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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / February 2008Air tools :-)
Motivated by the need to check the pads on the Laguna I finally got the adapters I needed to plug in the air tools I got ages back from Aldi. VvvvrrrrrpppppptttTTTTt. :-) Oilers - Got a mini in line one.. I take it I fill it and it gradually gets used up... only a screw on it through which to fill it and nowt else. Impact wrench... Has a dial on it with numbered settings. Maybe a thick question but what will these settings adjust? ZZzzzzzzrrrrrfffpppptttTTT :-) Lee D > Motivated by the need to check the pads on the Laguna I finally got the > adapters I needed to plug in the air tools I got ages back from Aldi. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Lee D There you go Lee me old http://www.sealey-tools.co.uk/Air-Impact-Wrenches-141.shtml same kit different badge mind you they still don't tell you what the knob is for, I reckon higher number= more grunt (more air flow). I have never used the oilers I just put a couple of drops in the 'ole before I connect the tool Sealey seem to agree. I used the air chisel to shift the rusted in towbar bolts popped 'em out in seconds where heat and a 4 lb lump never budged them. Derek > Motivated by the need to check the pads on the Laguna I finally got the > adapters I needed to plug in the air tools I got ages back from Aldi. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Lee D Just restricts the air supply so it's not as savage on smaller stuff, if you're using it on stubborn wheel nuts then wind it out a full turn, you'll notice the difference immediately. Martin > Motivated by the need to check the pads on the Laguna I finally got the > adapters I needed to plug in the air tools I got ages back from Aldi. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Lee D ISTR mention of air driven impact wrenches and adjustable torque settings. Important not to over-torque the wheel nuts on a RR - see the folding wrench in the tool kit. Richard >> Motivated by the need to check the pads on the Laguna I finally got the >> adapters I needed to plug in the air tools I got ages back from Aldi. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Richard Cheers, Yep, I've no intention of using them for the final twitch so to speak. Quite clinical here when it comes to nuts and alloys. Lee D > Yep, I've no intention of using them for the final twitch so to speak. > Quite clinical here when it comes to nuts and alloys. A set of these might be in order then Lee. http://www.lasertools.co.uk/press_releases.aspx?article=131 >> Yep, I've no intention of using them for the final twitch so to speak. >> Quite clinical here when it comes to nuts and alloys. > >A set of these might be in order then Lee. > >http://www.lasertools.co.uk/press_releases.aspx?article=131 hmmm. My experience of Laser tools is that they're cheap and low-spec. It's quite possible that they do decent stuff which I've not come across though. You can also get special thing springy extension bars which limit the torque from the rattlegun.  SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>> Yep, I've no intention of using them for the final twitch so to speak. >>> Quite clinical here when it comes to nuts and alloys. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > hmmm. My experience of Laser tools is that they're cheap and low-spec. It's > quite possible that they do decent stuff which I've not come across though. I bow to your superior knowledge of the UK tool market Austin, they were just what a google search for something actually available in the UK turned up. > You can also get special thing springy extension bars which limit the torque > from the rattlegun. Of which I have a set, and bloody good they are too. >> Yep, I've no intention of using them for the final twitch so to speak. >> Quite clinical here when it comes to nuts and alloys. > > A set of these might be in order then Lee. > > http://www.lasertools.co.uk/press_releases.aspx?article=131 Cheers EMB. I didn't know such things existed or the springy things either. I'm guessing the springy things are expensive but will browse on :-) Lee D >Impact wrench... Has a dial on it with numbered settings. Maybe a thick >question but what will these settings adjust? torque, but only relatively crudely, unless it's a very good one. Don't rely on putting it on #1 to stop it stripping small threads, for example. and unless it's rated very high, you want maximum setting for wheelnuts. