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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / March 2008

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300tdi Not starting

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Eddie Morgan - 28 Feb 2008 15:43 GMT
Help

My def 300 tdi has decided not to start.

It turns over ok, The immobiliser light goes out ok when key is in the
ignition, so I assume it is a fuel feed problem, there is fuel in the filter
so I think it must be the solenoid that shuts off the engine is not working.
I take it that I can check the voltage at this point by a connector or such
like but I dont know where to find the thing. or which colour wire to check.

any guidence would be greatly recieved thanks or even links to photos

Eddie
Marc Draper - 28 Feb 2008 17:57 GMT
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>Eddie

The wire is the only one, on a Defender, that goes to the injection
pump.

If you can't find the injection pump then perhaps it might be a good
idea to get a manual.

Check for power at the solenoid when the ignition is on. It is not
uncommon for the immobilser to fail in such a way that allows you to
crank the engine but sill does not supply power to the fuel solenoid.

The wire could be loose and have fallen off !!!
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karangahape - 28 Feb 2008 18:25 GMT
The shut off solenoid is located on the drivers side of the engine near the
top - easy to access. Although it's a single wire which should have 12volts
on it, might come from a 3 pin connector block. these connecters work loose
and can fail. Try waggling it with the ignition on and you may hear a slight
clicking as the solenoid activates and closes. Usually easy to fix and if
the power is lost completely from the circuit, you can remove the actuating
mechanism from the solenoid. But of course the engine won't stop on the key
and you'll have to stall the truck!....k
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Oily - 28 Feb 2008 18:53 GMT
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> If you can't find the injection pump then perhaps it might be a good
> idea to get a manual.

I know I shouldn't but that made me PML.  :-)

M

> Check for power at the solenoid when the ignition is on. It is not
> uncommon for the immobilser to fail in such a way that allows you to
> crank the engine but sill does not supply power to the fuel solenoid.
>
> The wire could be loose and have fallen off !!!
Eddie Morgan - 28 Feb 2008 22:41 GMT
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> Eddie

THANKS PEOPLE

PS I  have the workshop manual but it is far from clear,

There is a round connecter on top with 3 wires into it, So I take it this
is the one, but which of the 3 should have 12V on it? On the wiring diagram
i have it shows this as a white wire, but none that colour in site! towards
the rear of the pump almost underneath there is a black wire that connects
on a spade connector, does anyone know what this does?
SteveG - 29 Feb 2008 08:30 GMT
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> the rear of the pump almost underneath there is a black wire that connects
> on a spade connector, does anyone know what this does?

The wire on the spade connector is the feed for the solenoid, although
I've only ever seen the wire in white. This connection is notorious for
giving trouble so give it a really good clean. You might even consider
cutting of the spade connector and fitting a new one.

As the wire is black, trace it back and see if it's been spliced
somewhere - maybe a previous owner had the same trouble.

HTH

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Steve G

Eddie Morgan - 29 Feb 2008 10:04 GMT
Thanks Steve thats what i was looking for

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Marc Draper - 29 Feb 2008 12:35 GMT
> There is a round connecter on top with 3 wires into it, So I take it this
>is the one, but which of the 3 should have 12V on it? On the wiring diagram
>i have it shows this as a white wire, but none that colour in site! towards
>the rear of the pump almost underneath there is a black wire that connects
>on a spade connector, does anyone know what this does?

The round connector with the 3 wires on top is the EGR with system

The black wire with the spade connector located at the back of the pump
is the one you want.
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Eddie Morgan - 03 Mar 2008 21:33 GMT
Thanks again everybody!

new spade terminal fitted

>> There is a round connecter on top with 3 wires into it, So I take it this
>>is the one, but which of the 3 should have 12V on it? On the wiring
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> The black wire with the spade connector located at the back of the pump is
> the one you want.
 
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