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Car Forum / Land Rover Cars / May 2008Climate control/air con not working
Just been out in the Disco (TD5 Y reg) and the air con aint cold at all. I can see the problem just need to know where to look to solve it. When the engine is running the compressor outer turns ok (the bit with the belt over the top of it it) but the inner bit stays still (you can turn inner bit ny hand when engine is off) I remember reading in one of the LR mags that this inner bit is a magnetic clutch of sorts which pulls in when the A/C is turned on thus turning the pump. All fuses look ok so far, any obvious things to check??. Dom > Just been out in the Disco (TD5 Y reg) and the air con aint cold at all. I > can see the problem just need to know where to look to solve it. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dom Its probably the same problem I've got in my P38...there's a fix whereby you remove the inner bit and there's a shim behind it which you simply remove, then replace the inner bit....but I can't seem to remove that bit as when I try to undo the nut, the whole thing just turns.. Paul > All fuses look ok so far, any obvious things to check??. It's not hot enough for the compressor to be required to chill the incoming air? Turn the temperature settings right down to LO and that will force the compressor on and the air to be chilled.  SignatureCheers Dave. >> All fuses look ok so far, any obvious things to check??. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Turn the temperature settings right down to LO and that will force the > compressor on and the air to be chilled. That's right - the clutch will only pull in in response to the thermostat which regularly makes/breaks even in hot weather. Worth checking that first. > Just been out in the Disco (TD5 Y reg) and the air con aint cold at all. I > can see the problem just need to know where to look to solve it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > All fuses look ok so far, any obvious things to check??. Is there any gas in the system? That'd be my first port of call. There are two pressure switches that if there's no gas, the compressor won't kick in. Kwik Fit, etc, do AC recharging now, but if you look for your local "man in a van" type operation, they should be able to sort it for you. Shouldn't be expensive if it's just gas as a 2001 Disco will use R134a which is normally around £25-40 for a vac, dye and re-gas. SignaturePete M - OMF#9 Range Rover V8 Turbo Range Rover 4.6 HSE "Professional Petrolhead" >> Just been out in the Disco (TD5 Y reg) and the air con aint cold at >> all. I can see the problem just need to know where to look to solve it. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > are two pressure switches that if there's no gas, the compressor won't > kick in. I'll second that diagnosis. >> Is there any gas in the system? That'd be my first port of call. > > I'll second that diagnosis. I'd still force the system into full cooling with the temperature controls to check before calling a man out or taking it to an aircon place. It may well be out of gas, mine is but to be honest last year there was only about two or three days when it would have been nice to have it working. Interesting that a vacuum, regas with dye should be less than £50. LR Dealers charge £100... I'll have to check what they will provide for that £100, confidence is high that the reason there is no gas in mine is 'cause one of the pipes has a hole in it. I brought one of the cans to top up your system with a pressure gauge, all was going well the pressure was rising bits where getting cold then the pressure dropped and refused to rise much any more and soon fell back and the pipe waork soon warmed back up. Feeling round the pipes there was one *very* cold spot just near where it goes through a retaining clip covered in corrosion... Now if the LR dealer will get it working and replace the pipe for £100, that is a better deal. SignatureCheers Dave. > Interesting that a vacuum, regas with dye should be less than £50. LR > Dealers charge £100... I'll have to check what they will provide for that > £100 Any reputable business regassing the system will replace the receiver/dryer when they do the job. That may well account for the price difference. >> Interesting that a vacuum, regas with dye should be less than £50. LR >> Dealers charge £100... I'll have to check what they will provide for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > receiver/dryer when they do the job. That may well account for the > price difference. Possibly but I'd be more inclined to believe Mr Brownlee's experience and if it gets taken to a "reputable business" they'll do that anyway... Having said that I only needed the aircon two or three days last year today has been a little warm but OK with the window open... B-) SignatureCheers Dave. >>> Interesting that a vacuum, regas with dye should be less than £50. LR >>> Dealers charge £100... I'll have to check