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>Impact wrench... Has a dial on it with numbered settings. Maybe a thick >>question but what will these settings adjust? > > torque, but only relatively crudely, unless it's a very good one. Don't > rely on putting it on #1 to stop it stripping small threads, for example. > and unless it's rated very high, you want maximum setting for wheelnuts. Beware of over tightening wheel nuts with an impact wrench. After one of our trucks lost a wheel, the management ruled that wheel nuts must be checked weekly. After a few weeks it was found that this stretched the wheel studs producing a waisted effect and you ended up with a tight wheel nut on the broken wheel stud and still losing a wheel. Alan >>>Impact wrench... Has a dial on it with numbered settings. Maybe a thick >>>question but what will these settings adjust? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > nut on the broken wheel stud and still losing a wheel. > Alan once the nuts are correctly nipped up we put markers on them.Obviates the necessity for anything other than a visual inspection http://www.checkpoint-safety.com/fr/ Derek > >>Impact wrench... Has a dial on it with numbered settings. Maybe a thick > >>question but what will these settings adjust? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > broken wheel stud and still losing a wheel. > Alan But the impact wrench that Lee is using is most likely an 1/2" drive, whereas you are probably using a 3/4" or 1" drive, a much bigger wrench, and coupled with the modern all RH thread spigot mounted CV types which have a much finer thread, consequently a lot less effort or torque is required to tighten them and also possibly stretch the studs. You will never overtighten the wheel nuts on a Landrover with most of the 1/2" drive variety of impact wrench, and certainly not stretch the studs. Martin > But the impact wrench that Lee is using is most likely an 1/2" drive, >whereas you are probably using a 3/4" or 1" drive, a much bigger wrench, and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >the wheel nuts on a Landrover with most of the 1/2" drive variety of impact >wrench, and certainly not stretch the studs. Whether the tool is capable of overtightening or not is a function of the tool, the compressor and the nuts you're tightening. My 1/2" impact wrench certainly would tighten way beyond the recommended torque. Inferring that it is reasonable use of an impact wrench in the same paragraph as stating that less torque is required to overtighten modern nuts is somewhat contradictory and probably foolhardy to say the least. Spin them on but nip up to torque by hand. SignatureAndyG > > But the impact wrench that Lee is using is most likely an 1/2" drive, > >whereas you are probably using a 3/4" or 1" drive, a much bigger wrench, and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > paragraph as stating that less torque is required to overtighten modern > nuts is somewhat contradictory and probably foolhardy to say the least. Read it again. That's not what I said. > Spin them on but nip up to torque by hand. Absolutely, s'wat I do. Martin >> Spin them on but nip up to torque by hand. > > Absolutely, s'wat I do. You must have strong fingers. SignatureCheers Dave. >Read it again. That's not what I said. Apologies - your paragraph has two meanings of which you obviously meant one and I read the other. SignatureAndyG > >Read it again. That's not what I said. > > > Apologies - your paragraph has two meanings of which you obviously meant > one and I read the other. No probs mate :-) Martin >> But the impact wrench that Lee is using is most likely an 1/2" drive, >>whereas you are probably using a 3/4" or 1" drive, a much bigger wrench, and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >paragraph as stating that less torque is required to overtighten modern >nuts is somewhat contradictory and probably foolhardy to say the least. don't know about the modern ones, but the older discos on alloys have sod-off nuts which are not tapers, they have a flange and a washer. I doubt there's much risk of overtightening them with an el-cheapo rattlgun - the el-cheapo I had wouldn't loosen the buggers if they were tight... I've not studied the modern RR/Disco nuts and studs that closely. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! > don't know about the modern ones, but the older discos on alloys have > sod-off nuts which are not tapers, they have a flange and a washer. I doubt > there's much risk of overtightening them with an el-cheapo rattlgun - the > el-cheapo I had wouldn't loosen the buggers if they were tight... I've not > studied the modern RR/Disco nuts and studs that closely. My informal testing showed that the average el-cheapo rattlegun wouldn't tighten a nut to much over 180lbft. However my CP and Snap-On rattleguns perform very close to their specifications of 500 and 450lbft respectively. The Snap-On and CP both feature a higher reverse torque so they will undo things they have tightened, the el-cheapo didn't even appear capable of this. |
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