My 2.25L Petrol SIII fires up then dies immediately. Air in the fuel
lines?
I left it off the road for the winter, but when I noticed it was
leaking petrol from the tank I drained the tank. Now trying to get it
running again for summer, so I put in some petrol. Other posts suggest
it is likely to be air in the lines. Is there an easy DIY trick to
priming the pump? Answers in basic terms, please I'm no mechanic!
John
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Tom Woods - 09 May 2008 12:14 GMT
> My 2.25L Petrol SIII fires up then dies immediately. Air in the fuel
> lines?
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> it is likely to be air in the lines. Is there an easy DIY trick to
> priming the pump? Answers in basic terms, please I'm no mechanic!
Have you hand primed it using the handle on the lift pump? (assuming it
has one - my 2.25 petrol did!)
crack off the incoming fuel line off the carb and hand prime it until
fuel comes out of that, then reconnect and try again.
Having clear fuel lines makes fuel problem diagnosis much easier!
ChelseaTractor - 09 May 2008 14:27 GMT
> Have you hand primed it using the handle on the lift pump? (assuming it
> has one - my 2.25 petrol did!)
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>
> Having clear fuel lines makes fuel problem diagnosis much easier!
Sounds like a good idea. Um.. how do I find the handle on the lift
pump?
Dougal - 09 May 2008 14:34 GMT
>>Have you hand primed it using the handle on the lift pump? (assuming it
>>has one - my 2.25 petrol did!)
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> Sounds like a good idea. Um.. how do I find the handle on the lift
> pump?
Find the fuel pump - right hand side (looking forwards from driver's
seat) of engine. The handle's on the pump body. Once you start pumping
fuel you'll feel the resistance.
If it never appears to pump at all i.e. a very short stroke - turn the
engine one revolution by hand and try again.
Tom Woods - 09 May 2008 18:47 GMT
>>> Have you hand primed it using the handle on the lift pump? (assuming it
>>> has one - my 2.25 petrol did!)
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> If it never appears to pump at all i.e. a very short stroke - turn the
> engine one revolution by hand and try again.
handle may be on top. kinda like a little sprung lever
additional to Dougals note, one you have it in the right place, you
should be able to feel if it is pumping fuel too. It will be easy (no
fuel), then go harder and make your fingers ache, then go easy again
once the fuel is past it and the system fully primed.
Mark Solesbury - 09 May 2008 12:14 GMT
> My 2.25L Petrol SIII fires up then dies immediately. Air in the fuel
> lines?
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Dont know if this helps, but I had this on my range rover twice...
First time it was me putting the fuel filter on the wrong way round.
Second time coil was dead.
Air in the lines also sounds plausible - God ive been watching
Mythbusters to much!

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Ian Rawlings - 09 May 2008 12:31 GMT
> I left it off the road for the winter, but when I noticed it was
> leaking petrol from the tank I drained the tank. Now trying to get it
> running again for summer, so I put in some petrol. Other posts suggest
> it is likely to be air in the lines. Is there an easy DIY trick to
> priming the pump? Answers in basic terms, please I'm no mechanic!
Just to add to what others have said, I've heard in the past that
running the truck out of fuel can stir up crud in the tank due to the
fuel washing around on the bottom so you can end up with the pipes
being blocked, I've not seen that myself though.

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Paul - xxx - 09 May 2008 14:26 GMT
> My 2.25L Petrol SIII fires up then dies immediately. Air in the fuel
> lines?
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> it is likely to be air in the lines. Is there an easy DIY trick to
> priming the pump? Answers in basic terms, please I'm no mechanic!
When we replaced the old fuel tank on our S3 (the local 'professional'
did it ... but didn't clean the new tank out ... hence fuel pickup in
tank encrusted with crud. Easy fix was to undo top of tank, lift fuel
pickup out, clean, replace, job's a good 'un.
'course, what everyone else has already said still applies ... ;)

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Derek - 09 May 2008 22:45 GMT
> My 2.25L Petrol SIII fires up then dies immediately. Air in the fuel
> lines?
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> 1980 Land Rover Series 111 109 Station Wagon + Dormobile mod cons
pull the fuel pipe off the carb and turnover if you have fuel healthily
squirting then probably not the pump , the old Solex were prone to a
sticking needle valve which prevents the float chamber filling usually just
enough fuel would leak past to let the engine fire before the carb
drained -in the bad old days deposits of triethyl lead also used to block
the carbs I have before now fed neat fuel into the carb throat to keep it
running until fuel pressure built up enough to clear the blockage - not
recommend as a backfire is not fun when you are squirting fuel.entertaining
but not fun
Derek.
Lee_D - 12 May 2008 16:19 GMT
>> My 2.25L Petrol SIII fires up then dies immediately. Air in the fuel
>> lines?
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> fuel.entertaining but not fun
> Derek.
Ah, another "eyebrow" veteran:-)
Lee D
Derek - 12 May 2008 21:08 GMT
Lee D pointed out
> Ah, another "eyebrow" veteran:-)
and the hairs on the back off my hands but thats another tale entirely. :-)
Derek