - 25 Jan 2008 15:37 GMT
> OK as a quick fix but fuse wire is not the same as copper wire from
> flex. I'm pretty sure fuse wire is a copper alloy, though google fails
> to quickly find anything definitive. Mainly to bring the 1084C melting
> point of copper down to something a bit more manageable.

Might be the case but if you look at a slowmo of a fuse blowing it gets
white hot before doing so.

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Dave Liquorice - 25 Jan 2008 16:15 GMT
> Might be the case but if you look at a slowmo of a fuse blowing it gets
> white hot before doing so.

Sounds like serious overload rather than a more moderate one. OK wire
fuses are pretty crap at moderate overloads but they still will fail given
time.

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AJG - 25 Jan 2008 17:58 GMT
>> Might be the case but if you look at a slowmo of a fuse blowing it gets
>> white hot before doing so.
>
>Sounds like serious overload rather than a more moderate one. OK wire
>fuses are pretty crap at moderate overloads but they still will fail given
>time.

Often standard fuse wire is just small gauge iron wire which is why it
can glow before failing (and why it rusts if left in a damp place!!!)
and also why it's a pain to solder without corrosive flux.
Tin/lead etc alloys melt without much visible light at far lower
temperatures and tend to be far too soft for unsupported use.
Nichrome has the physical properties to work but electrically has too
much resistance to be practically useful ... except in your toaster!

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