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Will Wilkinson - 16 May 2008 00:03 GMT
Can anyone recommend a stainless steel exhaust for a 110 300tdi that
won't break the bank? Mine's (original mild steel) developed a couple of
holes and I thought I'd replace with stainless to save doing the job
more than once :-) I'll dispense with the cat at the same time.

Cheers

Will
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Will Wilkinson - 16 May 2008 00:10 GMT
>Can anyone recommend a stainless steel exhaust for a 110 300tdi that
>won't break the bank? Mine's (original mild steel) developed a couple
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>
>Will
Oops - subject should say 300tdi - finger trouble.

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William Tasso - 16 May 2008 00:22 GMT
> ...
> I thought I'd replace with stainless to save doing the job more than  
> once :-)

Rumour is: the mild steel variety become perforated around the same time  
as they get clogged up with shite.

Replacing the breathing pipes periodically may be a good thing.

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Will Wilkinson - 16 May 2008 00:34 GMT
>> ...
>> I thought I'd replace with stainless to save doing the job more than
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>
>Replacing the breathing pipes periodically may be a good thing.

Hmm, hadn't really thought about that, good point, so another thing to
consider - although she seems to have been breathing perfectly well so
far.

Remembered to edit the subject this time as well.
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Pet - www.GymRatZ.co.uk - 16 May 2008 09:31 GMT
>> Replacing the breathing pipes periodically may be a good thing.
>>> Hmm, hadn't really thought about that, good point, so another thing to
> consider - although she seems to have been breathing perfectly well so far.

I have always been put off SS exhausts since a mate of mine had a new RS Turbo
Escort back in.... '81 IIRC
They always cracked ! I think he got through 3 in as many years before going
back to a regular one at a fraction of the price.

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Oily - 16 May 2008 11:20 GMT
> >> Replacing the breathing pipes periodically may be a good thing.
> >>> Hmm, hadn't really thought about that, good point, so another thing to
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> They always cracked ! I think he got through 3 in as many years before going
> back to a regular one at a fraction of the price.

Exactly the same with a friends 90 V8.  Although they replaced them under
warranty he got fed up with changing them and went back to a standard
system. The baffles used to keep coming loose in the centre silencer box and
rattling.

Martin
Paul - xxx - 16 May 2008 14:48 GMT
> > > Replacing the breathing pipes periodically may be a good thing.
> > > > Hmm, hadn't really thought about that, good point, so another
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> got through 3 in as many years before going back to a regular one at
> a fraction of the price.

I didn't know that.  We looked at them, from afar, but tbh we do a lot
of off-road stuff and I've gone through about three exhausts, rear [1]
and middle [2] sections ... which would be a tad expensive with an SS
one.

[1] The rear seems to bend behind the silencer box (not that it makes
much difference sound wise.) and/or fill up with mud/slurry/shite which
solidifies and is a b'stard to clean out and/or get it's rear end
closed up and folded over, which isn't oo much trouble as it usually
falls off anyway .. ;)

[2] The middle seems to be affected mostly when the rear gets folded
back on itself, and is squashed or similarly creased so it's nigh on
impossible for Kwik-Fit [3] to fit anything.

[3] Cheapest round here for exhausts .. about £30 IIRC

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Austin Shackles - 17 May 2008 10:04 GMT
>>> ...
>>> I thought I'd replace with stainless to save doing the job more than
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>Remembered to edit the subject this time as well.

Definitely worth removing the cat.  did that on a 300 TDi disco and it went
much better :-)

personally, I've not got a problem with ordinary MS ones - they last a few
years, generally, and there's usually one spot that fails and the life can
be extended quite a bit with one fix.  very cheap stainless ain't worth it,
and good ones are expensive - but then again, I'm quite likely not to keep
the vehicle all that long, myself - if you intend keeping it forever it's
more likely that you'll reap the benefit of the long-lived exhaust.
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Nige - 17 May 2008 10:06 GMT
>>>> ...
>>>> I thought I'd replace with stainless to save doing the job more
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> - if you intend keeping it forever it's more likely that you'll reap
> the benefit of the long-lived exhaust.

I ripped the cat out on my old Disco & it made a big difference.

I never bother with stainless, too expensive & normal MS lasts long enough.

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SpamTrapSeeSig - 17 May 2008 10:53 GMT
>I ripped the cat out on my old Disco & it made a big difference.
>
>I never bother with stainless, too expensive & normal MS lasts long enough.

I stand to be corrected, but I've always understood that where it
matters, i.e. at the welds, stainless isn't - or at least it isn't' as
much.

I believe the welding current (spot welding or arc/mig/tig) causes the
chromium to migrate away, varying the rust-resistance properties unless
it's welded very carefully. That's certainly been my experience :-(
although DIY stainless welding can't be expected to be as good as mass
production. I did have a repair done a while back to the Boxer's exhaust
system by a chap who normally works on food-grade bulk tanks, and the
quality was excellent.

T'other problem is that the difference in electrode potential
accelerates corrosion in the 'weaker' metal, in this case any mild steel
in contact with the stainless.

So, when you put that together with increased brittleness, stainless
exhausts aren't necessarily all they're cracked-up to be!

Regards,

Simonm.

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Will Wilkinson - 20 May 2008 09:18 GMT
>>I ripped the cat out on my old Disco & it made a big difference.
>>
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>
>Simonm.

Cheers for all the replies - given the potential problems with SS it
looks like I'll replace with another MS one - just without the cat.

Regards

Will
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