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EMB - 03 May 2008 07:18 GMT
Best UK news I've seen in ages.
Duracell Bunny - 03 May 2008 08:03 GMT
> Best UK news I've seen in ages.

I always liked him. Had a bit of character, and was on the other side of the
world too :)

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Austin Shackles - 03 May 2008 08:27 GMT
>> Best UK news I've seen in ages.
>
>I always liked him. Had a bit of character, and was on the other side of the
>world too :)

I reckon if you lived in London you'd be a bit more ambiguous.
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Duracell Bunny - 03 May 2008 09:32 GMT
>>> Best UK news I've seen in ages.
>> I always liked him. Had a bit of character, and was on the other side of the
>> world too :)
>
> I reckon if you lived in London you'd be a bit more ambiguous.

Been there, done that. Maggie T drove me to the antipodes in the very early 80's

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Tom Woods - 04 May 2008 11:59 GMT
>> Best UK news I've seen in ages.
>
> I always liked him. Had a bit of character, and was on the other side of
> the world too :)

The other guy seems to have more character! (speaking as someone who
lives nowhere near london and doesnt plan to visit and knows nowt about
the actual political implications!)
William Black - 04 May 2008 13:52 GMT
>>> Best UK news I've seen in ages.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> nowhere near london and doesnt plan to visit and knows nowt about the
> actual political implications!)

Boris,  as far as anyone can work out,  didn't actually want to win it.

He was put up because he's the highest profile Tory in the country who isn't
in the shadow cabinet.

The last thing a philandering MP with a really good second job as a
journalist and the editor of one of the two major political journals in the
country needs is a proper job where he's got to be at his desk 'nine to
five,  Monday to Friday'.

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Pete M - 04 May 2008 14:03 GMT
>>>> Best UK news I've seen in ages.
>>> I always liked him. Had a bit of character, and was on the other side of
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> country needs is a proper job where he's got to be at his desk 'nine to
> five,  Monday to Friday'.

Just shows you how unpopular Red Ken was if Boris could beat him without
wanting to.

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Steve Taylor - 04 May 2008 14:57 GMT
> The last thing a philandering MP
Why qualify the term MP with "philandering" - isn't it in the job
description ??

Steve
Dave Liquorice - 03 May 2008 10:29 GMT
> Best UK news I've seen in ages.

So who has replaced him? Hopefully not that blonde con twonk...

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John Williamson - 03 May 2008 12:24 GMT
>> Best UK news I've seen in ages.
>
> So who has replaced him? Hopefully not that blonde con twonk...

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, so I'll say nothing. ;-)

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.mother - 07 May 2008 17:16 GMT
>Best UK news I've seen in ages.

I've known him for over 25 years, some of which whilst living in
London.

Don't really care what anyone else thinks, but he always told it as he
saw it, and wasn't afraid to make unpopular decisions.

I always prefer people who are straight and honest - whether I agree
with them or not - at least you know where they really stand.
Ian Rawlings - 07 May 2008 18:02 GMT
> I've known him for over 25 years, some of which whilst living in
> London.

Blimey, look who it is ;-)  Wotcher.

> I always prefer people who are straight and honest - whether I agree
> with them or not - at least you know where they really stand.

Yeah but the last year saw a few nasty taints to his honesty with
contracts going to mates who didn't seem to be doing anything for the
money, so perhaps the power has corrupted him!

Personally I don't like the way the congestion charge was done either,
and the function creep he put into it, trying to claim it as an
environmental tool (which the LEZ is, and justifiably so).

We'll see how "bojo" gets on..  Thankfully from afar ;-)

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.mother - 08 May 2008 20:31 GMT
>Yeah but the last year saw a few nasty taints to his honesty with
>contracts going to mates who didn't seem to be doing anything for the
>money, so perhaps the power has corrupted him!

His view is along the lines of 'politics is a dorty business', but my
personal opinion is that he lost his grip on it all - just a little,
but enough.  I don't (personally) think he ever set out to be
dishonest - just a little creeping stupidity that comes, probably to
all of us, with age.

