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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / February 2008Windscreens
Hi all, 300 Tdi Disco, top windscreen seal has suddenly popped up in a couple of places, for about a foot long. It did this originally last year when the monkeys ripped it apart at Longleat but it was 'easy' to repair by pushing it back and using black silicone sealer. Tried to do that today but it's much harder and feels very brittle, and now I'd like to get it done correctly ... you're not meant to have a shower whilst driving, are you? So, has anyone successfully replaced a complete front windscreen and all it's seals? How easy is it to do, bearing in mind I'd have to do it outside on a car=park without cover (possibility of erecting a gazebo over it)? How long would it take someone to do? Is it possible for one man to do it properly? Any special tools needed?As you might guess I'm a little wary of tackling this alone and am seriously thinking of taking it to RCV, local 4x4 specialist. Anyone any clue as to how much they'd charge?  SignaturePaul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > thinking of taking it to RCV, local 4x4 specialist. Anyone any clue as > to how much they'd charge? Should you decide to get help, you don't want a 4x4 specialist: you want one of the windscreen replacement firms. They'll do it quicker, more cheaply and you're more likely to get a satisfactory result. > > Hi all, > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > want one of the windscreen replacement firms. They'll do it quicker, > more cheaply and you're more likely to get a satisfactory result. Good point. Do you know if they'll strip all the old seal out? Last time I had one done by a 'windscreen specialist' all they did was use a penknife to cut the screen out, bead of sealer and windscreen back in .. though it _was_ a Renault ... ;) SignaturePaul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' >>>Hi all, >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > penknife to cut the screen out, bead of sealer and windscreen back in > .. though it _was_ a Renault ... ;) From your description this is not a 'glued-in' screen. It also sounds as though the old seal is past its best - or is it just the locking strip that came out? It's unlikely that anyone (dealer or windscreen specialist) will carry the full seal in stock so whether you provide the new seal or get them to do so is up to you. If you just need locking strip the windscreen chaps are likely to have some. Why not go to speak to them and get them to tell you what it needs? You should be aware of the possibility that the screen aperture has corroded and that's the root cause of your problems - then no-one will want to know you! > > > > Hi all, > > > > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > corroded and that's the root cause of your problems - then no-one > will want to know you! Heheheh, yeah, that'd be my luck again. Cheers. SignaturePaul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' > > > > Hi all, > > > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > as though the old seal is past its best - or is it just the locking > strip that came out? I think it is glued in, onto a large, what looks like a 1/2" diameter maybe larger, bead, but also with a rubber/plastic seal that goes onto the edge of the screen and pushes onto the steel window opening of the body. It's this seal which feels brittle and has opened up Been looking in the dakr with a torch so might be a bit wrong .. ;) SignaturePaul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' > I think it is glued in, onto a large, what looks like a 1/2" diameter > maybe larger, bead, but also with a rubber/plastic seal that goes onto > the edge of the screen and pushes onto the steel window opening of the > body. It's this seal which feels brittle and has opened up Been > looking in the dakr with a torch so might be a bit wrong .. ;) In that case it's merely cosmetic and a less than urgent job to get it sorted. > > I think it is glued in, onto a large, what looks like a 1/2" > > diameter maybe larger, bead, but also with a rubber/plastic seal [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > In that case it's merely cosmetic and a less than urgent job to get > it sorted. That helps a bit, I don't have access to my manual at the moment so can't see how it should all go ... so it probably looks worse to me than it actually is. SignaturePaul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' > That helps a bit, I don't have access to my manual at the moment so > can't see how it should all go ... so it probably looks worse to me > than it actually is. Any halfway decent windscreen place should have various 'universal' trim mouldings in stock. With a bit of careful surgery they should be able to remove the old one and fit a new one without disturbing the screen (or for that matter you could probably do it). > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > thinking of taking it to RCV, local 4x4 specialist. Anyone any clue as > to how much they'd charge? Cant you claim on your insurance?? I got a new one in my 90 - only £60. Man turns up, 20 mins its done. Plus you get some comeback if it leaks :) SignatureMark 1996 90 300tdi 1987 RR V8 EFI 2007 Golf GT http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ - Firefox Rules! http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ - FTP Plugin for Firefox http://ietab.mozdev.org/ - IE tab. Get Windows updates in Firefox >> Hi all, >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Plus you get some comeback if it leaks :) It's a defender...born to leak :-) Lee D Check insurance policy and if covered stick a brick through it and phone nice windscreen repair man. He turns up and does all the work for you. > > Hi all, > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Plus you get some comeback if it leaks :) Last time we had that done they didn't replace the outer seals ... they just stick a new windscreen in, and it's the outer seals that's gone. SignaturePaul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' >> > Hi all, >> > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >Last time we had that done they didn't replace the outer seals ... they >just stick a new windscreen in, and it's the outer seals that's gone. see other post - tell them that the screen's broke, and oh, BTW, the rubber's split so you might need to replace it. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! On or around Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:12:27 +0000, Mark Solesbury <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> enlightened us thusly: >Cant you claim on your insurance?? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Plus you get some comeback if it leaks :) a quick point to note here: If you;re claiming on the insurance for a windscreen and the rubber seal stuff is in bad condition, tell them before they come that the seal is manky and they may need to replace that as well. I had one done on the insurance, and the Autoglass boys said "pity we didn't know the rubber bit was iffy, we could've brought a new one" OWTTE. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! > On or around Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:12:27 +0000, Mark Solesbury > <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > didn't know the rubber bit was iffy, we could've brought a new one" > OWTTE. That's the problem, It's not an insurance claim and the windscreen's fine ... it really is just the seal that's gone. Having had a look at it in daylight it seems repairable by me ... I think I'll use a heat gun to make it a bit more flexible and maybe a hot glue gun to stick it down, short section at a time. My first glances and looking in the dark with a torch made it look like the windscreen had popped out, but it looks sound enough now. SignaturePaul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' > Having had a look at it in daylight it seems repairable by me ... I > think I'll use a heat gun to make it a bit more flexible and maybe a > hot glue gun to stick it down, short section at a time. Glue it in with the proper urethane sealant - it should hold in ok with gaffer tape whilst the urethane sets. >> On or around Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:12:27 +0000, Mark Solesbury >> <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >That's the problem, It's not an insurance claim and the windscreen's >fine ... it really is just the seal that's gone. yebbut, it could be ;-) The way the bloody council round here surface roads, I'm amazed that mine only has 2 chips/cracks. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! > >> On or around Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:12:27 +0000, Mark Solesbury > >> <marksolesbury@asearchenginethatnowdoeseverythingmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > yebbut, it could be ;-) The way the bloody council round here surface > roads, I'm amazed that mine only has 2 chips/cracks. Heheheh I know. Doesn't seem right though ... SignaturePaul - xxx '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch' '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed' Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough' |
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