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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / February 2008

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TD5 Top Hose Bleeder

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Dave Liquorice - 12 Feb 2008 20:19 GMT
Blooming thing sheared off just below the cap, noticed this large wet
patch on the drive on Sunday.

Got the threaded stub out and a replacement bleed screw but that doesn't
really seal completely. Close examination of the top hose shows a small
indentation in the squidgy bit that should seal into the under side of the
bleed screw top.

Questions:

Does this modern OAT antifreeze stuff behave like the older stuff to seal
tiny leaks after a while?

If not any bright ideas on how to make the bleed screw to top hose seal?
I've tightened it as much as I dare without risking shearing the new one.
I suspect the fitter murdered it up when he refilled the system after the
recent radiator change and it failed due stress a short while(*) after.

The top hose is in good condition and messing about changing it is just
asking for something else to fail after being disturbed, this is a Land
Rover after all...

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Dave.

Lee_D - 13 Feb 2008 19:53 GMT
> Blooming thing sheared off just below the cap, noticed this large wet
> patch on the drive on Sunday.
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> asking for something else to fail after being disturbed, this is a Land
> Rover after all...

I nearly suggested Blue sealant but then I'm wrestling with the thought of
the system slowly emptying by steam rather than a visible leak. I'd hate to
be responsible for engine melt down so on this occasion I'd say new hose. If
it were mine I'd be concerned it could let me down when I need it most.

Lee D
Dave Liquorice - 13 Feb 2008 21:33 GMT
> I nearly suggested Blue sealant but then I'm wrestling with the thought
> of the system slowly emptying by steam rather than a visible leak.

It's hardly a visible leak now... hence my query about the OAT antifreeze
sealing it in a little while anyway. I'm used to vehicles that the only
leak is from the fuel tank via the engine. Well until I bought a Land
Rover, that does occasionally drop a bit of oil.

> If it were mine I'd be concerned it could let me down when I need it
> most.

I can't envisage a sudden failure mode. Think of an square section O ring
with a little dent in it that you can't *quite* squish out when your
tighten the top, that has a groove to take the O ring, down onto it. Given
time and a bit of heat it may remould itself to the underside of the top.

Topped it up today before going to Carlisle and back (50 miles) will see
how it looks in the morning. Longer run due at the weekend, I'll be taking
water...

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Dave.

Derek - 13 Feb 2008 22:05 GMT
>> Blooming thing sheared off just below the cap, noticed this large wet
>> patch on the drive on Sunday.
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>
> Lee D
Coincidentally the bleed on the 300 is looking all manky an 'orrible
so I'm thinking of nipping down the plumbers merchant and get a proper
brass one.
Derek
Skinty - 24 Feb 2008 05:59 GMT
You Could Try PTFE tape the stuff that plumbers use
Regards
Skinty

>>> Blooming thing sheared off just below the cap, noticed this large wet
>>> patch on the drive on Sunday.
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> brass one.
> Derek
Dave Liquorice - 25 Feb 2008 11:44 GMT
> You Could Try PTFE tape the stuff that plumbers use

It seems to have sealed itself or remoulded, which ever it is no longer
weeping.  B-)

Still not convinced it hasn't got a leak elsewhere though. Had to put  
200ml of coollant in this morning after about 1000 miles but there may
have been air in the system at the begining of that 1000 miles that has
now worked it's way out. I'll just keep an eye on the level for the time
being, at least there isn't a puddle underneath any more.

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Dave.

 
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