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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / March 2008Aldi again from this Thursday
Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_5285.htm Regards Bob H > Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... > > http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_5285.htm > > Regards > Bob H It would have been twice the price, but sadly it has Vista on it ! At work they were going to roll out Vista last year, but it was delayed because most of our stuff didn't work on it. Then I think they were waiting for SP1, but that was delayed by Microsoft - but should be coming out soon. Then we can test out all the stuff that didn't work again, we are now expecting to get it in early 2009. I am beginning to think Mac or Linux (though both are based on good old 1970s Unix - which is like buying a new car and finding its got an engine with 'Austin' stamped on the rocker cover). Steve > > Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Steve aaah yes, the Vista Virus.... Took ages to remove it from a brand new laptop I bought. Slowed a perfectly high spec laptop right down. >> > Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Took ages to remove it from a brand new laptop I bought. Slowed a > perfectly high spec laptop right down. Doesn't "Format C: <enter>" (or whatever the menu commands are) work to eradicate the unwanted then? Steve >Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... > >http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_5285.htm > >Regards >Bob H Hmmm. High-end about a year ago... 3GB ram is only just adequate for vista, 8600GT 256MB graphics card is pants. Can't really comment on the processor, I favour AMD ones. 500GB SATA is pretty ordinary now too. Frankly, it's not that good a bargain.  SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! > Can't really comment on the processor, I favour AMD ones. Time for a paradigm shift Austin (I've just bought my first Intel PC in years) - right now AMD are lagging Intel in both the performance and TDP stakes by so much it's painful. > Time for a paradigm shift Austin (I've just bought my first Intel PC in > years) - right now AMD are lagging Intel in both the performance and TDP > stakes by so much it's painful. Indeedy, AMD were tops until Intel realised the mistake they made with the Pentium 4 and wound back to an enhanced pentium 3 and whacked a few cores onto a chip to make the core duo processors, core 2 duos are my stock processor these days. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! http://youtube.com/user/tarcus69 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarcus/ >> Time for a paradigm shift Austin (I've just bought my first Intel PC in >> years) - right now AMD are lagging Intel in both the performance and TDP [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > few cores onto a chip to make the core duo processors, core 2 duos are > my stock processor these days. Running Vista 64 bit with 2 gig here no problems - other than odd bits of software and hardware not being compatible. Only thing I'd do different is get the 32 bit version. 2.6 gig Duo Pentium chip. Lee D > Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... > > http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_5285.htm It's not that big a bargain, especially as it has bloody Vista on it. Ebuyer will sell you better for less these days. I'm afraid the days when Aldi computers were way over the spec of everyone else's for the money are gone. The only reason to buy this one is all the clever high definition video, audio and TV stuff if you wanted to use it as a home entertainment centre linked to a TV/home cinema system, but as a domestic desk top, for that price, it's pants... SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. >> Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >> >> http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_5285.htm > > It's not that big a bargain, especially as it has bloody Vista on it. The 3 year warranty would add quite a lot to the cost from other suppliers. Mike www.farend.org.uk >>> Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >The 3 year warranty would add quite a lot to the cost from other suppliers. but in 3 years the thing will be worthless anyway. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>> Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The 3 year warranty would add quite a lot to the cost from other > suppliers. Have you had any PC hardware go wrong in the first three years in the past decade? The days when a hard disc was expected to shred itself or a CD drive get clogged with dust in eighteen months have long gone. Software: 'Just do a reinstall with the supplied disc mate'... SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. >> Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ebuyer will sell you better for less these days. Perhaps you could be kind enough to point out the model number(s) for me on the eBuyer site. Or anywhere for that matter. Pete >>> Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Perhaps you could be kind enough to point out the model number(s) for me > on the eBuyer site. Or anywhere for that matter. What spec do you want? As I said, if you want an entertainment centre it's fine. If you're sold on Vista it's fine as well. Not many people want either. Last month they had the same box on sale, there were still three (out of the fourteen delivered, I asked) there in the store the next day. The days when the Aldi computers