What sort of voltages should i expect across the terminals on a battery
when it is either fully charged or not?
Battery is a 110Ah leisure battery that was last charged a month or so
ago. No load on it.
I finally got round to rigging up the solar panel on the 101 properly.
It is charging the battery thru a cheap maplins regulator (which has 2
LED's on - charging and battery full).
Charging light is currently on and ive just watched a voltmeter on the
battery move from 12.59 to 12.66 over 5 mins - so its presumably doing
something. What should it be when it is 'full'?
Also - is there any way of measuring how much charge im getting off my
panel? (without spending mucho money on a proper fancy charge
controller!) I have tried putting my multimeter on amps and putting it
in line between the regulator and battery but it reads 0 and makes the
charging LED go out (so i assume it confuses the regulator).
.mother - 08 May 2008 21:04 GMT
>What sort of voltages should i expect across the terminals on a battery
>when it is either fully charged or not?
Haven't time to reply properly - but this may help:
http://www.smartgauge.co.uk/technical1.html
Chap on one of my 'slightly more regular' groups who really knows his
stuph - bit like Stephen Hull (I hope I've remembered that right), the
paint guru here.
Tom Woods - 08 May 2008 23:18 GMT
>> What sort of voltages should i expect across the terminals on a battery
>> when it is either fully charged or not?
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> stuph - bit like Stephen Hull (I hope I've remembered that right), the
> paint guru here.
Thanks Martyn, some interesting reading on there. I do like the system
that smartbank uses of having a seperate display on an rj11 cable! Ive
run cat5 all over the ambi :)
I ran about 10 extra 12v wires between my dash and batteries and they
are now getting used incredibly quickly! (just today, 2 for feeds from
both batteries, 4 for 2 seperate solar panels, then 2 for voltmeter
displays)
Ive found this thing too:
http://www.blueskyenergyinc.com/sb2000e.htm
which seems quite neat (and doesnt cost too much!)
Oily - 08 May 2008 22:25 GMT
> What sort of voltages should i expect across the terminals on a battery
> when it is either fully charged or not?
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> in line between the regulator and battery but it reads 0 and makes the
> charging LED go out (so i assume it confuses the regulator).
You didn't forget to put the multimeter leads in the appropriate sockets
when you switched over to amps did you? :-) Easily done, I usually forget
for a while until it dawns.
Martin
Tom Woods - 08 May 2008 23:20 GMT
> You didn't forget to put the multimeter leads in the appropriate sockets
> when you switched over to amps did you? :-) Easily done, I usually forget
> for a while until it dawns.
erm.. maybe i did forget to swap the lead over...
I'll try again tommorrow! Too dark now and the main battery (has the
internl lights on at the mo) doesnt even have enough beans in it to turn
on the mini flurescent in the back.
Tom Woods - 09 May 2008 11:59 GMT
>> You didn't forget to put the multimeter leads in the appropriate sockets
>> when you switched over to amps did you? :-) Easily done, I usually
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> internl lights on at the mo) doesnt even have enough beans in it to turn
> on the mini flurescent in the back.
With the leads actually swapped it gives a reading! (0.7A on an overcast
day which aint too shabby). Smoke comes out of the multimeter at the
same time but it still works fine so it must be non-magic smoke!
Tom Woods - 09 May 2008 12:11 GMT
> With the leads actually swapped it gives a reading! (0.7A on an overcast
> day which aint too shabby). Smoke comes out of the multimeter at the
> same time but it still works fine so it must be non-magic smoke!
OK, rated current output of the panel is 2.3A (I assume this is in
proper sun not weak UK sun). Is 0.7 typical for over here?
If i was to buy another panel, can i run them in parallel through a
single regulator/charge controller or not?
Steve Taylor - 09 May 2008 14:52 GMT
> OK, rated current output of the panel is 2.3A (I assume this is in
> proper sun not weak UK sun). Is 0.7 typical for over here?
2.3A should be under UK full sun, normal to the panel AND probably not
too hot at the panel itself, they'll do anything to make their numbers
look good.
Steve
Steve Taylor - 08 May 2008 23:07 GMT
> Also - is there any way of measuring how much charge im getting off my
> panel? (without spending mucho money on a proper fancy charge
> controller!)
Simply, no. You need to integrate the charging current WRT time. A bit
of hacking with one of these:
http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/DS2788.pdf
...and you can do it with a 1 wire to USB adapter.
Steve
Steve
Tom Woods - 08 May 2008 23:24 GMT
>> Also - is there any way of measuring how much charge im getting off my
>> panel? (without spending mucho money on a proper fancy charge
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> http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/DS2788.pdf
> ....and you can do it with a 1 wire to USB adapter.
That looks good, but *I* have bugger all chance of assembling it into a
working box! ;)
That bluesky box (http://www.blueskyenergyinc.com/sb2000e.htm) is ~£50
and claims to do it.
> Steve
>
> Steve
echo!