I'm confused. There seems different types of dual battery isolators
available. Electronic, diode etc. Some only work with external sensed
alternators. What does all this mean? I have a TD5 Discovery 2 and a second
100ah deep cycle battery. I would like to hook this second battery up to the
alternator for charging when the vehicle is running and automatically switch
to the 20 watt solar panel when stationery. I have a solar panel controller.
Ideally, I would want the isolator to charge the main battery as a
priority before charging the auxillery and prevent drain between the two
batteries and then the solar charger to take over but only charge the
auxillery when the motor is not running. If this all makes sense, anybody
know a good place to start.
Steve W (in Aus)
EMB - 24 Apr 2008 03:34 GMT
> I'm confused. There seems different types of dual battery isolators
> available. Electronic, diode etc. Some only work with external sensed
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> auxillery when the motor is not running. If this all makes sense,
> anybody know a good place to start.
Best Option: Fit a 2nd alternator
Next best: Diode type charge splitter with externally sensed alternator
picking up charge voltage from battery +ve terminal.
Less good: Automatic changeover relay.
GbH - 24 Apr 2008 10:15 GMT
>> I'm confused. There seems different types of dual battery
>> isolators available. Electronic, diode etc. Some only work with
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> Less good: Automatic changeover relay.
Seems NZ is as good as any if not better than most!

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touchtone - 25 Apr 2008 10:59 GMT
NZ hmm then why is there such an influx to Oz..coz it is too bloody
cold.
Onto the matter at hand a constant duty rated solenoid is pretty easy
(what I use..I have a jumper cable as a spare just in case ;-) )
Cheers,
Greg
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GbH - 24 Apr 2008 10:06 GMT
> I'm confused. There seems different types of dual battery isolators
> available. Electronic, diode etc. Some only work with external sensed
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> anybody know a good place to start.
> Steve W (in Aus)
Well, I wouldn't start in Australia!

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Derek - 24 Apr 2008 10:25 GMT
> I'm confused. There seems different types of dual battery isolators
> available. Electronic, diode etc. Some only work with external sensed
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> know a good place to start.
> Steve W (in Aus)
YGM just a starting point
Derek
hugh - 24 Apr 2008 16:33 GMT
> I'm confused. There seems different types of dual battery isolators
>available. Electronic, diode etc. Some only work with external sensed
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>anybody know a good place to start.
>Steve W (in Aus)
Charging wise what you want is pretty standard arrangement from a
motorcaravan.
Alternator will quite happily charge both batteries simultaneously
A couple of voltage sensitive relays will do it, fed from output of
alternator
1st one to connect/disconnect aux battery to alternator for charging.
and one to switch aux battery to solar panel.
What do you use the aux battery for and when?

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Neil - 05 May 2008 03:14 GMT
>> I'm confused. There seems different types of dual battery isolators
>>available. Electronic, diode etc. Some only work with external sensed
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>What do you use the aux battery for and when?
I'll second the voltage sensitive relay method. Dead easy to fit!
Basically a small electronic unit connected to measure the voltage
across the primary battery. When that voltage reaches about 13.8v,
the unit switches a relay to connected so as to parallel the second
battery across the first by switching a +ve feed. The unit
disconnects the secondary battery when the primary battery voltage
falls below about 12.8v.
You don't really need a second one, if the solar panel already has a
controller, as secondary battery voltage is prevented from feeding
back into the solar already!
Neil
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Steve/Aus - 06 May 2008 04:11 GMT
> I'll second the voltage sensitive relay method. Dead easy to fit!
> Basically a small electronic unit connected to measure the voltage
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Thanks all for the replies.
I ended with a Northstar (usa) 100ah AGM battery that fits neatly in the
side bin in the back of the disco along with a 2000w inverter. That runs to
100ah circuit breaker and then a voltage sensing solenoid isolator mounted
under the bonnet (mounted along side the brake booster).
Looking in the back of the car, you would not know the system is installed
as it's all hidden in the side bin. Runs fridges etc. and, although not in
Adelaide YET - angle grinders for wheel clamps!
The battery is similar to this only it's 100ah
http://www.globalexcess.biz/images/NSB170F.jpg
The isolator is locally made in my city
http://www.redarc.com.au/smart-start.htm
Steve W (in Aus)
Pantelis Giamarellos - 08 May 2008 10:20 GMT
People Hi,
a good friend who owns a Discovery 3 TDV6 and has recently fitted a dual
battery and the respective charging system.
The dual battery charging system he fitted came from this source
www.traxide.com.at
Up to now he is extremely satisfied both with the performance of the kit
(batteries are charged as promised) and mainly by the quality of the kit and
the fact that EVERYTHING was included for its proper installation on his
LR3.
They also sell Anderson plugs at a very good price for batches of ten units
so this may be a good idea for a group purchase (hint.....)
Take care
Pantelis
Hope this helps
> > I'll second the voltage sensitive relay method. Dead easy to fit!
> > Basically a small electronic unit connected to measure the voltage
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> http://www.redarc.com.au/smart-start.htm
> Steve W (in Aus)
puffernutter - 08 May 2008 13:38 GMT
> People Hi,
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Very interesting site, but t works better as www.traxide.com.au
Now what I need is a way of charging my batteries when they are set up
as a 12v AND a 24v supply!
Cheers
Peter
Pantelis Giamarellos - 08 May 2008 18:08 GMT
Peter and all please excuse me for the typing mistake. Mea culpa !!!!
I think they also offer a 12 AND 24 v supply arrangement.
Take care
Pantelis
On 8 May, 10:20, "Pantelis Giamarellos" <pa...@otenet.gr> wrote:
> People Hi,
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Very interesting site, but t works better as www.traxide.com.au
Now what I need is a way of charging my batteries when they are set up
as a 12v AND a 24v supply!
Cheers
Peter
Roger - 25 Apr 2008 20:25 GMT
> I'm confused. There seems different types of dual battery isolators
> available. Electronic, diode etc. Some only work with external sensed
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> know a good place to start.
> Steve W (in Aus)
Visit a campervan store and see if they can supply a Zig Controller or the
like, they automatically control the charging of the vehicle battery and the
leisure battery - vehicle battery has to reach a high % charged status, then
will charge the leisure battery from the alternator.
Most can sense when 240V has been connected and will recharge the leisure
battery, usually they wont recharge the vehicle battery unless there is an
isolator relay for the alternator.
The newer models also have the solar input and will top up the batteries.
Its not new technology, I have a Zig unit on a Merc Campervan from the mid
1980s.