>We'll see how "bojo" gets on..  Thankfully from afar ;-)

I reckon it'll be good that the clown will now have to manage what is
surely destined to be a massive olympic fiasco - costing all of us
dearly.
Austin Shackles - 09 May 2008 07:33 GMT
>I reckon it'll be good that the clown will now have to manage what is
>surely destined to be a massive olympic fiasco - costing all of us
>dearly.

well... there's always a tendency to think this.  

Consider, though, the legacy of things in manchester following the
commonwealth games, e.g. the velodrome.  Cost a packet to build, but it's
been there a while now and lots of use and people go to watch the cycling
and so on.

The Olympics will be a fiasco if, for example, things are not built on time.
But prior to the event there are always stories about "it's not going to be
finished in time" and I think generally it is.  So I'll wait and see,
meself.
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Ian Rawlings - 09 May 2008 08:42 GMT
> The Olympics will be a fiasco if, for example, things are not built on time.
> But prior to the event there are always stories about "it's not going to be
> finished in time" and I think generally it is.  So I'll wait and see,
> meself.

I do keep seeing stories about sporting stadiums and swimming pools
being closed *because* of the olympics though, due to councils
allocating money to olympic-related activities and being unable to
afford maintenance on other sporting facilities as a result.  How much
of that goes on I don't know, or even how credible the reports are,
might just be journos over-egging the pudding to make a story.

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Ian Rawlings - 09 May 2008 08:40 GMT
yOn 2008-05-08,  mother <nospam@nominet.name> wrote:

> His view is along the lines of 'politics is a dorty business', but my
> personal opinion is that he lost his grip on it all - just a little,
> but enough.  I don't (personally) think he ever set out to be
> dishonest - just a little creeping stupidity that comes, probably to
> all of us, with age.

I don't think picking a fight with a newspaper helped either, it just
made sure that a team of people would be out there trying to find out
the bits where he was apparently being a naughty man.

> I reckon it'll be good that the clown will now have to manage what is
> surely destined to be a massive olympic fiasco - costing all of us
> dearly.

I doubt that he'll be heavily involved in managing the olympics,
there's a legion of officials doing the donkey work, but he'll surely
get the blame for everything that doesn't go perfectly and none of the
credit, as would Ken if he'd won.  The press isn't prepared to accept
anything other than 100% perfection in others while being generally
pretty shameful themselves.  Still, people do continue to buy the
papers so we deserve the resulting mess.

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Austin Shackles - 08 May 2008 07:27 GMT
'ello.  how's things with you?
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.mother - 08 May 2008 20:34 GMT
>'ello.  how's things with you?

Not bad.  Had enough of landies (well, clubs) for a while.  Didn't go
anywhere near Grumble since September until Tuesday* - then put new
Optima red top in, turned the key - started on second crank.  Kind of
remembered why I like it, the times we've had in it and the people
we've got pissed as a fart with.  So, clubs aside, decided to revisit
a.f.l and see if anything had changed - thankfully not much has :-)

* as a consequence of this, I ended up in orspital for a night with a
3rd degree burn...
Tom Woods - 09 May 2008 00:00 GMT
>> 'ello.  how's things with you?
>
> Not bad.  Had enough of landies (well, clubs) for a while.  Didn't go
> anywhere near Grumble since September until Tuesday* - then put new
> Optima red top in, turned the key - started on second crank.  Kind of
> remembered why I like it,

lucky bugger! got in mine today for the first time since around xmas.
battery is so flat that nothing does anything, and the minute i opened
the back door and climbed in my roof panel gave in to its water damage
(its bowed in the middle), and dropped off onto my head covering me in
manky fibreglass bits!

> * as a consequence of this, I ended up in orspital for a night with a
> 3rd degree burn...

grumble bites back?
Austin Shackles - 09 May 2008 07:34 GMT
>>> 'ello.  how's things with you?
>>
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>(its bowed in the middle), and dropped off onto my head covering me in
>manky fibreglass bits!

he did say he'd put a new battery in.  I tend to find that makes a
difference, too.
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EMB - 08 May 2008 10:32 GMT
>> Best UK news I've seen in ages.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Don't really care what anyone else thinks, but he always told it as he
> saw it, and wasn't afraid to make unpopular decisions.

