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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / May 2008

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101 rear hub oil seal collar

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AJH - 06 May 2008 11:46 GMT
The hub oil seal has dumped oil on my offside rear brake shoes whilst
the 101 has been parked up. My mate who, wants to borrow it, has
cleaned out the breather and is about to buy and fit a new oil seal.
We'll probably opt for synthetic rubber rather than the original
leather type but the collar that it runs on has a distinct groove.

Does it chisel off?

The local LR dealer wants 35 quid, is anywhere other than the club
likely to be cheaper?

In the past I've seen shim like bushes that can be glued onto a worn
collar to give a fresh surface for the seal lip to act on, are these
any good or still available?

AJH
EMB - 06 May 2008 11:59 GMT
> In the past I've seen shim like bushes that can be glued onto a worn
> collar to give a fresh surface for the seal lip to act on, are these
> any good or still available?

They are known as a 'Speedi-sleeve' and they work well.  Any half-decent
seal or bearing supplier should stock them.

http://www.acorn-ind.co.uk/products/speedi-sleeve.htm
AJH - 06 May 2008 12:05 GMT
>http://www.acorn-ind.co.uk/products/speedi-sleeve.htm

That's the stuff, thanks a lot, it shows that usenet can outperform
google when the search terms are a bit fuzzy ;-)

Andrew Heggie
Steve Taylor - 06 May 2008 13:31 GMT
> They are known as a 'Speedi-sleeve' and they work well.  Any half-decent
> seal or bearing supplier should stock them.
>
> http://www.acorn-ind.co.uk/products/speedi-sleeve.htm

They're great, but don't you need an applicator, to make sure they go on
right ?

The oil seals are about 15 quid from a bearing stockists.

Steve
Dougal - 06 May 2008 20:26 GMT
>> They are known as a 'Speedi-sleeve' and they work well.  Any
>> half-decent seal or bearing supplier should stock them.
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>
> Steve

They come complete with an installation tool.

One possible issue may be the width of the standard sleeve. One the RRC
size, for example, I couldn't get one narrow enough and had to shorten it.

However, the bearing spacer/seal journal for the 101 looks from the
parts book to be replaceable: split, remove and replace. Make sure that
you can get one first, of course.
Alex Stewart - 06 May 2008 20:57 GMT
>>> They are known as a 'Speedi-sleeve' and they work well.  Any
>>> half-decent seal or bearing supplier should stock them.
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> parts book to be replaceable: split, remove and replace. Make sure that
> you can get one first, of course.

The seal spacer is indeed replaceable, as it is on
the series LR (Providing you can get one) It is,
however, a bugger of a jobbie. The old one has to
be cut off, and the new one has to be heated up to
allow it to pass onto the stub axle. And if it
cools down too quickly, you're buggered.
Personally i'd fit a Speedi-sleeve.

Alex
Oily - 06 May 2008 21:32 GMT
> >>> They are known as a 'Speedi-sleeve' and they work well.  Any
> >>> half-decent seal or bearing supplier should stock them.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Alex

The name Stemco sprung to mind, so googled and there it is, www.stemco.com,
the ones I've always used.

I don't know the part number for the 101 oil seal track, and I can't see
them being the same as the Series, but you never know.  These are easy to
fit, just hit them with a sharp chisel with the blade in line with the axle
to remove and refit using the old one as a cushion between the new one and a
suitable  tube to knock on.  If they are the same as the series, I've still
got a few of those in stock.

Oily
Dougal - 06 May 2008 21:49 GMT
>>>>>They are known as a 'Speedi-sleeve' and they work well.  Any
>>>>>half-decent seal or bearing supplier should stock them.
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> Oily

They're shown as 101-specific parts but they will be standard GKN
Salisbury stuff. It's just possible that they turned up on the 110 later.

Front and rear axle spacers/seal tracks are different.
Front - 576294,   rear - 593808.
Oily - 07 May 2008 09:32 GMT
"Dougal"   wrote.............

> They're shown as 101-specific parts but they will be standard GKN
> Salisbury stuff. It's just possible that they turned up on the 110 later.
>
> Front and rear axle spacers/seal tracks are different.
> Front - 576294,   rear - 593808.

Cheers for that, part nos are always handy, though I've never had call to do
much work on 101s apart from rebuild a diff on one, fit an exhaust on
another and change an engine or two.
I don't recall anything later than a Series up to 1980 (when they changed
the bearings etc.) which was fitted with replacable oil seal tracks.

Martin
 
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