what they will provide for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Having said that I only needed the aircon two or three days last year >today has been a little warm but OK with the window open... B-) That's my take. If I lived somewhere with a really warm climate, I'd probably fit it, especially to work vehicles. in this country, I'd only use it about 4 times a year. SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>>> Interesting that a vacuum, regas with dye should be less than £50. LR >>>> Dealers charge £100... I'll have to check what they will provide for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > probably fit it, especially to work vehicles. in this country, I'd only use > it about 4 times a year. I've just driven a Toyota MR2 120 miles with the roof down. I now resemble a Frazzle. Aircon is gods own gift and should be used whenever the temperature gets above 21.5°C. SignaturePete M - OMF#9 Range Rover V8 Turbo Range Rover 4.6 HSE "Professional Petrolhead" > I've just driven a Toyota MR2 120 miles with the roof down. I now > resemble a Frazzle. Aircon is gods own gift and should be used whenever > the temperature gets above 21.5°C. It's also particularly useful when getting into the vehicle on a sunny day when it's hot enough to melt rock inside, the "climate control" in my old audi just whacks on the cold air until the earth cools and life can begin to exist on the surface. I've just come back from an off-roading holiday in Wales and could have done with air con in the pinz, sitting on top of the engine in a truck that's spent all day in low range can be hot sometimes! SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! http://youtube.com/user/tarcus69 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarcus/sets/ >> I've just driven a Toyota MR2 120 miles with the roof down. I now >> resemble a Frazzle. Aircon is gods own gift and should be used whenever [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > have done with air con in the pinz, sitting on top of the engine in a > truck that's spent all day in low range can be hot sometimes! That I don't miss! Looking forward to a 60mph trip in a air con chilled mobile sofa tugging the caravan :-) Lee D > That I don't miss! > > Looking forward to a 60mph trip in a air con chilled mobile sofa > tugging the caravan :-) Me too mate. > Looking forward to a 60mph trip in a air con chilled mobile sofa tugging the > caravan :-) You big softie! (says the IT consultant to the policeman) It took me 4 hours to get to Wales at about 45MPH in the pinz on a seat covered in something akin to a camping mat, then at the end I slept in the back of it for three nights, on a camping mat.. My arse now has a square bit which makes leaning forwards hard. Why the hell do sheep just bleat? At 4:30AM I was tempted to go out there and give them something to bloody well bleat about! SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! http://youtube.com/user/tarcus69 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarcus/sets/ > Why the hell do sheep just bleat? At 4:30AM I was tempted to go out > there and give them something to bloody well bleat about! To remind them which end to eat with? SignatureTciao for Now! John. >> I've just driven a Toyota MR2 120 miles with the roof down. I now >> resemble a Frazzle. Aircon is gods own gift and should be used whenever [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >have done with air con in the pinz, sitting on top of the engine in a >truck that's spent all day in low range can be hot sometimes! yer didn't say. which bit? SignatureAustin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms... ------------------------------------------------\ >> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them. a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too! >>I've just come back from an off-roading holiday in Wales and could >>have done with air con in the pinz, sitting on top of the engine in a >>truck that's spent all day in low range can be hot sometimes! > > yer didn't say. which bit? Rhayader area, some pics on my flickr page below, and also some videos will be going into the lane video database (no I've not forgotten about that, a new update soon-ish) adding about 6 hours of video of the lanes we did will be available soon. We'll also be going on another trip to North Wales, Oswestry area I think, later in the year (if all goes to plan). The trip was a FoDRoW do (my local lot), however as it turns out, about three quarters of the people on it weren't from Dorset at all, but we'd insisted they join the Dorset RoW group as the trip entry fee, so most of the people on it turned out to be from Sussex or London-ish area. The chap organising it (Julian Martin) did an excellent job, we had three groups of four trucks separated by about 15-30 minutes, with each group leader using a pre-prepared route that Julian had spent many hours preparing in Memory Map. He'd contacted various land owners and got permission to