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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / February 2008Series 2a chassis change
I was told at the last MOT that it's running out of good metal to weld to, so as it's 40 years old, I feel a birthday present would be in order. Any ideas as to how many hours labour to swap everything over onto a bare chassis? And does anyone know of anyone (apart from Blue Flame or LRS) in the Potteries area I could ask for a price? I'll be asking both of them, but it's a major investment for me, so I'd like as many options as possible. I've been using & abusing it for over 25 years, so I'm not keen on changing it for a new, unknown one. I'd *love* to do it myself, but I've got no access to anywhere I can do the work. :-( Thanks in advance.  SignatureTciao for Now! John. >I was told at the last MOT that it's running out of good metal to weld to, >so as it's 40 years old, I feel a birthday present would be in order. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks in advance. Ultimately depends on how much grief the nuts and bolts are going to give. I'd personally say around 3 full 8 hour days but then you'd also need an extra pair of hands for the lifting and shifting. You could try Beamends who also have workshop access contact Richard via the site for a quote I guess. Otherwise maybe you could commision Tom to do it as he is running out of projects ;-) More seriously you could consider getting a lock up somewhere. Otherwise there was a company doing transplants where they had a jig that lifted the whole body off then bung a new chassis under. I can't recall their name now, I'd guess it would cost but the turnaround would be v.quick. Lee D > Ultimately depends on how much grief the nuts and bolts are going to > give. I'd personally say around 3 full 8 hour days but then you'd also > need an extra pair of hands for the lifting and shifting. > > You could try Beamends who also have workshop access contact Richard via > the site for a quote I guess. definately try richard at beamends http://www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk/. John richards at hinstock (mkt drayton) are good too: http://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/ > Otherwise maybe you could commision Tom to do it as he is running out of > projects ;-) haha! i have enough projects and not enough time! I have done really well at not taking on anything new for the last 18months! > More seriously you could consider getting a lock up somewhere. when you find one let me know!. looking again along with dad who wants to store his motors+junk so he can move house. >Otherwise > there was a company doing transplants where they had a jig that lifted > the whole body off then bung a new chassis under. I can't recall their > name now, I'd guess it would cost but the turnaround would be v.quick. ive seen it done in the mags by fitting a full roof rack. TBH - you can easily strip a series landy down to a rolling chassis in an evening - then if you put your mind to it and ordered everything ready you could probably get everything transfered back across to a new one in about 3 days. >>I was told at the last MOT that it's running out of good metal to weld to, >>so as it's 40 years old, I feel a birthday present would be in order. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Lee D http://www.liveridge4x4.com/home/default.asp They did my 90 chassis a few years ago and the bulkhead in 2006. Rate them very good. No connection. Carl H <Snip...> >> Ultimately depends on how much grief the nuts and bolts are going to give. >> I'd personally say around 3 full 8 hour days but then you'd also need an [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Carl H A compendium answer.... Thanks for the ideas, I'd forgotten about Richard since he moved out of Leek. E-mail sent to him & to Liveridge. The only lockups within a sensible distance of where I live got turned into a micro housing estate a couple of years back, unfortunately, & as the Landie's my only transport at the moment, a lock up would have to be within walking distance. I was asking about how long, as the engineering department at work are offering a reasonable rate per hour on labour, & could do the job while I'm away on tour. They're good fitters, but not familiar enough with Land Rovers to guess quickly how long it'd take them. They'd be looking at a couple of days work for 2 blokes, once the parts arrive, I take it then? Not too badly off what I thought, in any case. All I'll need then will be the tuits to start using it in anger again, rather than just as a runabout. Silverdale, maybe..... One sore phone ear & dialing finger coming up. :-) SignatureTciao for Now! John. "John Williamson" wrote............ > The only lockups within a sensible distance of where I live got turned > into a micro housing estate a couple of years back, unfortunately, & as [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > One sore phone ear & dialing finger coming up. :-) I think you would be pushing it a bit to expect them to do it in two days. It's never just a chassis job, there's always lots of other things to do once you start. Don't forget that you may want or deem it necessary to change all the brake pipes, spring bushes, repair the bulkhead, rewire and rustproof the chassis etc. before you can start rebuilding, it will probably run to four or five days if you're lucky, even with help. You will never undo all the bolts, just cut them off or out and replace with new, that will save you hours of toil, believe me, I've done loads. Also check out a Marsland chassis, everything fits perfectly, heavy duty galvanised, and wax it inside and out before you bolt anything to it. No connection to them, just used plenty and been very happy with them. Martin > I think you would be pushing it a bit to expect them to do it in two days. > It's never just a chassis job, there's always lots of other things to do [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Martin I'm not expecting a 2 day turnround by any means. It'll be slotted in between them working on the coaches & buses, so waiting for parts won't be a problem. Easter to October, I go away for a week at a time, with the odd day at home, so it'll not be a rush job for them. The chief engineer used to run a fleet of series land Rovers, so he's got a pretty shrewd idea of what can go wrong & I'm sure he'll build that into his price. :-/ The chassis I was looking at for £1250ish comes galvanised, so no drastic rust proofing to do, the complete brake system would be replaced as a matter of course, & so on. The bulkhead's a bit rusty, so we'll see what needs doing there. The 2 days work for a couple of blokes would be spread over a week or two, probably. Springs & bushes are about 4 years old, one spring is a bit blown, but not unrecoverable yet, the rest are OK as far as I can tell. For the last few years, I've mostly been replacing old stuff with new as & when. Electrics, maybe it'll need a new loom, maybe I'll convert to alternator as well. Possibly even elctronic ignition.... I'm hoping to spend £2500 or so in all, but I know darn well it'll be more. Recondition the engine next year or the year after, & I've got a newish Series Landie that should last until I retire at least. It'll still *look* like a heap & give me a cold shower in the rain, though. :-) That's plan "A", so far. Plan "B" when I get the quotes in..... Marsland chassis all seem to have a bit (about 21 inches) missing, according to their website.... The one I was looking at was this one:- http://www.richardschassis.co.uk/series2.htm 109 4 cylinder. Unless people have had bad experiences with them or know a better one to look at. SignatureTciao for Now! John. >> I think you would be pushing it a bit to expect them to do it in two >> days. [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > Unless people have had bad experiences with them or know a better one to > look at. Someone here had a good report for these people: http://www.strathearnengineering.com .. perhaps they'll come forward and comment. >> I think you would be pushing it a bit to expect them to do it in two >> days. [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > Unless people have had bad experiences with them or know a better one to > look at. never a bad idea to get this months landrover comic there are usually a few offers from the fabricators there is one at Buxworth nr Whaley Bridge my pals up there have used, Buggered if I can think what they are called tho' theres this load on fleabay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-CHASSIS_W0QQitemZ260212487847QQihZ016QQcategory Z31348QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Derek >>> I think you would be pushing it a bit to expect them to do it in two >>> days. [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-CHASSIS_W0QQitemZ260212487847QQihZ016QQcategory Z31348QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Derek I'll have some time to read such things later today, but that one's Fleabay is SWB :-( I'll have a proper search after I get where I'm going later. SignatureTciao for Now! John. "John Williamson" wrote.............. Electrics, maybe it'll need a > new loom, maybe I'll convert to alternator as well. Possibly even > elctronic ignition.... If you're thinking of a new loom there's a place called Autosparks at either Nottingham Rd., Derby or Derby Rd., Nottingham ( I can't remember which) who will tailor the loom to what you want. If you remember all those 24v ex-MOD Landrovers that were released in the sixties, I used to get harnesses suitable for changing over to 12v from Autosparks in those days for about £11.00 when they were in Hull down by the river. Last time I used them at the new address they were about £130.00. They make a good loom with original looking woven covers; if you want the number I can post it. > I'm hoping to spend £2500 or so in all, but I know darn well it'll be > more. Recondition the engine next year or the year after, & I've got a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Unless people have had bad experiences with them or know a better one to > look at. First time I saw a Richards chassis was about 6 months ago and it looked very good, the owner said it was well finished and all the galvanising had been cleaned up with all threads retapped after so completely ready to fit. Looked just the same as a Marsland chassis but I've had to clean a few bits of plating up on those. Can't fault either of them but I was told the Richards chassis were true to the model with same fittings as original. Martin > "John Williamson" wrote.............. > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Martin That's good news :-) SignatureTciao for Now! John. |
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