Unfortunately the PTB here seem to think copying his decisions will be a
good idea, but they've omitted to notice the complete lack of sensible
public transport.  I'm hopeful that his (somewhat unexpected) demise
will make them pause for thought.

> I always prefer people who are straight and honest - whether I agree
> with them or not - at least you know where they really stand.

With that I totally agree.

PS - long time no post.  It's good to see you back.
Pantelis Giamarellos - 08 May 2008 10:55 GMT
Mother Hi,

if it takes the change of a London Mayor to have you back in the newsgroup I
wish they get elected twice a day !!!!!

Red Ken most probably was copying the stupid things Greek politicians have
implemented here in Athens.  The result was to have more smog, more cars in
the center of the town, a more heavy traffic related problem and less
effective public transportation in the city.

All those #@$s claiming things about CO2 emissions should take a closer look
on what airplanes, factories and wood burning stoves in Africa and Asia emit

Take care
Pantelis

> >> Best UK news I've seen in ages.
> >
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>
> PS - long time no post.  It's good to see you back.
.mother - 08 May 2008 21:20 GMT
>if it takes the change of a London Mayor to have you back in the newsgroup I
>wish they get elected twice a day !!!!!

Pantelis Hij!

Like I always say - always trust Greeks bearing kind comments ;-)

(Apols to the Bard - but I doubt he ever knew a Greek...)
Pantelis Giamarellos - 09 May 2008 18:30 GMT
Mother Hi,

on the other hand please remember the other saying going like "trust no-one"
(lol)

Take care
Pantelis

> >if it takes the change of a London Mayor to have you back in the newsgroup I
> >wish they get elected twice a day !!!!!
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>
> (Apols to the Bard - but I doubt he ever knew a Greek...)
.mother - 08 May 2008 21:20 GMT
>PS - long time no post.  It's good to see you back.

See my back?

You're not calling me...

... fat   -   are you?
SpamTrapSeeSig - 08 May 2008 11:15 GMT
>>Best UK news I've seen in ages.
>
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>I always prefer people who are straight and honest - whether I agree
>with them or not - at least you know where they really stand.

Eh up!

Is this a welcome return, a quick visit or a case of mistaken identity?

Regards,

Simonm.

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.mother - 08 May 2008 20:35 GMT
>Is this a welcome return

It's a 'return' - dunno how welcome it'll be, tho'!  :-)
Austin Shackles - 09 May 2008 07:35 GMT
>>Is this a welcome return
>
>It's a 'return' - dunno how welcome it'll be, tho'!  :-)

yer welcome any time from my POV mate.  

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Lee_D - 09 May 2008 12:46 GMT
> On or around Thu, 08 May 2008 20:35:28 +0100, .mother
> <nospam@nominet.name>
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>
> yer welcome any time from my POV mate.

Do we know this man? ;-)

Good to see you back,, maybe see you later :-)

Lee D
.mother - 09 May 2008 17:28 GMT
>Do we know this man? ;-)

Yes, he's a scruffy type, long hair, beard and has a purple landie.  
I thought everyone knew Austin...  ;-)

>Good to see you back,, maybe see you later :-)

We should arrive at around 7(ish).  Just stocked up on some fresh
Aberdeen Angus burgers, Cumberland sausages and fallingoverwater.
Austin Shackles - 10 May 2008 09:30 GMT
>>Do we know this man? ;-)
>
>Yes, he's a scruffy type, long hair, beard and has a purple landie.  
>I thought everyone knew Austin...  ;-)

some time ago I was accosted by the minions of the law, returning home late
one night.

"we've had a lot of trailer thefts recently", quoth they.

I was tempted to (but refrained) say "If I was going to nick trailers, I'd
use a slightly less conspicuous motor"

Currently, Father is driving that.  In theory, I've got the 110 wagon but
that's awaiting time and/or money to repair the chassis, neither of these
things is in good supply right now.

Or a bit more money and time and a complete rebuild.  I know a chap who has
a good galved chassis.
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