flew out of the store in the first five minutes after opening are gone... SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. >>>> Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > The days when the Aldi computers flew out of the store in the first five > minutes after opening are gone... The best you can say is its competitive in that market sector let down by the video card I might start building systems again at this rate but there's more money in just doing upgrades where the customer sees a large improvement in performance for little money - thank Pissy world for selling integrated video and tiny amounts of ram. Derek >>>>> Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> The days when the Aldi computers flew out of the store in the first five >> minutes after opening are gone... > The best you can say is its competitive in that market sector let down > by the video card I might start building systems again at this rate but > there's more money in just doing upgrades where the customer > sees a large improvement in performance for little money - thank > Pissy world for selling integrated video and tiny amounts of ram. The gamers are all getting into something called 'Second Life' at the moment, and I believe that has fierce graphics card requirements. SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. > The gamers are all getting into something called 'Second Life' at the > moment, and I believe that has fierce graphics card requirements. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach > Time for tea. Are you sure its not called "Get a life" ? Though I suppose the push for increasingly realistic games simulations will have benefits in what I call real world situations, training simulators for example. Like the little poem ... Steve >The gamers are all getting into something called 'Second Life' at the >moment, and I believe that has fierce graphics card requirements. real-time 3-d interactive, and you need a fair old connection to get good results. I looked at it, but I didn't really see the point. It's more or less IRC with graphical bells and whistles... SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>>>>> Heads up all those that want a new high end PC.... >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > The gamers are all getting into something called 'Second Life' at the > moment, and I believe that has fierce graphics card requirements. Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup its hitting 100fps with everything on so I can live with the tyros and kiddles and give them a kicking. Derek > Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup its > hitting > 100fps with everything on so I can live with the tyros and kiddles and > give them > a kicking. > Derek Not my scene I'm afraid, although I keep getting pestered for a better graphics card by the wife. What's the cheapest one that'll do everything modern? SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. >> Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup its >> hitting [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > What's the cheapest one that'll do everything modern? define: 'everything' some of the fps (first person shooters) games need near nuclear cards to get a half decent frame rate same with video rendering for everything else presuming you have a board with agp http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-video-cards-money-UK,review-2379-5.html Derek >>> Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup its >>> hitting [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > rendering for everything else presuming you have a board with agp > http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-video-cards-money-UK,review-2379-5.html On my PC it's PCI or PCI express. It's a 'small footprint' Dell. SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. >>>> Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup >>>> its hitting [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > It's a 'small footprint' Dell. Should have guessed it would be a later machine I'm set on a stable agp that is at the end of its upgrade path but does everything I need at a decent level. the PCI-e chart is at http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-video-cards-money-UK,review-2379-2.html much the same results- bargain basement is the Geforce 7600GS at £38 (Aria) but if you need support for DirectX10 then the GeForce 8600GT is probably a better buy at £54 http://tinyurl.com/27kre9 Derek >>>>> Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup >>>>> its hitting [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >http://tinyurl.com/27kre9 >Derek The 8500GT is pants. I've got one here, the 7900GTX knocks spots off it. Anyway, the 9600GT is the new one. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>>>>> Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup >>>>>> its hitting [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>http://tinyurl.com/27kre9 >>Derek Austin responded > The 8500GT is pants. I've got one here, the 7900GTX knocks spots off it. Anyway, the 9600GT is the new one fair enough however the 7900gtx is neither cheap at £198.58 ( if you can find one) nor does it support DirectX10 and neither is it a 8600GT which runs benchmarks 80% faster than the 8500GT http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4902&s=10 I guess you misread the model - should have gone to specsavers :-) and the 9600gt is newer but is about twice the price OP did say cheapest one so I reckon thats a fair compromise. I wish the buggers would stop having all these none intuitive model numbers tho' its like plaiting fog trying to compare and don't mention bloody intel. Derek >>>>>>> Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup >>>>>>> its hitting [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >fair enough however the 7900gtx is neither cheap at £198.58 ( if you can >find one) I did read it right, but there's a tendency to assume that the 8500GT would be nearly as good as the 8600GT, and it's not. The 7900GTX was 80 quid, BTW. dunno where you got that price, and yes, they're not easy to find now. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>>>>>>> Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) >>>>>>>> setup [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > The 7900GTX was 80 quid, BTW. dunno where you got that price, and yes, > they're not easy to find now. You got a good price at 80 I reckon they will be waiting a while before it fetchs the money they are asking maybe an error of course tho' it is a 512mb http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Bargain+Basement/Z-POV+Nvidia+7900GTX-512Mb?produ ctId=29409 its even dearer elsewhere http://www.baztex.com/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=GBP&products_id=13722 I don't recall if it was that series but some geforce cards could be unlocked to produce stunning performance as they were really a much better card downgraded in the bios. The bios could be flashed to open pipelines and reset the spec. I'd would have offered a radeon but their model numbers and pricing is even more impenetrable I've got a agp cracker stashed away that easily matches my 5900XT Derek >You got a good price at 80 I reckon they will be waiting a while before it >fetchs >the money they are asking maybe an error of course tho' it is a 512mb >http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Bargain+Basement/Z-POV+Nvidia+7900GTX-512Mb?produ ctId=29409 >its even dearer elsewhere >http://www.baztex.com/product_info.php?language=en¤cy=GBP&products_id=13722 crooks. Mine's a 512, too. There's a thing called coolbitz that you can install in the registry, which lets you play with more settings including GPU clock, graphics ram clock and so on. Dunno if that's the same as you mention below. >I don't recall if it was that series but some geforce cards could be >unlocked to produce >stunning performance as they were really a much better card downgraded in >the bios. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>You got a good price at 80 I reckon they will be waiting a while before it >>fetchs [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > GPU clock, graphics ram clock and so on. Dunno if that's the same as you > mention below. I've been discussing this with a mate who's some sort of computer guru, although not PCs, he's a Unix admin and so deeply cynical about the whole PC/Micro$oft thing. He says the whole thing sounds like some sort of fiddle so that the people who make expensive computers for hard core-games players get to make even more money by fitting a card that gives the same performance as an expensive card but only costs pennies. He reckons that somewhere there'll almost certainly be a cheap card that'll do everything the expensive ones will, but at about a third the cost. The trick seems to be to find it... SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. > crooks. Mine's a 512, too. There's a thing called coolbitz that you can > install in the registry, which lets you play with more settings including > GPU clock, graphics ram clock and so on. Dunno if that's the same as you > mention below. I think most of the BIOS hacks are to open up the data pipes between the GPU and the memory that have been disabled on the lower cost/spec cards. >> crooks. Mine's a 512, too. There's a thing called coolbitz that you can >> install in the registry, which lets you play with more settings including [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I think most of the BIOS hacks are to open up the data pipes between the > GPU and the memory that have been disabled on the lower cost/spec cards. Yes thats the Bios upgrade I checked the overclocking sites the 6800 agp cards had 4 pipelines disabled out of a possible 16 that could be reinstated by flashing with a different bios (or by using Riva Tuner) giving a 25% improvement there is a lot of smoke about the 7800 cards being similar but little evidence. Derek >>> Not tried it I'm still playing UT (GOTY) with my ( modest now) setup its >>> hitting [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >rendering for everything else presuming you have a board with agp >http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-video-cards-money-UK,review-2379-5.html AGP is on the way out, I reckon, although one of my machines is still AGP, the more up-to-date one is PCIe x16. currently has a beast of a Nvidia 7900GTX graphics card, which was specifically chosen for one bit of software that is out of date, not being developed and doesn't play nicely with the next generation of graphics cards. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! Derek typed: >> The gamers are all getting into something called 'Second Life' at the >> moment, and I believe that has fierce graphics card requirements. I got into this a couple of weeks ago (no, I'm not by any description a gamer). It's brilliant. SignatureRich B Take out the obvious to email me. A life? Cool - where can I download one of those? |
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