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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / January 2008

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front centre seat belts + MOT

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Tom Woods - 26 Jan 2008 19:19 GMT
1969 Series 2A

Is the centre front seatbelt required/tested for the MOT? I currently
have a centre seat fitted.
I know i need (and have) the other 2 seatbelts but i cant find any
reference to the 3rd seat on any mot sites.

Fitted the seat because it was getting in my way in the shed and thought
i might aswell - and it reinforces the knackered seat box!
Just realised that i might need to put a seat belt in too.

If I do need a seatbelt, then i assume a lap only belt is sufficient?

got a few of them about and guess i can just share the existing stalk
mounting points?
SteveG - 26 Jan 2008 20:01 GMT
> 1969 Series 2A
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> got a few of them about and guess i can just share the existing stalk
> mounting points?

The on-line MOT Testers Manual appears to suggest that a centre front
seat doesn't require a seat belt.

www.motuk.co.uk/manual_510.htm

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Tom Woods - 26 Jan 2008 20:11 GMT
> The on-line MOT Testers Manual appears to suggest that a centre front
> seat doesn't require a seat belt.
>
> www.motuk.co.uk/manual_510.htm

Ta, it does seem to say no requirement for one. nice and easy for me then!

That manual is hard to understand though. It also says there is no
requirement for rear belts on forward facing rear seats prior to 1987
and i'm sure that last time i had my car MOT's he um'd and aahd on this
point (my car is a 1980 with no rear belts) and i was sure the
changeover date for rear belt was very early 80's..
SteveG - 26 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT
>> The on-line MOT Testers Manual appears to suggest that a centre front
>> seat doesn't require a seat belt.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> point (my car is a 1980 with no rear belts) and i was sure the
> changeover date for rear belt was very early 80's..

I agree that this is difficult to understand at times. Of course, it's
written as a reminder for someone who's been on a training course .. a
bit like M$ documentation :-)

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Steve G

Bill - 27 Jan 2008 08:34 GMT
One of the many, many reasons I swapped the Defender for a Disco was
that, having bought a 3rd seat, and got a belt for it from my son who
'happened to have one', we found that only a non-inertia reel one would
fit.

At this stage I asked at a local MOT station, who said that they would
require one, but just a lap belt. I didn't try a tour of other places
for a second opinion, and just took the seat out for the MOT.

Anyone in the North West looking for one?

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Austin Shackles - 27 Jan 2008 14:10 GMT
>>> The on-line MOT Testers Manual appears to suggest that a centre front
>>> seat doesn't require a seat belt.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>written as a reminder for someone who's been on a training course .. a
>bit like M$ documentation :-)

I bet you it'll fail, though.  And depending on vehicle age it may
contravene C&U or other regulations.
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hugh - 27 Jan 2008 20:03 GMT
>>>> The on-line MOT Testers Manual appears to suggest that a centre front
>>>> seat doesn't require a seat belt.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>I bet you it'll fail, though.  And depending on vehicle age it may
>contravene C&U or other regulations.
I was a bit puzzled by the link given earlier as it implied, no stated
that post 1965 vehicles 1-8 passengers did not need a belt on centre
front passenger seat.

From what I remember it was the introduction of compulsory seat belts
that killed off the bench seat in the front.
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hugh - 26 Jan 2008 21:30 GMT
>> 1969 Series 2A
>>  Is the centre front seatbelt required/tested for the MOT? I
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>www.motuk.co.uk/manual_510.htm

Might I suggest checking C&U Regulations regarding requirement for seat
belts for front seats.

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SteveG - 27 Jan 2008 11:38 GMT
>>> 1969 Series 2A
>>>  Is the centre front seatbelt required/tested for the MOT? I
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Might I suggest checking C&U Regulations regarding requirement for seat
> belts for front seats.

Does anyone have a link to an on-line version of C&U Regs?

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Dougal - 27 Jan 2008 12:04 GMT
>>>> 1969 Series 2A
>>>>  Is the centre front seatbelt required/tested for the MOT? I
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>
> Does anyone have a link to an on-line version of C&U Regs?

Yes and No!

They're normally here:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/stat.htm

- and you may well find the later amendments including anything
referring to seat belts.

The original document though is, I believe, Statutory Instrument 1078 of
1986 which predates the stuff available on the web ... unless there's a
copy somewhere else .....

You can get a huge list of the amendments by searching on the above page
for:
"Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986"
but it's not a great help.
Austin Shackles - 28 Jan 2008 13:58 GMT
>Does anyone have a link to an on-line version of C&U Regs?

I can recommend http://www.hughesguides.com, especially for vehicle
legislation.

been subscribing to him for several years now, good service for the price,
when you consider how much it costs otherwise.
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