travel across some land that normally access wasn't available for, and found a few byways that were labelled as bridleways. If the later trip goes as well then it'll be great, I've done some of those lanes and they were very good but I reckon the weekend just gone was better. If you fancy a 4-day camping and off-roading holiday (2 days off-roading) in Oswestry area then I'll see what can be arranged, this one was an invites only job due to trying to keep numbers down, although I suppose that if numbers got too bad then we could split the groups out over two weekends. SignatureBlast off and strike the evil Bydo empire! http://youtube.com/user/tarcus69 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarcus/sets/ Our LR dealer charges you more than that...and then drops it off at the local A/C place!!! I cirumvented that little rip off when I spotted them - only £60 from the actual source :rolleyes: SignatureNeil I'll third it :) No gas = no operation. Had that on the D1 and my previous L322. SignatureNeil > I'll third it :) No gas = no operation. Had that on the D1 and my previous > L322. Me too, but instead of just getting a re-gassed I'd ask them to check for leaks first - no point filling it up if the damn thing just pisses it all out again. You can have a small enough leak so that once the gas is re-charged, it will work for a while, and seems 'fixed', but later on it stops again. Had that on my Disco, despite asking them to check for leaks before charging - I only found out about 1 month later that they hadn't bothered after it stopped working again! They then diagnosed a leak, I wasn't a happy bunny. Matt >> I'll third it :) No gas = no operation. Had that on the D1 and my >> previous L322. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > hadn't bothered after it stopped working again! They then diagnosed a > leak, I wasn't a happy bunny. That's why I said "Vac, *dye* and regas". The dye's not in there just to make it pretty, y'know... :-p SignaturePete M - OMF#9 Range Rover V8 Turbo Range Rover 4.6 HSE "Professional Petrolhead" > That's why I said "Vac, *dye* and regas". > > The dye's not in there just to make it pretty, y'know... :-p Ah, I'm not up on all these fancy technical terms! :-) Matt The place I go to charge £20 for a full system check, *IF* it needs re-gassing or repairing they will tell you, and the £20 is refunded when you go for the work. Seems ideal to me :) SignatureNeil > The place I go to charge £20 for a full system check, *IF* it needs > re-gassing or repairing they will tell you, and the £20 is refunded when > you > go for the work. Seems ideal to me :) COOL! ;-) > Just been out in the Disco (TD5 Y reg) and the air con aint cold at all. I > can see the problem just need to know where to look to solve it. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > All fuses look ok so far, any obvious things to check??. One more thing to check, if it has an outside temperature gauge, is it reading accurately? My P38 sometimes displays 0°C and the little snowflake symbol on the HVAC unit - if the car thinks it's freezing out it won't switch on the AC. Switching the ignition on and off a couple of times normally brings it back to life - ice cold, refreshing, lovely chilled life... SignaturePete M - OMF#9 Range Rover V8 Turbo Range Rover 4.6 HSE "Professional Petrolhead" Hokay i have just: Rechecked all fuses, all ok and not blown. Turned Climate control on and set it to 'LO', checked whirly pulley thing on A/C pump and it still not going round. Temp outside is round about 23C at the mo, in the car its 28C, so i'm guessing the A/C SHOULD kick in. I've seen mention of a thermostat (post by jg). Where is this mounted?. There is a small grill by the head light level switch in the car which is called 'cabin temp sensor' in Haynes book. As for the possibility of having no gas. I took the 'L' plastic cap off and there was a definate hiss and an odd smell. Could this valve be leaking??. I've found a friendly air con man, will pop in and see him tomorrow. Dom > Hokay i have just: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Dom Check the continuity of the coil for the clutch (integral with the compessor pulley) and that it's receiving 'juice'. "Dougal" <Dougal@hiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message news:WoudnfaJSJ9-rL7VnZ2dnUVZ8h-> > Check the continuity of the coil for the clutch (integral with the > compessor pulley) and that it's receiving 'juice'. Now why didn't i think of that........ Just checked and theres bugger all power to the clutch. So its time for a service/regas me thinks!. Cheers for all your help chaps!!. Dom >> Just been out in the Disco (TD5 Y reg) and the air con aint cold at >> all. I can see the problem just need to know where to look to solve [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > couple of times normally brings it back to life - ice cold, > refreshing, lovely chilled life... Either the sensor or the ecu.
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