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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / March 2008

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Fuel pipe repair

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Richard the Bodger - 03 Mar 2008 13:02 GMT
While replacing the rear floor  I broke the fuel pipe (corroded) into the
water trap. It is a piece of 8mm steel pipe pushed into a plasic pipe.
I have a new piece of 8mm copper with a new olive but can't get it into the
plastic feed from the tank.
I have tried boiling water to soften the pipe but it won't soften it.
I have tried a heat gun which destroys it.
Has anyone managed to do this?

Thanks
Richard
1992 Disco 200tdi
www.artfulbodgers.co.uk
Tom Woods - 03 Mar 2008 16:30 GMT
> While replacing the rear floor  I broke the fuel pipe (corroded) into the
> water trap. It is a piece of 8mm steel pipe pushed into a plasic pipe.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I have tried a heat gun which destroys it.
> Has anyone managed to do this?

sometimes you can hold/leave the plastic pipe in some boiling water and
it may soften it enough. wont melt it like the heat gun.
Lee_D - 03 Mar 2008 16:48 GMT
>> While replacing the rear floor  I broke the fuel pipe (corroded) into the
>> water trap. It is a piece of 8mm steel pipe pushed into a plasic pipe.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> sometimes you can hold/leave the plastic pipe in some boiling water and it
> may soften it enough. wont melt it like the heat gun.

New pipe I fear may be the order of the day. As the old pipe ages it becomes
hardened and brittle. I replaced my last lot on a RRC. That was being used
for diesel. It certainly doesn't agree with Plamsa cutters and burning
underseal amazing how fast you can connect a garden hose when you need to!)

Lee D
Oily - 03 Mar 2008 19:59 GMT
> >> While replacing the rear floor  I broke the fuel pipe (corroded) into the
> >> water trap. It is a piece of 8mm steel pipe pushed into a plasic pipe.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> New pipe I fear may be the order of the day. As the old pipe ages it becomes
> hardened and brittle.

New pipe is best option.  The only way to fit the steel to the nylon pipe is
to press them together and without suitable tools you may have a problem.
If you warm the pipe, it will not shrink to fit when it cools and will
surely leak.

Martin
Dougal - 03 Mar 2008 20:16 GMT
>>>>While replacing the rear floor  I broke the fuel pipe (corroded) into
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Martin

It's not easy but far from impossible.

Try to do the job off the vehicle so that you can apply maximum force.
Chamfer the outside of the metal tube to ease fitting.
I think that I used a hot air gun played (keep it moving) from a
suitable distance.
Try to pre-expand the end of the nylon tube before attempting to insert
the metal tube for the final push. Make up a tapered wooden/metal spike
to do this. Don't overdo this - just enough to ease entry.
Be very careful to keep the two pieces in line. Avoid kinking the nylon,
grasp it as close to the metal insert as you can. Once you've got it
well started you can warm the nylon more and apply more pressure to
increase the engagement.
I've never had problems with leaks - never got the nylon big enough to
need to shrinking back on! Tight all the way.
Tom Woods - 03 Mar 2008 17:09 GMT
>> While replacing the rear floor  I broke the fuel pipe (corroded) into
>> the water trap. It is a piece of 8mm steel pipe pushed into a plasic
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> sometimes you can hold/leave the plastic pipe in some boiling water and
> it may soften it enough. wont melt it like the heat gun.

Having actually read your post properly now, you already said you tried
that! sorry!

I have joined the 8mm petrol pipes on the eberspacher on my 101 with
both a bit of brake pipe inside it (not sure what this would do to fuel
pressure delivery on an engine though as its quite narrow), and by using
an in line filter.
 
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